Milo Yiannopoulos / Milo Wagner / Milo Hanrahan / @nero - Gets banned from everywhere, Stole charity money and general supervillan antics, Probably a Fed

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This whole debacle is absurd. Milo was careless in a few comments, and the left is after him like ravenous dogs. He'll survive this.

He's likely finished politically but he might be able to get back to doing tours, ironically it's the protesters that make him so famous and they just can't seem to help themselves.
 
The problem with Milo's argument is that anyone around the gay community knows that while "boys" in gay lingo means over-18 young men it also tends to mean anyone in the club with a fake ID that's horny. I don't think he was saying we need to screw 13 year olds but he both made it way too vague and he's being disingenuous about how frequently age is overlooked in the gay community. I'm very curious to see if Trump sticks by him because Trump is outspoken about being loyal to those who are loyal to him. I'd guess this would be too much for him to tolerate politically but it's been a weird election.

I love how this has basically turned into a bunch of people saying "yeah gays are kinda notorious for fucking underage boys and not giving a shit about it" I'm seeing that shit all over Facebook tonight

Especially since, you know, it's true
 
His performance on Real Time, in which Bill stopped him from doing his gay conservative unicorn shtick and instead forced him to repeatedly claim not to be a conservative is probably more damning in the long run. If there's any truth to the "hit job from the right" claim, it was probably so they could kick him off CPAC without sparking an alt right tantrum, as happened with the DeploraBall.

Everything else just seems like regular effects of outrage culture.
 
The old adage is that, in politics, you're screwed if they find you with a dead woman or a live boy.

I think Milo was right on the edge, and it was working for him- he was able to play the aggrieved free speech advocate. But he should have known better than to play his hand this way. Having your speeches cancelled because you're anti-SJW gives you credit from one side; but few want to defend someone who got their book cancelled because he sounds like he's dabbling in Nambla stuff.
 
The old adage is that, in politics, you're screwed if they find you with a dead woman or a live boy.

I think Milo was right on the edge, and it was working for him- he was able to play the aggrieved free speech advocate. But he should have known better than to play his hand this way. Having your speeches cancelled because you're anti-SJW gives you credit from one side; but few want to defend someone who got their book cancelled because he sounds like he's dabbling in Nambla stuff.
Unlike social justice circles, conservatives and trolls don't circle wagons around pedopiles.

Social justice is filled with rapists and pedophiles, see Sarah 'Nicholas' Nyberg. A confirmed pedophile that tried to molest his underage cousin and fucked a dog.
 
On the one hand I sorta feel bad for Milo since he's kinda a funny guy and pissed a lot of people off but on the other I'm glad he's gone since dumb liberals can't make the argument that conservatives are okay with pedophilia. Though they will probably try to spin it that way.
 
