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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

As much as I don't like Kemi Bathing Nog, I do think she'll do ok as Tory leader. Maybe won't be PM, but I feel like she's a bit more of a hardliner then some of the weakass centrist, gloabalist Tories we've seen fuck up the country the last 14 years.

Let's face it, half the Tories are spineless elitist cunts anyway. She might be the one to bring them back in line. Labour can only fuck up so many times. The opposition will have to take advantage of it sometime.

Or I could be wrong and she drowns in a bathtub.

Because she can't swim.

 

[FedPostalService]

Or I could be wrong and she drowns in a bathtub.

Because she can't swim.

This is a Greggs, sir, and we are going to have to ask you to leave the premises.

 

[Kier Starmer]

I and the other half on Facetime now will outright talk to Yvette Cooper and say "How's your day been?"I want it on the court documents for the lols. I had to explain to the other half the running Greggs meme too.

 

[BongoMongo]

I enjoy saying loudly in public places that Kneeler Keir takes it up the shitpipe from a paki to get his suits and spectacles. I also enjoy hearing people audibly gasp when I say starmer is an adulterer who has a bastard and who silenced the press.

Oh and the five guys thing? I saw that and emailed them to ask if true. They confirmed it was a "trial"but we all know they'll sneak it on through the back door (probably keirs).

Halal meat tastes wank, the ethics aside. Scared animals make for bad meat.


Muslims don't know what good meat is and allah was a pedophile. Muslims are pedo worshippers.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Keir loves it up the bum from five halal guys.

 

[BongoMongo]

Starmer is a batty boy really works to the tune of Camptown Races.

 

[Kier Starmer]

Kier is so gay even his own bastard calls him a fag.

 

[Brahma]

WHAT?! What a fucking nigger!

Not really sneaking, it's on their website

The following Five Guys stores are fully Halal certified where we serve Halal certified British beef. No bacon, hot dogs or alcohol are available in these stores:

Leicester Cheapside
Birmingham Fort Dunlop
Leeds Trinity
London Park Royal
Manchester Arndale

I do love this headline though


Five Guys make major change to Birmingham store and fans 'really appreciate' it

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/five-guys-make-major-change-31021557

 

[BongoMongo]

I would vote for any political party,even the SNP if they promised to ban halal and kosher slaughter. It's inhumane and makes for poor quality meat. Like just be vegetarian already (I know, weirdly enough a Muslim at work who is and their rationale is, they don't like meat and they don't believe in needless suffering.

She's an interesting person. She's dropped hints before that she wants out but there's familial and community pressure. I dislike islam and I wouldn't trust fully an ex Muslim but reading the horrors on r/exmuslim is harrowing stuff. It makes leaving the Joe Wits look like an April fools prank.

 

[isalaide]

Yeah I agree. And I agree that we don’t need them to be spotless in some ways.
What puzzles me is why nobody took anyone on cabinet aside and said ‘this will come back to bite you; correct it now.’ This is basic stuff that there’s no need to not correct. She already had the job, the lowest risk thing to do would be ‘oh sorry that’s a typo, must have been a cut and paste error let me fix that.’ Leaving the lie there gives someone an edge over her. Which maybe is the point. But it’s just odd.
This would have been picked up in any review, even the most casual pleb level reference check would pick this up. but nobody did anything with that knowledge. Is this the kind if minor but embarrassing thing they deliberately don’t fix to have a minor bit of kompromat? Or do they not give a shit at government level and told mi5 to bog off? I’m just very curious how this went down.
@Bog-standard Poster trump would just do the ‘brave American citizens under threat, weak limeys and surrender monkeys wimped out, we are sending people.’ I don’t think that’d be enough leverage.

MI5 don't advise the government in that way. It is not their job to check people out on political parties' or the general public's behalf. If someone in office becomes compromised enough that their security clearance or access to data has to be throttled, someone goes to see the prime minister quietly.

Other than that, politicians are allowed to lie as much as they want, and it's the job of the media and general public to find that out. Noninterference with the democratic process. Minister for Business has a national security clearance not any better than yours; really only the Justice Secretary, Defence Secretary and Foreign Secretary handle anything especially unpleasant.

See Boris pre-Cameron sacking: it was the job of the Tories to check out how many abortions and mistresses were in his closet. Not MI5. They won't do the job of party whips for them, and they won't do the job of the tabloids either. Their job is to know things, and they know things. Not to tell people unless there is a real and present security issue.

 

[A-Logato]

I would vote for any political party,even the SNP if they promised to ban halal and kosher slaughter. It's inhumane and makes for poor quality meat. Like just be vegetarian already (I know, weirdly enough a Muslim at work who is and their rationale is, they don't like meat and they don't believe in needless suffering.

She's an interesting person. She's dropped hints before that she wants out but there's familial and community pressure. I dislike islam and I wouldn't trust fully an ex Muslim but reading the horrors on r/exmuslim is harrowing stuff. It makes leaving the Joe Wits look like an April fools prank.

