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I knew this, you knew this, but we are clued in mega autists with more information then we know what to do with. Pam Bondi on the other hand grew up believing that everything was great and if there was a few bad apples, no biggies. The idea that the entire apple was not just rotten, it was completely rotten and full of worms is probably a world shattering realization for her. The question now is what she does with this new found knowledge
Pam is a smart woman. There is no way she was unaware of the scope of the problem, she's been in this game a long time. Nor do I believe that she looked at 200 pages of old news and truly thought to herself "Well I guess this is really all they have!"

Like I said, I don't buy the innocent and incompetent angle. She's well aware of Epstein and had the chance to do something about him when she was AG in Florida. I 100% believe she's undermining Trump's agenda.
 
Now wonder Trump's cabinet was so hesitant to put this out. Who else from there is on this list?
No one that I recognized off hand.
But anyone who has had to do any networking for their job knows being on someone's contact list doesn't mean anything except that you run in the same social circles and maybe spoke to each other at least once.

I've got an entire box of business cards and 99% of them are people I never talked to again after the initial chat.
If the client list or flight logs show RFK Jr went to the island more than once and/or was a client he can kindly rot in hell though.

I don't suspect it though, otherwise why would RFK Jr willingly join a cabinet who has been open about wanting to release the files? He'd be as loyal to the dems as Bernie is just to keep that information locked up tight.
 
Read that back. It’s ok to protect sex traffickers for petty political victories?

Reminder that he US will charge you for crimes you have committed overseas if a proper case is put forward. Also reminder that releasing Tate into the US means that the foreign DA equivalent now has to hand over all data to the feds if they want him jailed. Essentially we get to see all the receipts.
 
America keeps losing.

The Ukraine deal just does not go as intended. It completely pissed off America's allies for basically nothing, Trump is still giving aid to Ukraine. For a mineral deal that means basically nothing.

The Epstein files were a nothing burger.

China just keeps winning with Deepseek and a new nuclear fusion record.

Basically none of Trump's economic promises made it. No tax on tips was a dud so it's not "tax free bish". Doge is a nothing burger that isn't really cutting that much. Massive projected deficit increases with lower corporate taxes.
Bro its been a month, sorry that Trump couldn't use the activation word Ronald McDonald to simultaneously make the Three Gorges Dam and egg prices collapse.
 
Pam is a smart woman. There is no way she was unaware of the scope of the problem, she's been in this game a long time. Nor do I believe that she looked at 200 pages of old news and truly thought to herself "Well I guess this is really all they have!"

Like I said, I don't buy the innocent and incompetent angle. She's well aware of Epstein and had the chance to do something about him when she was AG in Florida. I 100% believe she's undermining Trump's agenda.
So aside from the black book and flight log, is there a record of bribes that would be released too? I could see a certain Florda AG having her name as a recipient.
If the client list or flight logs show RFK Jr went to the island more than once and/or was a client he can kindly rot in hell though.

I don't suspect it though, otherwise why would RFK Jr willingly join a cabinet who has been open about wanting to release the files? He'd be as loyal to the dems as Bernie is just to keep that information locked up tight.
He went with his wife right? Be a bit odd getting some underage action with the ol' ball and chain around, unless she is into it too...
 
To be honest, I think Trump set an unrealistic goal with the timeframe in releasing the epstein doc. Like it should've been longer than two weeks, with the knowledge that you knew there was going to be issues at the get go in retrieving all the documents and what can be released to the public.

Felt like it was rushed and they just scraped up what they could get to make deadline. This is one of those matter that taking time with it would've been fine to cross your T's and dot your I's in the long run.
The timeline is not the issue. The moment she became aware that the FBI was holding back, Pam should've immediately issued a statement saying as much. Then she should've wrangled Kash, an armored van full of angry agents, and some of Elon's pet autists and torn the New York office apart. At this point, this is the only thing she can do to save face.
 
He went with his wife right? Be a bit odd getting some underage action with the ol' ball and chain around, unless she is into it too...
He's listed on the contact list, not a flight log/client list/island visitor list that we know of.
So no. It just means that Epstein somehow got his contact information from RFK Jr and Mary, just one of them, or some other third party who passed along the information.
 
To be honest, I think Trump set an unrealistic goal with the timeframe in releasing the epstein doc. Like it should've been longer than two weeks, with the knowledge that you knew there was going to be issues at the get go in retrieving all the documents and what can be released to the public.

Felt like it was rushed and they just scraped up what they could get to make deadline. This is one of those matter that taking time with it would've been fine to cross your T's and dot your I's in the long run.
Then he should have said that.

He could have easily said "the declassification is taking longer than expected, we apologize". People might have been mad at first, but they'd forget whenever he'd deliver. Instead he turned the whole thing into a circus, released fuckall, and made himself look like a clown that either protects pedophiles or is one himself.

