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I really don't know what the big deal is. I've worked jobs where I had to summarize what I did for the past week, every week, for years while working there.
It didn't have to be super complicated or detailed just giving management an idea of what I did, what I tended to focus on, and what longer term things I was working on (job related education, projects in the department outside of the day to day stuff).
It was tedious but it was part of the job so they could see who was overworked versus who was stagnating, if more people needed to be added to a given department (e.g. if everyone was indicating they were taking on too much), or if the department could be downsized and people shifted around to other departments or projects for the time being while it was quieter (smaller company in one case did this to best use who they had)
Feds getting bent out of shape over being asked to do this as a one time thing is ridiculous.
Everyone should reply easily. Even the ones where it feels obvious what the answer should be so the larger shape of the department can be scoped out by the people doing the review.
These fucking fed worms are spoiled as fuck.
I had a job that did maintenance work and we had to write down our entire shift at shift change, every day. You could go back 15+ years and read the documents. Were they detailed notes? Hell no. But you could go back and read about some piece of equipment having minor failures months before it broke down.

It's not an unreasonable ask. At all. They just are having a tantrum that their boss -- and Trump is their boss and Elon is his agent, eat shit and die fedboys -- is imposing rules on them. Rules they think they should be immune to. From someone they don't think should have authority over them.

They're spoiled children pissed that they're being told to behave. That's the mindset. I ruined several jobs myself back in the day with that fucking mindset. It's horrifying to see it crop up in our government servants, but perhaps not unsurprising.
 
Insubordination is one of the causes under federal law that an employee can be fired. They can still sue to get their job back, of course, because fedgov is clown world. It appears this order is to make it as cut-and-dried as possible.

  1. You were given an order by the big boss, the POTUS.
  2. The order is unambiguous.
  3. It is unambiguously lawful (the President can ask anyone in the federal government for any information whatsoever he wants)
  4. Not replying is unambiguous insubordination.
  5. Good-bye.
Which means those alpha fedboys that told their subordinates not to reply just gave them cover.
  1. You were given an order by the big boss, the POTUS.
  2. The order is unambiguous.
  3. It is unambiguously lawful (the President can ask anyone in the federal government for any information whatsoever he wants)
  4. Not replying is unambiguous insubordination.
  5. Your boss intervened, saying not to reply.
  6. This order is unambiguous.
  7. You now can pick and choose who to obey.
  8. "You can't fire me my boss gave me updated directives which supersede the POTUS's directives."
  9. A magistrate judge from DC or Hawaii declares that the POTUS can't overrule a middle manager somewhere and stays the firings. Alternatively, they claim that the employee acted in good faith by obeying their direct supervisor, so they can't be fired for that.
Repeat the above for the next 4 years. It would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.
 
Libtards, and frankly most people don't understand what fascism is. Fascism does not have any singular doctrine or system, the main goal of fascism is to obtain power through whatever means necessary so you can revolutionize the spirit of the nation and bring about whatever your group decides is utopia by changing mens souls through force. You can be a libertarian fascist, an anarcho-fascist, a vegan fascist, a carnivore-fascist. Because fascism is just marxism but without a singular defined goal other than to bring about whatever the nations idea of utopia is through violent force and rebirth of the human spirit to bring about a man who will make that utopia possible.

In other words, fascism is marxism but honest and without a singular doctrine of the utopia it seeks to bring about.
1: Use whatever means possible to gain power
2: Violently crush your enemies
3: Somehow remake the soul of man and create your own personal/national utopia

Fascism does actually have a definition, it's just not defined down to the autistic level of detail that Marxism is, because Mussolini didn't have all that much time for political theory. Best summary is "everything of the state, by the state, and for the state."

In fascism, the nation-state is taken for granted, and it is the state itself which is seen almost as a living organism for whose purposes the individual, the private economy, labor unions, churches, and so on all work together.

For libtards, "fascism" is just "the government is mean and bossy (but not bossy in the good way like turning your kids trans against your will)."
 
Insubordination is one of the causes under federal law that an employee can be fired. They can still sue to get their job back, of course, because fedgov is clown world. It appears this order is to make it as cut-and-dried as possible.

  1. You were given an order by the big boss, the POTUS.
  2. The order is unambiguous.
  3. It is unambiguously lawful (the President can ask anyone in the federal government for any information whatsoever he wants)
  4. Not replying is unambiguous insubordination.
  5. Good-bye.
I've been told by a fed friend that her division manager sent out an email yesterday telling everyone to disregard the order to report what they got done, and directed them to instead take planned leave.
She told me her union said today it was an illegitimate and illegal request because of some ongoing lawsuit involving unions, so even people who didn't take leave should ignore it.
I hope she didn't listen to her union or her boss, because this sounds like a pretty clear loyalty test.
 