One of the funniest things you can do IRL is confront vegan/anti-meat protestors about Halal and Kosher meat. They'll utterly refuse to say anything about it as they do not want to risk offending our desert dwelling overlords and will begin having a quite literal meltdown in the streets.

Make sure to be eating a Greg's sausage roll whilst doing this.

 

[BongoMongo]

One of the funniest things you can do IRL is confront vegan/anti-meat protestors about Halal and Kosher meat. They'll utterly refuse to say anything about it as they do not want to risk offending our desert dwelling overlords and will begin have a quite literal meltdown in the streets.

Make sure to be eating a Greg's sausage roll whilst doing this.

Non-vegan,in Greggs itself, I assume?

And you're absolutely right on that. They don't say shit. They know which side their bread is buttered on, if you'll excuse the pun.

 

[AssignedEva]

One of the funniest things you can do IRL is confront vegan/anti-meat protestors about Halal and Kosher meat. They'll utterly refuse to say anything about it as they do not want to risk offending our desert dwelling overlords and will begin have a quite literal meltdown in the streets.

Make sure to be eating a Greg's sausage roll whilst doing this.

About a decade ago I encountered some vegans who were basically arguing this, along the lines of "traditional foods are an important part of culture for marginalised groups, so shouldn't be policed". When I raised that traditional food is an important part of anyone's culture, I got told "we're not marginalised in the UK so it's fine to change our food, just not theirs" and "our food is shit anyway and doesn't have cultural importance" (the mindset of dullards who can't cook British cuisine properly).

I didn't think of asking "does that mean it's ok if I eat meat as long as it's cooked in a curry" but I'm having an esprit d'escalier moment right now - although this was at the peak of the cultural appropriation moral panic and I do remember being separately told by some idiot that I shouldn't cook curry because I was "Columbusing" it, since Indian people remember being bullied in school for eating Indian food (not by me, but apparently one white person being an arse once means no white people get to have curry).

 

[A-Logato]

Non-vegan,in Greggs itself, I assume?

And you're absolutely right on that. They don't say shit. They know which side their bread is buttered on, if you'll excuse the pun.

If you can get one of them in a Greg's whilst you have your sausage roll then remember to be racist.

"traditional foods are an important part of culture for marginalised groups, so shouldn't be policed". When I raised that traditional food is an important part of anyone's culture, I got told "we're not marginalised in the UK so it's fine to change our food, just not theirs" and "our food is shit anyway and doesn't have cultural importance" (the mindset of dullards who can't cook British cuisine properly).

Yeah that's about the same answer I got when I pulled this off in public. Though I had the answer of "this isn't what were addressing here" and all around general name calling. Though it is funny to make the mask slip some what and that their really just leftists wanting to destroy yet another British industry.

 

[teriyakiburns]

this was at the peak of the cultural appropriation moral panic and I do remember being separately told by some idiot that I shouldn't cook curry because I was "Columbusing" it

>"Columbusing"

Peak American import. I just assumed it was the outsized cultural influence the US had over our media, but now it's turning out that none of this shit was remotely organic in any way and was all paid for by the US government. I wonder if we'll find there were USAID payments going to top three party HQs soon.

Though it is funny to make the mask slip some what and that their really just leftists wanting to destroy yet another British industry.

It's also deracination and demoralisation. We're told our culture doesn't exist and is also evil in every possible way. We're told that our food is terrible and all the good parts of it are stolen from other places. We're told our heritage belongs to the world and we have no right to an ethnic homeland. We're told we never invented anything and everything the British Isles produced was actually made by someone else. If they can't argue it wasn't British, then it was only ever used for evil, colonisation, and destruction.

 

[isalaide]

our food is terrible and all the good parts of it are stolen from other places

I can't adequately express how much I don't want to eat mashed turnip and bits of old sheep, so I fully support stealing food from other places

 

[FedPostalService]

I would vote for any political party,even the SNP if they promised to ban halal and kosher slaughter. It's inhumane and makes for poor quality meat. Like just be vegetarian already (I know, weirdly enough a Muslim at work who is and their rationale is, they don't like meat and they don't believe in needless suffering.

She's an interesting person. She's dropped hints before that she wants out but there's familial and community pressure. I dislike islam and I wouldn't trust fully an ex Muslim but reading the horrors on r/exmuslim is harrowing stuff. It makes leaving the Joe Wits look like an April fools prank.

You can get really great quality lamb cheaply in halal butchers though.

Also, the ex-Muslims have it the worst. They are pretty much commanded to be killed and half their local council would carry out the sentence if they could get away with it.

 

[BongoMongo]

Does anyone else wonder if the tune will change once we are marginalized and are the minority? Because that day will happen,in our lifetimes if something does not give.