Trump's entire thing is transparency. If there was a delay then he could have easily told the reason for it and people would believe him.
Legal issues? FBI sabotage? The public would have understood.

Instead they're clearly lying and parading these old logs like they're something the public hasn't seen already. It looks INCREDIBLY suspicious and recontextualizes everything Trump and Elon have done.
 
The timeline is not the issue. The moment she became aware that the FBI was holding back, Pam should've immediately issued a statement saying as much. Then she should've wrangled Kash, an armored van full of angry agents, and some of Elon's pet autists and torn the New York office apart. At this point, this is the only thing she can do to save face.
Exactly. The time frame and her facing resistance from the FBI isn't the problem. We knew that would happen. How she responded is the issue. It's incompetence at best, active sabotage at worst. She's gotta go.
 
Xi is worried. Its the only reason he has decided to make the trip.

Diplomatically, the only foreign visit Trump has committed too thus far was today. To visit King Charles the III, after the King sent his Prime Minister to deliver an engraved invitation.

I am still sperging about this right now. This is old school power politics. And for once the UK is not being a faggot. The Japanese Prime Minister missed a trick. He could have had the Emperor of Japan invite Trump, and instead the first foreign visit would be to Japan instead of the UK. The point is however that the Emperor is enthroned, and the Crown of America has been placed on a mortals head for the first time in almost a century.

Those who understand this dynamic, are reacting appropriately. Those who don't, are seething about how horrible it is. Calling it everything from Fascist to Totalitarian. Its neither.

A Man endured the tribulation of heaven, and was made to suffer before the gaze of an entire nation. Heaven responded to that mans will, and the people followed. This isn't fascism. This is fundamental human psychology if you want to get all boring scientific about it. If you want to be poetic about it, then Heaven has rendered its verdict on a mortal and has elevated him to power as Emperor.

The man who sits the throne of State
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That wields its sword
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And lives in the mind of his people enthroned.
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I don't think anyone has fully internalized just what has happened. A Great man of history saw the crown of America in the gutter, and plucked it from the mire. And the people then placed that crown upon his head. Fukiyama needs to go find the nearest bridge and jump from it.
 
its crazy how much pushback there has been on the farms over DOGE kicking out the most useless people from NOAA, like why do we need to spend billions for another wrong study on global warming that overshoots things by a fact of 7?
Did they fire the people doing those worthless studies, or have they fired people actually working on meteorology?
 
Felt like it was rushed and they just scraped up what they could get to make deadline. This is one of those matter that taking time with it would've been fine to cross your T's and dot your I's in the long run.
Bondi herself didn't help. The hot mic of "its on my desk" will never not be retarded. She fucked up bad for that and drummed up expectations WAY higher than she could cash.

He could have easily said "the declassification is taking longer than expected, we apologize".
It's really hard to de-escalate from "ITS ON MY DESK". Your point doesn't lack merit and Trump should've, but at this point I think he left this up to his cabinet. It also makes you wonder if Bondi is trying to recoup their losses by turning the FBI into the patsy.

The timeline is not the issue. The moment she became aware that the FBI was holding back, Pam should've immediately issued a statement saying as much. Then she should've wrangled Kash, an armored van full of angry agents, and some of Elon's pet autists and torn the New York office apart. At this point, this is the only thing she can do to save face.
I mean, she kind of DID. In a retarded and grandstanding way that makes tin foil hats question what her motives are and skeptics just shake their heads. She gave us a deadline of tomorrow so all we can do at this point is wait and see. I'd give her more scrutiny if she didn't openly grandstand the date by tomorrow morning. What she's openly accusing the FBI of could see them all thrown in jail so it's not nothing. SOMETHING has to happen from this. If it doesn't....Boy is Bondi going to look bad.
 
I know it's petty, but I really wish you smug, contrarian niggers wanting to dunk on Trump would just do it on your main accounts instead of hiding behind socks. You're already anonymous. It makes it seem like you're more concerned about preserving your precious Reddit gold than anything else, and that's frankly just embarrassing to see. Be a man like the Hulkster (blessed be HIS name); at least when he does swing by and call us geriatric simps hungry for Cheeto cock, he does so with pride.
 
It's really hard to de-escalate from "ITS ON MY DESK". Your point doesn't lack merit and Trump should've, but at this point I think he left this up to his cabinet. It also makes you wonder if Bondi is trying to recoup their losses by turning the FBI into the patsy.
Even if this was all he had, even if he couldn't de-escalate and had to release them as-is, there's no reason anyone would say "let's give the Epstein files, the ones about the child sex trafficking ring, to these twitter people and turn it into a fun photoshoot!" unless they were literally retarded or guilty and doing it to mock the American people.

If a staffer did it everyone involved must be fired immediately and Trump needs to publicly apologize and keep a tighter leash because he hired some retards.

If Trump did it then it's likely the leftists saying he's Biden-level demented are right.
 
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