I hope she didn't listen to her union or her boss, because this sounds like a pretty clear loyalty test.
Most managers can't easily track their reports' emails. She should just respond to the email and not mention it to her manager. If the manager starts tasking IT teams to examine the team's outgoing emails, then she has a rock-solid case for reprisal against the manager.
 
Like Rachel Maddow was being paid $60,000,000 a year to make 50 one hour episodes, watched by no one.
From my own experience, Maddow is the one that left-leaning people I speak to irl will mention by name, unprompted; they talk about the program the way a lot of people talk about their caffeine addictions. I don't know about objective viewership figures, but from these interactions she's someone I believe has a real audience.
 
Fascism does actually have a definition, it's just not defined down to the autistic level of detail that Marxism is, because Mussolini didn't have all that much time for political theory. Best summary is "everything of the state, by the state, and for the state."

In fascism, the nation-state is taken for granted, and it is the state itself which is seen almost as a living organism for whose purposes the individual, the private economy, labor unions, churches, and so on all work together.

For libtards, "fascism" is just "the government is mean and bossy (but not bossy in the good way like turning your kids trans against your will)."
Specifically Fascism is national syndicalism (A society organized and conducted through unions who are socialized through the nation's mythology as its arousing mechanism) based on Actual Idealism (Basicaly Hegelian dialecticalism).

The left, before Italy even invaded Libya/Ethiopia, let alone before WWII, already smeared Fascism as the "last stage of capitalism" because it was a rival ideology fighting on the same level as it and more appealing to workers who still actually do appreciate their own nation. Most leftist smears of Fascism was the two spidermans meme, except the Red Terror had already happened so Communism actually was bloodier and more violent at that point. Fascism emphasized "violence" as a more symbolic idea of socialization through action, through force; there was no sadistic element to it. Marxism emphasized terror, hatred and violence even in its rhetoric. Seriously if you compare the rhetoric of Mussolini and Lenin one comes off as a thuggy bruiser, the other comes off as an anti-human sociopath.
 
as much as people bitch about apple there's a reason their "pre-owned" market is so huge compared to microsoft, its considered a massive accomplishment if something 10+ years old runs on windows, but its been the norm for apple for a long time now. even the smart phones, an iphone 6s can run most apps

The myth that you are "forced" to upgrade by Apple comes from the consoomerist Applebros for whom owning the latest Apple product is their whole identity. So, when Apple comes out with Next Product, that means Applebro no longer owns Newest Product, so he "has" to go out and drop a hilarious amount of money so that he can keep bragging on Facebook about his iPhone. But before he does that, he'll whine and cry for a few days about how "Apple is fucking me over" because they had the audacity to release a new device just a few months after he bought his, robbing him of his right to have Newest Product before he was ready.

The reason it's not a problem that Samsung releases new products every year is nobody buys a Galaxy so they can soyface like a fucking faggot on their Instagram. It turns out that Apple releasing new products every year isn't a problem if you're not a fucking faggot.
 
That or Philadelphia was informed refusing an accolade from the Emperor could have consequences for the city, its residents and its government that are far worse then their home football team getting to eat Big Macs with Trump.
Hell, Philadelphia just existing is bad enough consequences for the city. And America.

Except for the Flyers.
 


I don’t think a single employee of mine took less than 30 minutes to write their and one agonized for over an hour before finally emailing it. I’d say mine took about 15 minutes of deliberation once we were told we had to write it, all in all though what a colossal waste of time.
I have wasted three hours on a five bullet 10 minute ask.
Thousands of people (millions probably) already spent at least an hour on this today just in meetings with management to try to decide what to do. They could've rebuilt hundreds of houses in North Carolina with that money through FEMA or fed millions of starving children through USAID.
Even with my slick use of AI to write my bullets it took me an hour total with the entire process including the stressful meeting with our team.
I spent over an hour on it out of fear that my job depended on it. There was also the challenge of explaining my job tasks to someone who has no understanding of my job or agency.
I knew feds were braindead, but jesus christ, hours to write 5 bullet points? Need to "unmask" these redditers and fire them.
 
