Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

I am not an expert, but I believe Zelensky made a big mistake. He walked into a trap. Trump and Vance have cracked him. It was a classic setup: Vance started being antagonistic with Zelensky, Zelensky pushed back and then Trump joined in and took control of the situation. Also there were US politicians asking questions unfavourable to Zelensky as a backup. This was well thought out beforehand. Even if you hate Trump or disagree with him you have to respect his negotiation skills.

It's a good sign of how unqualified, coked up or just plain fucked in the head Zelensky is that he got IRL trolled by someone like Vance. This is probablly what's been going on behind closed doors for a while they just had a plan to make it public for the world to see and Z took the bait.
 
Fun bit of trivia: Churchill negotiated directly with Stalin over who would control what in the Balkans. Each country was listed on the back of an envelope, along with who would control it. After the war, a chagrined Churchill asked Stalin to burn the envelope, and thus prevent any Greeks or Serbs from knowing how causally their country had been given away. Stalin joked that he would send the incriminating envelope to Churchill's retirement home.

As for any potential Russia/burgerland deals, it's quite possible that the Russians would abide by some agreement. But as any Iranian will happily tell you. the burgers will not.
A reminder that Yugoslavia only got involved in WW2 because the British backed a coup of Serbian Nationalists that broke the alliance made with the Axis powers and promised to station RN and British Army troops in the Balkans, which resulted in them getting invaded, the non-serbian troops largely working with the Germans, and a brutal four year long occupation including a 3 way partisan war only to get sold out to the Soviets anyways.

Never ever make a deal with London if you're west of the Rhine.
 
That's a wrap.

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Trump had one job: Take a weak leader, who is extremely vulnerable and desperate, and make a simple deal revolving around mineral rights in exchange for protection against a country that, frankly, we already fight through proxies anyway and who is a significant threat to democracy. He couldn’t even do that. Even the tariff thing isnt working out, the prices are just being bounced back across borders and there’s new trade agreements being made to cut the US out entirely.

All this fat nigga can do is sit in his office and sign papers about transgenders. What a massive L.
I didn't vote for Trump because I wanted a "mineral deal".
I voted for him to end this Ukraine lunacy.
 
I am not an expert, but I believe Zelensky made a big mistake. He walked into a trap. Trump and Vance have cracked him. It was a classic setup: Vance started being antagonistic with Zelensky, Zelensky pushed back and then Trump joined in and took control of the situation. Also there were US politicians asking questions unfavourable to Zelensky as a backup. This was well thought out beforehand. Even if you hate Trump or disagree with him you have to respect his negotiation skills.
Zelensky clearly listened to the WORST advice possible.

Some faggot who reads too much salon.com
Told him that “Trump only respects strength!” And that he needs to “be firm!”.

Even if he HAD gotten actually good advice though, I still think it would have ended in a similar way. The man is an egomaniac who have been used to having his way 24/7 and having eurocucks and senile shitheads suck up to him.
 
All the eurofags doubling down on twitter. Lmao.
Could you be an absolute bro and share the salt?

I got banned on the free speech platform known as x dot com for hoping the Downie who got put in the meat grinder would be the one to put a bullet in Zelenskyy.


Also Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a rape victim now according to plebbit? My sides are in orbit!

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Isn't this guy just a shit stirring nobody?
No matter if he's in on something. Even if not, he understood his role in this play.
Watching the trump admin do it's thing is like watching shogun - what a showman.
Absolutely surreal (but also corny af).
 
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Alternate Scene:

Zelensky: the blank checks for military aid, whatever happened there.
Trump: [standing up] Alright then
JD Vance: "whatever happened there.?"
Zelensky: my money
JD:[raising his voice] "whatever happened there.?"
JD Vance: [Stands up and points at Tony] I'll tell you what happened: this piece of shit slav tried to rat fuck us on live tv without any provocation, what so ever.
 
Pretty sure he still controls at least enough of the rada members with a mix of bribes and looking the other way, and the thugs in GUR and the central administration.

Really shows what a clown state Ukraine instead of an independent country Ukraine is. “Our foreign sponsors are MAD! Quick! Fire him to appease them!”
 
It would be very... unfortunate if Z man had a little... you know, "grenade accident", on the plane on his way back.
I'm looking forward to the prospect of vengeful Ukies putting in a community effort with axes in the heads of all those fuckers who were white vanning people to their deaths, the mercs and then uploading it to Tik-Tok.
 
There is no mineral in Ukraine. The deal was a farce. Thank God this amazing shenanigan put an end to that dumb idea n
The entire world production of rare earth minerals is worth only about $8 billion annually. They are not especially valuable or rare in the grand scheme of things. It was probably a way of strengthening business ties between the two countries, and putting some burgers in Ukraine.
 
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