US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Mr. Manchester]

Diddy is burning in hell in real time

I want a NEW one.

 

[Fatpacks]

So why in god's name did they release these documents to some political twitter autists and wannabe media pendants? I don't get that part. Sure someone pointed out earlier that this may have been "trump showmanship"

But we've seen what that looks like, and it's not this. This reeks of a fuckup of monumental proportions.

It's going to completely tank Trump's second term. This one incident caused his entire admin to lose all credibility.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

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You bring up a very good point. However i do have to bring up the counterargument of "baby trapping" which is where the woman tricks the man with defective or sabotaged birth control. I know it's another fringe issue. But it's a pertinent one, especially with the courts being massive fucking simps for anyone with a pair of tits and a vagina.

That's still not the baby's fault.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

>nooo you have to give government funds to me because I had a child!


Surely showing how much more rational your gender is

Reread my post and come back to me. You either ban abortion and pay for the unwanted kids or ban welfare for families free lunches etc

Pick one lane. And btw retard kids cost about 4 million during their lifetime on average . Homeless ferals cost the government even more, institutionalised individuals which basically prisoners also cost money around 50k per head per year.

Do the math faggots and don't cry to me about the tax bills or stolen shit like your retarded libshit counterparts .

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

You bring up a very good point. However i do have to bring up the counterargument of "baby trapping" which is where the woman tricks the man with defective or sabotaged birth control. I know it's another fringe issue. But it's a pertinent one, especially with the courts being massive fucking simps for anyone with a pair of tits and a vagina.

i think this is rare enough that it's not really something to consider on the grand moral scale, but i agree that it should at least be thought about. in this case, you probably have to have the state take care of the child, because the idea of a state-mandated abortion for what is otherwise absolutely a behavior that should be criminal is probably the single most horrifying concept i can imagine. in these kinds of rare cases, that's what safety nets and social protection for children are there for. thank God above that this is not a very common behavior.

 

[God of Nothing]

Wow, what an incorrect take.

woman, please understand
she's having a moment

 

[Oeselian Chad]

this may not be the most popular opinion, but the data has shown that rape and incest account for an extremely, unbelievably low percentage of abortions. most of them are done because it is inconvenient to have a child at the time, or would lead to a negative life for the child.

the argument that i find the most compelling is that no one should be involved in straight, vaginal sex unless you're prepared to handle a child, because it is not fair to any child to have to be aborted 'because it'll be too awful to raise them' or 'because they'll suffer horribly' when all it took was the two people involved in making a child not having that sex to prevent it from happening. personal responsibility is a very important thing to look at here, because it takes two people to make the decisions necessary to create a child.

Yeah, but most abortions are done by niggers and coalburners, and neither have any sense of consequences and responsibility or value to society, and never will

 

[neger psykolog]

So why in god's name did they release these documents to some political twitter autists and wannabe media pendants? I don't get that part. Sure someone pointed out earlier that this may have been "trump showmanship"

But we've seen what that looks like, and it's not this. This reeks of a fuckup of monumental proportions.

uhh... we've seen what that looks like... and this looks exactly the same, except this time a bunch of faggy "new media" people are using the opportunity to dsp prestream about it and then try and shill their faggy male face cream products.

 

[The 6th Jester]

No it is not, and i'm not arguing for abortion. The point i'm trying to make here is that it doesn't always take two to make a child. I apologize if that comes off as pedantic or splitting hairs.

That's still not the baby's fault.

 

[Kulee Baba]

New MAGA copium just dropped
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While it does sound pathetic to rely on influencers we’ve seen that meme culture can influence politics. CoachRedPill is the most famous casualty of the Russo-Ukraine War, Kiwifarms kept his memory alive.

If the story falls out of public consciousness again it will be pushed aside.

 

[Pelican Bones]

ban abortion and pay for the unwanted kids

How about no

 

[Fred Herbert]

Bring back Biden. He’d release all the documents publicly by accident while talking about trans lumberjacks or some shit, stare into space for 15 minutes and then walk into a wall.

