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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Kier Starmer]

The same applies to accountancy as you impart information not commonly known by the public. The fact is he also lied to Parliament as he said he was a solicitor in 2014 before Parliament. Also, Rayner was caught lying too as she said she had 10 years of experience as a carer but in fact, had 3, then said 5, and then magically 17 when in actuality it was 3.

There is a rumor that Charles has demanded an audience with Starmer tomorrow to say the full scope of the lies of his cabinet. I have heard it a few times this weekend but don't know the origin as Google buries a ton of stuff relating to Starmer and negative press.

I think this is going to be Starmer's week of hell because everyone including international powers is turning on Labour.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

So, these two stupid old fucks are definitely dead, right?

The Taliban have arrested a British couple in their 70s for “teaching mothers parenting with children”.

Peter Reynolds, 79, and his wife, Barbie, 75, were detained when returning to their home in Bamiyan province on 1 February.

The couple have been running projects in schools in Afghanistan for 18 years and decided to stay in the country after the Taliban seized power in 2021. One of the projects involved training mothers and children in Bamiyan, one of the largest cities in central Afghanistan.

There is a ban on women working and on female education beyond primary school, but this project had apparently been approved by the Bamiyan local authority.

The couple were arrested alongside an American-Chinese friend, Faye Hall, who had rented a plane to travel with them, and a translator from the couple’s Rebuild training business.

An anonymous Rebuild employee told the PA news agency the group was informed that their flight “did not coordinate with the local government”.

For the first three days after their arrest, the couple kept in touch with their children via text message, explaining they were being held by the interior ministry and stating they were fine.

Then the texts stopped. Their children have not been in contact with them since.

The Reynolds’s home in Nayak has since been raided and their employees have been interrogated about whether the couple were engaging in religious proselytising, which all of them denied.

“This is really bad,” their daughter, Sarah Entwistle, from Daventry, Northamptonshire, told the Sunday Times. “My mother is 75 and my father almost 80 and [he] needs his heart medication after a mini-stroke.

“They were just trying to help the country they loved. The idea they are being held because they were teaching mothers with children is outrageous.”

With her three brothers, she has written an open letter to the Taliban leadership, begging for her parents’ release.

The couple met at the University of Bath and married in Kabul in 1970 after falling in love with Afghanistan. Barbie went on to become the first woman to receive a certificate of appreciation from the Taliban.

In the letter, Entwistle and her brothers pleaded with the Taliban to set their parents free so that they can continue their good work in schools and pointed out they have been given dual citizenship.

“We do not understand the reasons behind their arrest,” they wrote. “Our parents have consistently expressed their commitment to Afghanistan, stating that they would rather sacrifice their lives than become part of ransom negotiations or be traded.”

The anonymous employee, who said Rebuild workers were “in danger” and living in hiding, described the couple as “the most honourable people I have ever met in my life”.

They told PA they feared for Peter’s condition. “It seems that if Peter and Barbie are not released soon, Peter may lose his life because he needs medication, and the Taliban are not allowing him it,” they added.

As well as their project in Bamiyan, the couple had been running projects in five schools in Kabul. “The Taliban leaders were so impressed and inspired by the programmes Mum and Dad were offering, they said they would like them set up in every province of Afghanistan,” Entwistle said, adding that her parents had done nothing without permission.

“They were meticulous about keeping by the rules even as they kept changing,” she said.

The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office has been contacted for comment.

There's something weird about this story, honestly. And I feel like there's way more going on here than we're being told.

Why on earth would a pair of nice, middle class boomers from Northamptonshire who arguably have options want anything to do with a sandy, third world shithole run by a barbaric, oppressive Islamic dictatorship, that neither of them seem to have any ethnic connection to?

There are refugee Afghan women in this country who they could teach and who would probably appreciate getting some kind of help?

Why would this man and his wife want to stay in a place that denies the rights of women, sells young girls off like so much gold bullion and practices stuff like sex slaver... Oh wait, I think I might've found my answer.

I'm getting the word 'nonce'.

This Dr. Harold Shipman looking motherfucker convinced his nice liberal wife to put on the hijab and do the good work, while he goes off the prey on the local bacha bazi.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

He should have picked that up as a trainee

I think the consistent thing with this cabinet is little to none of them picked up anything from their prior roles aside from the best way to crawl up someone's colon.