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Elon Musk Pushes for Global Neo-Nazi Regime Change. The World Is Fighting Back.​

Trump’s most important adviser is promoting racist parties all over the world.
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Tech billionaire Elon Musk speaks live via a video transmission during the election campaign launch rally of the far-right Alternative for Germany party on January 25, 2025, in Halle, Germany.
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In the world of MAGA, “regime change” is a dirty phrase, often decried as a policy of the bipartisan establishment that has entangled the United States in endless wars. In 2016, Trump quickly rose to the top of the Republican presidential primary because he alone was willing to denounce, in memorable terms, George W. Bush’s failed attempt to remake the Middle East. Subsequently, Trump disavowed regime change in Iran in 2019 and again in 2024. Tulsi Gabbard, the newly minted director of national intelligence, is a fierce critic of what she calls “regime change wars.” Last Friday, Richard Grenell, Trump’s envoy for special missions, told right-wing activists meeting at the Conservative Political Action Conference, “Under Donald Trump, we don’t do regime change.”

As always with Trump and his cronies, you need to look at their actions as well as their words. Often there is a wide divergence between rhetoric and behavior. In his first term, Trump actively and unsuccessfully pursued regime change in Venezuela. In his second term, the record is even worse and more sordid. Elon Musk, nominally overseeing a trimming of the federal government as head of the Trump-created Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has been acting as an ad hoc State Department, using his position as Trump’s closest adviser to push for right-wing parties—some of whom are undeniably racist and neo-Nazi—around the world.
As NBC News reports:
Billionaire tech executive Elon Musk has encouraged right-wing political movements, policies and administrations in at least 18 countries in a global push to slash immigration and curtail regulation of business.…
While Musk has received widespread attention for the upheaval he is causing in the U.S. government, as well as for his growing role in Germany, where he recently told voters to “move beyond” Nazi guilt, the tech tycoon is making his influence felt in a long and growing list of other countries.
Some of the parties that Musk has supported, notably the Conservative Party of Canada, are merely right-wing populist within the norms of mature democracies. But his patronage has extended further to regimes and movements that are either authoritarian (such as Viktor Orbán’s government in Hungary) or rooted in neo-Nazism (such as Alternative für Deutschland or AfD in Germany). In the cases where the parties he supports aren’t in power, Musk has promoted government turnover by using his perch both as the owner of a powerful social media outlet (X, formerly known as Twitter) and as a close ally to the US president.

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In effect, Musk has started a program of global regime change, one aimed not at America’s perceived foes but at America’s supposed allies. On January 22, Senator Bernie Sanders posted on X, “Elon Musk has been backing neo-Nazi parties around the world, interfering in elections and using his massive platform to attack anyone who doesn’t share his extreme right-wing views.” This is a view shared by French President Emmanuel Macron, who in early January warned that Musk was fomenting a “new international reactionary movement.”
The idea of a reactionary international is not a new one. In Trump’s first term, his adviser Steve Bannon, now out of office and a rival to Musk, also tried to foster an international alliance of nationalist and antiliberal parties that would include figures like Orbán and France’s Marine Le Pen. But Bannon’s actions were embryonic and halting. He lacked the resources, confidence, and clout of Musk, who is pushing the same agenda with an alarming frenzy of activity.
In his post condemning Musk, Sanders linked to a video prepared by his staff, featuring Matt Duss, a former Sanders adviser who is now the executive vice president at the Center for International Policy. In the video, Duss detailed the extent of Musk’s promotion of dangerous racists and authoritarians:
“Musk, the richest person on earth, has long supported right-wing causes here in the United States, including spending a quarter of a billion dollars to reelect Trump. But recently he’s decided to take his political project global, backing far-right parties in many other countries and using his massive platform to attack anyone who doesn’t share his views. Let’s start with Germany. In December, Musk publicly endorsed the German Alternative für Deutschland, or AfD, a far-right political party with deep ties to the Neo-Nazi movement….
“Despite trying to put forward a more moderate face in recent years,, the current party coleader Alice Weidel has said she sees the defeat of Nazi Germany as ‘the defeat of one’s own country by a former occupying power,’ rather than the country’s liberation from the cruelty of Nazism.
“But Musk seems fine with all this. He has written that, quote, ‘Only the AfD can save Germany,’ unquote. He has repeatedly praised the party and recently hosted a livestream with Weidel to boost the party’s electoral chances.
“And it’s not just the German far right. Musk has regularly attacked UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, most recently saying that Starmer was ‘complicit in the rape of Britain’ and calling for him to face criminal charges while calling another labor minister a ‘rape genocide apologist.’
“Musk has also repeatedly called for the release of Tommy Robinson, a member of England’s openly fascist British National Party, who is serving time in prison after libeling a 15-year-old Syrian refugee who was violently assaulted at school.”