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I was curious about his "my arguments were edited out of context" statement, so I looked at the video it was taken from.
Start around 58 minutes. They were showing Milo a clip of himself talking about a guy he hooked up with when he was very young, and someone's commentary on it. I actually think the start is worse than the edited down video, although some of it clearly comes from Milo's own internalised feelings about being abused at a young age which does make me have some sympathy for him (although he still doesn't get a pass on the paedo apologia from me). However at the very end it introduces some plausible deniability for Milo (kinda)
Ben: "If I knew someone who was around my age, who was like 'I just had sex with a 13 year old!", I would be creeped out".
Milo: "Yeah, well what is your age?"
Ben: "I'm almost 35".
Milo: "Ok, well I'm talking about 28 year olds".
Paul: (sarcastically) "OH well that changes everything!"
Milo: "Ok well I'm guessing, because I've never talked about it publicly, that you've never heard that I'm talking about 13-25, 13-28. These things do happen perfectly consensually. Often it's women suffering this. It's an older woman with a younger boy, the boy is predatory in this situation, he's like "Let's see if I can fuck the hot gym teacher, let's see if I can fuck the hot Maths teacher" and he does. The women fall in love with these nubile young men, these athletic young boys in their prime, and they end up having their lives destroyed, they end up having to move schools, they end up having to move country, or whatever. And I would say in the situation I describe on the Joe Rogan show that I was definitely the predator on both occasions. Y'know as offensive as some people might find that, I don't really care. That was definitely my experience of the situation, I was definitely the predator in the situation".
TJ: "So, Ben, uh - hold on Milo, one second - so Ben you said you'd be creeped out if someone came to you and said they'd had sex with a 13 year old. But what would you say if they said "You know, the 13 year old... they were the predator. They came on to me"? Is that really so unbelievable? You had some really horny 13 year old coming at you? If I looked as good as Milo, I'd have been fucking people for sure!"
Milo: "No seriously, is it any wonder that I was sexually precocious? I mean fucking look at me! The point of all this stuff is we get hung up on abuse. This is a controversial point, I'm aware. I accept. We get hung up on this child abuse stuff to the point where we're heavily policing even relationships between consenting adults, grad students and professors at universities."
[they joke about consent classes and play more of the video. The guy in the video raises the question of what would happen if a 14 year old wanted to suck Milo off, given he thinks it's chill - unfortunately this gets derailed by them mocking Paul for looking like the man]
Paul: "I think my problem is that consent's not this black and white thing that people make it. Are there some 13 year olds out there mature enough to give informed consent? Probably. But I was also a 13 year old. I hung around with other 13 year old guys and there were still some of them who thought girls were fucking icky at 13. Like not many, but they were just coming out of that phase. I don't know that I was ready at 13 to get fucked in the ass by a 28 year old black drag queen, is what I'm saying. The reason these age of consent laws exist is we have to set some kind of a barometer here. We've got to pick an age and go "We can be reasonably sure you're an adult, you can understand the risks, the pregnancy, all that bullshit."
Milo: "And I think the law is probably about right. It's probably roughly the right age. I think it's probably about OK. BUT there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age, I certainly consider myself to be one of them. People who are sexually active younger - I think it particularly happens in the gay world, by the way. And in many cases with those older men - this is why I hate the left. This sorta one size fits all policing of culture, this arbitrary and oppressive idea of consent, which completely destroys the subtleties and complexities of many relationships. People are messy and complicated and so- in the homosexual world particularly, some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable sort of rock, when they can't speak to their parents. Some of those relationships are some of the most-"
TJ: "Sounds like you're justifying molestation to me."
Ben: "It sounds like Catholic priest molestation to me."
Milo: "And you know what? I'm grateful to Father Michael. I wouldn't give nearly such good head if it wasn't for him."
Ben: "Oh my God, oh my God I can't handle it!"
Paul: "Milo, you gave me some videos to watch to brush up on my Milo-isms. And one of them you said that transgenderism is the new frontiers of rights - my wording is bad here - it's the new frontier of social progress, and the next thing in line is going to be paedophilia, but then you're here saying 'Look, some of these kids getting diddled by Priests, it's a good thing for them, they're getting this love!'"
Milo: "No, you're misunderstanding what paedophilia means. Paedophilia is not a sexual attraction to someone who is 13 years old who is sexually mature. Paedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. Paedophilia is attraction to people who don't have functioning sex organs yet, who have not gone through puberty, who are too young to understand their bodies. That is not what we're talking about. You don't understand what paedophilia is if you think I'm defending it."
Paul: "I'm not saying you're defending it. I'm saying you're walking a line"
Milo: (angrily) "No you said I'm defending it."
Paul: "Ok, I retract my statement. I shan't slander you further. But you are advocating for cross generational relationships here. Can we be honest about that?"
Milo: "Yeah I don't mind admitting that. I don't mind admitting that particularly in the gay world, and outside the Catholic Church, if that's where some of you want to go with this, I think some of the most important, affirming, life shaping relationships very often between younger boys and older men can be hugely positive experiences for those young boys, they can even save those young boys from desolation, from suicide, from - provided they're consensual."
TJ: "I'm going to jump to Milo's defense here, I've read stories of gay men using their virginity and they tend to be 'I was 14, I was 15' and it does seem more common in that community."
Milo: "Just because I was sexually precocious doesn't mean that I'm going to say that every 13 year old that has sex with a 28 year old is fine, I don't know because I don't know the specifics of that case. I'm not saying that every relationship involving those ages is fine, I have said many times that I consider myself an outlier."
That seems to be the end of them talking about it. You can see how he could claim that it's out of context, but he also very clearly expounds on the idea that a 13 year old trying it on with a teacher is predatory and being attracted to 13 year olds is not paedophilia. Sooooo I wouldn't really say it's that out of context, the bit at the end mostly sounds like backpedalling.
 
On the one hand I sorta feel bad for Milo since he's kinda a funny guy and pissed a lot of people off but on the other I'm glad he's gone since dumb liberals can't make the argument that conservatives are okay with pedophilia. Though they will probably try to spin it that way.

From what I've seen so far on twitter their trying to say all Conservatives/Alt-Right/Nazis (all are the same to them, take your pick on which word they use), are either closet pedos themselves or that they're hypocrites because they call out Milo for being a pedo but didn't can him for hating troons, illegals, etc.

Also they're bringing up some comment Michael Flynn made during the election where he said Milo was a brave guy, and the fact Bannon was his boss and are trying to do some mental gymnastics to link this all to the Trump administration.
 
This whole debacle is absurd. Milo was careless in a few comments, and the left is after him like ravenous dogs. He'll survive this.
Even though it's pretty much impossible to know what Milo actually believes in, when he repeats talking points that are literally used by NAMBLA he should not be acting surprised that a shit-tsunami crashes down on him.

He said that underaged boys having relationships with grown men can be harmless (and can potentially be beneficial to the child).
https://nambla.org/faq.html said:
Q: Do you believe it’s possible for a boy and a man to have a close, even sexual relationship, without any harm?

A: Yes it’s possible, and it happens every day. Many studies have confirmed that the large majority of sexual contacts between boys and older partners are both consensual and harmless. See below for a listing of some of these published, peer-reviewed studies.
Argumenting that a child (I think Milo used "13-year-old") and an adult can have a consensual sexual relationship is, as far as I'm concerned, reprehensible at best - if not outright dangerous. When you're just beginning to mature and your brain is not even close to being fully developed, there is no way you can fuly grasp what is actually happening. Teens having sex with teens? That happens every day and is a normal part of sexual exploration, but a teen getting it on with a 40-something man?

I'm sure if someone really wanted to, they could get the kid to agree to having a "consensual relationship". That does not mean it is actualy consensual. Who is to say the guy didn't pressure/manipulate the kid into it and the boy just went with "it's ok, I wanted it!" to not get his "friend" into more trouble? Cause I'm sure that hapens every day.

In the end the adult is the one that has the power. Trying to argue that away is tok.
 
Pretty much standard MO now, when they get to the height of their visibility, find the worst thing they ever said, send it to whoever is paying them or has corporate deals with them, suddenly all the major outlets that just happen to have a stake in taking them down is pushing this all over the place. BTW the South Korean President was impeached and the CEO of Samsung was arrested, but who cares?

Happened to PewDiePie, with the "Nazi apologist"
Happened to Trump with "They let you grab em by the pussy"
Happens to Milo with "Pedo advocacy"

Oh look you got cut off from support and other prominent entities have disowned you.

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