 

[FedPostalService]

The same applies to accountancy as you impart information not commonly known by the public. The fact is he also lied to Parliament as he said he was a solicitor in 2014 before Parliament. Also, Rayner was caught lying too as she said she had 10 years of experience as a carer but in fact, had 3, then said 5, and then magically 17 when in actuality it was 3.

There is a rumor that Charles has demanded an audience with Starmer tomorrow to say the full scope of the lies of his cabinet. I have heard it a few times this weekend but don't know the origin as Google buries a ton of stuff relating to Starmer and negative press.

I think this is going to be Starmer's week of hell because everyone including international powers is turning on Labour.

Again, most time I have to apply for a new job I have to provide five to seven years of employment history that is checked by the firm to make sure I wasn’t lying. Why aren’t simple checks like this in place for people wanting to be politicians? Why the hell aren’t they carried out before offering them cabinet positions?

 

[Kier Starmer]

Exactly, these are parliamentary offenses because they fall under misleading the house and when Boris did something far less offensive. It was blue murder and harped on about constantly by the media but almost all your entire cabinet has committed a form of fraud.

To be honest, we knew after Blair went Labour was going to be that faction crawling with communists. The level of skill is shocking though, they had 14 fucking years to collect power. An entire generation in theory and this is who they have and no reserves out of 404 seats. The conservatives lost their brain trust bar Hunt, who honestly should have led because his party respected him.

It just feels like a time bomb right now but Starmer knows if Reeves goes then he is in trouble. The crime rate is insane currently, I am lucky I live in the boonies but the crime rates in sleepy towns nearby have shot up. This is not sustainable.

 

[pot of sneed]

Why aren’t simple checks like this in place for people wanting to be politicians?

Because they don't let ordinary people in and instead choose toadies and yes men who all want in at the trough?

 

[biggie bundu]

Posted this morning on the official Labour party twitter page

Why is it that the UK specifically is going all in on Ukraine? Has Starmer actually gone completely mental? Why are we hell-bent on perpetual war in Ukraine, no matter the consequences?

 

[biggie bundu]

Other EU countries are still delusional about the Ukraine situation, but we are on another level completely.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Support for Ukraine is a pretty popular position. Labour think they can use it to ride out all their scandals.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

The punchy MP Mike Amesbury got sentenced to 10 weeks in prison just now.

Live link, no article yet

 

[Crispy Jakes]

I'm on my break!

 

[Smyrna]

That will mean a by-election. Either he resigns willingly now or there will be a recall petition which should easily pass the threshold of signatories.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

That will mean a by-election. Either he resigns willingly now or there will be a recall petition which should easily pass the threshold of signatories.

It'll go to recall. He won't resign, Labour will be hoping that the 10%threshold won't be reached.

He's also only going to serve 40% of his sentence. So remember, assaulting members of the public (if you're an MP) 4 weeks in prison. Hurty words on the internet 4 years.

Enjoy the chants of two-tier Kier, they're not going away any time soon.

 

[Otterly]

Another deportation challenge pritected by the ECHR, from the Guardian this time. NHS employee cheering on Hamas on October 7t

Well, she should be departed and the judge should read her own words back to her, Dr Menatalla Elwan, 34, who worked at an NHS trust in Liverpool, reposted footage of music festivalgoers running from Hamas terrorists and wrote “if it was your home, you would stay and fight”, accompanied by a smiling face emoji.

Again, most time I have to apply for a new job I have to provide five to seven years of employment history that is checked by the firm to make sure I wasn’t lying. Why aren’t simple checks like this in place for people wanting to be politicians? Why the hell aren’t they carried out before offering them cabinet positions?

Assuming some of them have elevated security clearances as well? They should be checked by the intelligence services surely? I know a couple of people who got jobs at GCHQ and what have you and they all had their lives fine through with a fine tooth comb. They were mathematicians and even the people they’d met and done a random student poster with in their class they had investigated because they were Russian. I cannot believe that intelligence don’t background check prospective MPs?? I mean of course they do, right? Which means they simply don’t care about the lies and deception. That is to me a far worse thing because we all know politicians are grubby little wretches with their snouts in the trough but intelligence allowing them to lie like that? That’s a big deal.

 

[FedPostalService]

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I'm on my break!

Expecting her to be on time is a micro aggression and white supremacy.

So is asking if she can swim. The answer will be no but we still can’t ask.