Both Sanders and Duss rightly link Musk’s behavior to the deeper problem of oligarchy. The superrich have amassed so much power in the United States that they now think they can use the government to promote a global assault on democracy.
The heartening news is that there is evidence that Musk’s promotion of the right and fascism is backfiring. In Canada, the Liberal Party, once lagging in polls by double digits, is now competitive again against the Conservative Party of Canada, running neck and neck. Credit for the Liberal surge goes to Trump and Musk, whose threats to absorb Canada as a 51st state have ignited a patriotic rally. Musk happens to be a dual citizen of Canada and the United States. New Democratic Party member of Parliament Charlie Angus has crafted a petition calling for Musk to lose his Canadian citizenship.

The German elections on Sunday provide stronger evidence of a backlash against Musk’s far-right crusade. While AfD doubled its standing, receiving 20.7 percent of the vote, the party fell far short of its recent polling peak of 30 percent. Arguably, Musk’s embrace led to the party’s underperforming.

The likely new government with be a coalition between the traditional large parties, the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) / Christian Social Union (CSU) working with the center-left Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD). While there is little reason to be optimistic about this grand coalition of pro-system parties, which, like similar arrangements in Canada and France, is likely to prove incapable of addressing structural problems, the AfD will remain shut out of power. This pro-system coalition, made up of parties whose share of the popular vote has been shrinking, will have to contend with rising anti-system parties of both the right (such as AfD) and the left (the most promising development of the election being the revitalization of the unapologetically socialist Die Linke, which now has 8.5 percent of the vote).
Strikingly, Friedrich Merz, the Christian Democratic Union leader who will be the new chancellor of Germany, has taken a strong stance against the election interference by Trump and Musk. Although he has in the past been a staunch advocate of the NATO alliance, Merz now talks about Europe forging its own independent foreign policy.
On Sunday, Merz said, “I have absolutely no illusions about what is happening from America. Just look at the recent interventions in the German election campaign by Mr. Elon Musk—that is a unique event. The interventions from Washington were no less dramatic and drastic and ultimately outrageous than the interventions we have seen from Moscow. We are under such massive pressure from two sides that my absolute priority now really is to create unity in Europe.”
Merz added: “My absolute priority will be to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible so that, step by step, we can really achieve independence from the USA. I never thought I would have to say something like this on a television program. But after Donald Trump’s statements last week at the latest, it is clear that the Americans, at least this part of the Americans, this administration, are largely indifferent to the fate of Europe.”
It’s worth underscoring that Merz is a conservative European, the type of political figure that was once a crucial to supporting US hegemony over the continent and the world. The old dispensation of European elites being willing satraps of the United States is ending.
The fact that Trump and Musk are promoting a global fascist revolution is terrifying. But there is no certainty that they will succeed. Merz’s comments indicates one likely source of resistance. America’s erstwhile allies will increasingly turn against a superpower committed to undermining their democracies. The likely result is a United State that will be become more and more distrusted, isolated, and weakened. The true global revolution Musk is starting might be the end of American primacy.
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Fascism does actually have a definition, it's just not defined down to the autistic level of detail that Marxism is, because Mussolini didn't have all that much time for political theory. Best summary is "everything of the state, by the state, and for the state."

In fascism, the nation-state is taken for granted, and it is the state itself which is seen almost as a living organism for whose purposes the individual, the private economy, labor unions, churches, and so on all work together.

For libtards, "fascism" is just "the government is mean and bossy (but not bossy in the good way like turning your kids trans against your will)."
That is Mussolinis definition of Fascism, if you look at other fascist states you will see there is a difference. Is part of fascism a totalitarian state? Yes. But one of the common threads woven through all fascist states was an idea of the rebirth of the human spirit into a new man or "ubermensch" to reach the ultimate goal of utopia. In eastern europe fascists were heavily religious seeking to give power to clergy to bring about a Christian utopia, in Italy it was to bring about an Italian utopia (endless breadsticks and pasta?), and in Britain it was to create a "greater Britain". The whole point of Fascism is that Utopia is different for different peoples. Hence why it is national rather than international like Marxism. Musollini himself said there is no universal fascism that can be exported. The strategy is the same but the method is different. Get in power, by any means necessary or advantageous, then do whatever is neccessary to bring about rebirth of the nation in order to bring about utopia. This is why for example alot of Nazis were fucking outraged that Hitler decided to go through legalistic channels to obtain power rather than violent ones. They agreed they wanted power but disagreed on the method of obtaining the power.
 
So thread moved really fast. Did we address how Kash, Gabbard and Hegseth all opted their departments out of Elons email response?

Wtf is up with that? Genuinely don't get it. Wouldn't you want to gut the departments and staff them with people who are going to do the job?
The work of the agencies they oversee may be sensitive and not easily shared. There is also the fact it's an authority issue. Patel, Gabbard and Hegseth all ultimately answer to Trump, not Musk.
 
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