Much more entertaining than these Twitter grifters.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

No it is not, and i'm not arguing for abortion. The point i'm trying to make here is that it doesn't always take two to make a child. I apologize if that comes off as pedantic or splitting hairs.

it absolutely does always take two people, except in the most absolutely insane fringe cases of post-coitus condom theft from other people, or something equally as criminally insane. in that case, the woman wouldn't be mentally sound enough to care for the child in the first place.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Why is she even getting pregnant in the first place?

Because condoms are terrible and it’s illegal to sterilize people without consent

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Reread my post and come back to me. You either ban abortion and pay for the unwanted kids or ban welfare for families free lunches etc

Pick one lane. And btw retard kids cost about 4 million during their lifetime on average . Homeless ferals cost the government even more, institutionalised individuals which basically prisoners also cost money around 50k per head per year.

No, I'm going to stand on the camp of stop letting losers nut in you. No freebies. No abortion. No gibs. No tax dollars for single moms. No tax dollars for abortion. Not a single fucking cent. You can't pay for your bastards? I don't give a shit. It's not my problem and it's not society's problem.

Now child support? Go ahead. Rake the deadbeats over the coals, we can keep our current system of fucking men in the ass with CS payments. Maybe make it even harsher.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

While it does sound pathetic to rely on influencers we’ve seen that meme culture can influence politics. CoachRedPill is the most famous casualty of the Russo-Ukraine War, Kiwifarms kept his memory alive.

If the story falls out of public consciousness again it will be pushed aside.

Epstein didn't kill himself was the first political meme I saw break boomer containment. My mom was quoting it to me, ad nauseum, while she was alive. This story will haunt discourse for decades at least until Millennials are fucking dead.

 

[Nameless One]

Wanting to stop giving shaniqua gibs and not blaming the BABY FOR HER FAULTS are not mutually exclusive you baby hating fucktard.

Justa is a mother. I think her opinion is more valid than half the chat who "joke" about torturing women and shit.
Also "gibs" have helped solo mothers but all of the ones deserving of it never obtain it, they get denied for Shaniqua and lowlives. You know how broken the system really is?

Imagine moralfagging about a baby who will grow up to endure the worst and most chaotic lives.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Reread my post and come back to me. You either ban abortion and pay for the unwanted kids or ban welfare for families free lunches etc

is the idea of people actually taking accountability for having sex and creating children really so inconceivable to you that you would prefer to increase the amount of abortions instead? why is abstinence before you're prepared for a child wrong in your eyes?

 

[The 6th Jester]

i think this is rare enough that it's not really something to consider on the grand moral scale, but i agree that it should at least be thought about. in this case, you probably have to have the state take care of the child, because the idea of a state-mandated abortion for what is otherwise absolutely a behavior that should be criminal is probably the single most horrifying concept i can imagine. in these kinds of rare cases, that's what safety nets and social protection for children are there for. thank God above that this is not a very common behavior.

Yeah it is a rare case, but I've heard horror stories of it in the past that for the life of me i can't remember (I'll take my licks for it.) you are absolutely correct that abortion is not at all the solution. But considering the state's.... standard of care. Is it safe to leave it to them? I'm not disagreeing with you that it's the best option. But it's the best out of a bunch of equally shitty if not worse options. Is it possible to have an alternative? I apologize i'm drawing blanks here.

 

[pwnest injun]

it reeks of ELON is what reeks of. others have pointed out that this was the exact format he used for the fucking stupid twitter files, and everyone hated it.

The Twitter files thing made perfect sense, because it was allowing access to a giant pile of raw info to a handful of journalist so that they could pick through it. In the case of the Epstein files, the people who got binders have been some of the main drivers for digging up and releasing info on Epstein, including Cernovitch being THE guy who kept filing FoIA requests for years and years before Epstein was arrested and killed. He was hounding that kike back when most thread posters were still radiant over voting for Obama.