 

[Mound Dweller]

The final solution to the g**se problem has always been to charge the bastards while flapping you arms and reeeeeeeing, never not worked for me just don't try it with llamas unless you want a headbutting.

That will mean a by-election. Either he resigns willingly now or there will be a recall petition which should easily pass the threshold of signatories.

What do we reckon the odds are the whatsapper MPs (at least 2 so far) get slapped with wrongthink charges and recalled? Grannies are getting doorstopped by detectives for "I hope you die" facebook pooosting so it'd only be fair and consistent.
I wanna see some good by-electoral humiliations before final death cascade so I can enjoy saying I told you so for longer.

 

[Kier Starmer]

I don't think Kemi will even last a full year, to be honest. The problem is having the position now is a poison chalice and anyone worth their salt will steer clear. I can see a lot of the less problematic Tories defecting, I would like to see Hunt defect there as he was a sound Chancellor. The blessing in disguise for Reform is that with both parties floundering they are getting crushed under their enormous admin costs. We are in a reality where the Conservatives could go bankrupt meaning they cannot afford to mobilize their campaigns.

His Ukraine policy is stupid and ill-timed because like always he can never read the room. A lot of people especially Reform supporters tend to be speculative of Zelensky but also the futile nature of Ukraine. Zelensky has shown his entitlement when it comes to the USA's contributions to the war. The truth in the matter is Trump knew they were contributing the most and decided to take away the credit card because he knew the Europeans were not in the position to bankroll it but also did not have the appetite except Starmer.

There are some by-elections and Reform will most likely sweep hard, Starm if in power will probably face no-confidence shit like this always triggers no-confidence votes. I predict this is when the Torie defections will start or in April. People forget when there are times of strife political scape goes fast and this will be Labour's issue just everything will weigh on them to the point they cannot escape the magnifying glass and then they buckle. This Labour is very different to the Blair Labour who were edited to a degree, these MPs are very sloppy and irrational along with their leader.

 

[FedPostalService]

The final solution to the g**se problem has always been to charge the bastards while flapping you arms and reeeeeeeing, never not worked for me just don't try it with llamas unless you want a headbutting.

What do we reckon the odds are the whatsapper MPs (at least 2 so far) get slapped with wrongthink charges and recalled? Grannies are getting doorstopped by detectives for "I hope you die" facebook pooosting so it'd only be fair and consistent.
I wanna see some good by-electoral humiliations before final death cascade so I can enjoy saying I told you so for longer.

I think they’ll just take the whip off them and hope they doesn’t resign as MPs so they can rejoin in the future as the last thing they want is Reform winning a by-election.

 

[Kier Starmer]

Yeah I can't see them removing them to give Reform 2 seats, 5 alone terrifies them.

 

[isalaide]

Well, she should be departed and the judge should read her own words back to her, Dr Menatalla Elwan, 34, who worked at an NHS trust in Liverpool, reposted footage of music festivalgoers running from Hamas terrorists and wrote “if it was your home, you would stay and fight”, accompanied by a smiling face emoji.

Assuming some of them have elevated security clearances as well? They should be checked by the intelligence services surely? I know a couple of people who got jobs at GCHQ and what have you and they all had their lives fine through with a fine tooth comb. They were mathematicians and even the people they’d met and done a random student poster with in their class they had investigated because they were Russian. I cannot believe that intelligence don’t background check prospective MPs?? I mean of course they do, right? Which means they simply don’t care about the lies and deception. That is to me a far worse thing because we all know politicians are grubby little wretches with their snouts in the trough but intelligence allowing them to lie like that? That’s a big deal.

Honestly, if elected politicians had to pass enhanced clearance, they.... couldn't. Modern day politics is a game of getting into bed with some very very fucking dubious people for money, clout, or both. MI5 more or less exists to collect info on our elected politicos, and has done for many decades. The state knows these people are all bought and sold, and who by. But the alternative - blacklisting the 'security unacceptable' - is such a base level sodomisation of our democracy that we can't live with that. It would bar forever the members of any populist, insurgent or just generally awkward cunt party from election, and their voters from representation in the political process. If you think democracy and getting to vote for whoever you actually want to vote for has any function, any moral value, then you have to let dodgy bastards run for elected office. Then of course you have to keep a close fucking eye on them. But our political class is much, much too stupid to have much if any conception of quite how fucking close an eye MI5 has on them. These are people who mostly think Rory Stewart isn't MI6, for fuck's sake.