The cards are all in place for a Muslim led Government which will enforce Shariah law.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Kier's cut international aid in favour of defence. I have a suspicion a lot of this will simply involve changing the names of certain departments.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyrkkv4gd7o

https://archive.ph/xWNgb

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has set out plans to increase defence spending to 2.5% of national income by 2027, as peace talks to end the war in Ukraine gather pace.The PM said he would cut the UK's international aid budget to fund the rise in defence spending, which is currently 2.3% of GDP.
Opposition parties welcomed the move to spend more on defence but the aid cuts were branded "a betrayal" by charities.
The announcement comes ahead of a meeting between Sir Keir and US President Donald Trump at the White House on Thursday.
President Trump has been urging European countries to spend more on defence, as global powers attempt to broker a deal to end the war in Ukraine.
The move was praised by US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth, who called it a "strong step from an enduring partner".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4gm41lq6rlt
Sir Keir said the UK's aid budget would be reduced from 0.5% of GDP to 0.3% in 2027, "fully funding the investment in defence".
He told the Commons that would mean spending £13.4bn more on defence every year from 2027.
Last year the UK spent £53.9bn on defence.
The prime minister said defence spending would rise to 2.6% of GDP by 2027, once the contribution of intelligence services to defence had been factored in.
Urging European allies to step up, Sir Keir said the UK would also set out a "clear ambition" to increase defence spending to 3% of GDP after the next general election.
He said the boost in defence spending could only be funded through "extremely difficult and painful choices", adding the aid cut was not "an announcement I am happy to make".
However, he added that "the defence and security of the British people must always come first".
In its election manifesto, Labour pledged to restore development spending to 0.6% of gross national income "as soon as fiscal circumstances allow" - a goal the government says it is still committed to.
Charities were stunned by the aid cut, with Save the Children calling it "a betrayal of the world's most vulnerable children and the UK's national interest".
"There is nothing respectful about slashing lifelines for families in the most dangerous places," the charity's chief executive Moazzam Malik said.
Labour MP Sarah Champion, who chairs the Commons International Development Committee, called on the government to "rethink today's announcement".
"Cutting the aid budget to fund defence spending is a false economy that will only make the world less safe," she said.

The hike in defence spending will help the UK's armed forces, which have experienced severe cuts since the end of the Cold War.
However, it will not completely reverse the decline in the country's military capability.
Even before this extra cash injection, the Ministry of Defence was facing a black hole in its equipment budget of around £17bn over the next decade, according to the National Audit Office.
A large part of the increase will go towards plugging holes in underfunded programs and fixing urgent shortages in munitions, according to Malcolm Chalmers, deputy director of the Royal United Services Institute think tank.
But he said the commitment to reach 3% of GDP by the mid-2030s could lead to a "transformation in how our military fights", giving the armed forces the ability to plan long-term and "ensuring that innovation is not always squeezed out by spending on big platforms".
Sir Keir had previously said the government would set out a pathway to spending 2.5% of GDP on the military by the next general election, following a review of the country's defence capabilities.
But rapid diplomatic developments, spurred by President Trump's push to end the war in Ukraine, injected urgency into decisions about defence.
It is unclear if the increase will impress Trump, who has been telling European Nato allies they should be spending something more like 5% on defence.
Nato guidelines suggest each member state should spend at least 2% of their GDP, but recently the organisation's head, Mark Rutte, said allies should be aiming for something "north of 3%".

The prime minister's trip to the White House later this week follows French President Emmanuel Macron's talks with Trump on Monday.
It is a high-stakes visit as European leaders scramble to put forward their own proposals for ending the war and keeping Russia at bay.
Ahead of the meeting, Sir Keir said: "We must reject any false choice between our allies, between one side of the Atlantic and the other."
Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch welcomed the increase in defence spending and the "repurposing" of money from the aid budget.
But she did question whether the government had a strong enough economic strategy to underpin the rise in spending on defence.
The Liberal Democrats have previously called for cross-party talks on reaching 3% of GDP on defence "as soon as possible".
Party leader Sir Ed Davey welcomed the announcement but urged the government to "raise the money in different ways" through seizing frozen Russian assets or by increasing taxes on multi-national tech companies.
The SNP's Westminster leader, Stephen Flynn, said that whilst his party backed the increase in defence spending, it could not support "the populist playbook" of cutting aid to fund it.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

Posted this morning on the official Labour party twitter page

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Why is it that the UK specifically is going all in on Ukraine? Has Starmer actually gone completely mental? Why are we hell-bent on perpetual war in Ukraine, no matter the consequences?

I said it before earlier in this thread but it's probably a last ditch attempt to distract the restless populace. Or alternatively and more disturbingly, The Powers That Be have some very sick shit buried in Ukraine that they fear might get uncovered once the war ends, and are trying to do anything they can to escalate the conflict in the hope that their dirty secrets don't become public.

Just look at how much they clamp down on all discussion involving the grooming gangs and how scared they were when Elon Musk started talking about it on Xitter.