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Alot of Americans worship Europe as "smart, sophisticated and morally virtuous"
Rather than smarmy, arrogant, self rightous.
So they believe they'll step up because they're the adults in the room this time!
Zelensky is just delusional and greedy and for the people they're just desperate for any salvation
In my opinion, all Zelenskyy had to do was talk about how Trump is so great and everything would be fine. Instead, he's going out of his way to insult Trump. It's hilarious. I can't believe Zelenskyy blew it like this and the media sycophants saying this is the end of America now is the cherry on top. It really goes to show whose side these journalists are on. If they care so much about Ukraine, they can pick up a rifle and go fight.
 
All I'm saying is at least let Zelensky put on a burger costume and beg for forgiveness.
Zelensky released some nicely worded statement after the meeting but it may not be enough. It'd be one thing if this had all went down behind closed doors but it happened in front of the whole world.
 
I'm not going to lie, this whole thing makes me nervous. Zelensky definitely acted like a giant retard but even retards get second chances, right?

I know the EU is shit, I know there are a bunch of smug assholes in charge that shit on my country all the time while accepting aid, but holy shit I hope there's more to this than just, "Good luck and fuck off". There are people in the EU I happen to like, ones that use this forum. All I'm saying is at least let Zelensky put on a burger costume and beg for forgiveness.
He literally already had a sperg out a few weeks ago doing similar shit as soon as Vance/Rubio left their meeting. This is his second chance and he sperged out again even worse.

He has now lied to us multiple times, ran slander campaigns when deals were agreed upon and now is disrespectful in the oval office.
 
I think being mildly annoyed when your supposed ally treats the war you're struggling to fight like a business deal is more than fair. Not to mention Trump has no leg to stand on when he's called Zelenksy a dictator already.
It's also normal to be mildly annoyed when an ungrateful cokehead lies and acts like no one's done shit to help them.
 
I'm not going to lie, this whole thing makes me nervous. Zelensky definitely acted like a giant retard but even retards get second chances, right?
Do you think this is a fucking romcom or some shit?
And it's not like he just said "Fuck" or something under his breath or just accidentally insulted Trump by miss speaking.
This tard showed up with no suit. Tried to make demands when he had nothing. Tried to talk down to everyone in the room.
I have never seen a diplomatic incident this incompetent. Even when someone is trying to insult someone in a diplomatic setting they employ more tact and decorum.
 
I think being mildly annoyed when your supposed ally treats the war you're struggling to fight like a business deal is more than fair. Not to mention Trump has no leg to stand on when he's called Zelenksy a dictator already.
When you're the head of a pisspot vassal state that's only important because previous regimes have said so, you are in no position to talk to your benefactors like you own them.

America is the global hegemon. It's time she started being treated like one, instead of the thankless bitchwork lackey for an ungrateful world.
 
He was preparing some mud an cow shit patties when the interview started. Mixing with feet is the authentic style.
Have fun dying for ukraine, Europoors!

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Lers see if they have balls to push for a militarization. Eurocucks like talking big and are full of solidarity when they talk, but like with any socialist, that "big heart" turns to nothing once they are expected to act directly. "I'm savagely raped by taxes, the goverment should handle it!".
It seems like it was partly a setup because ll the europoor leaders are putting out statements attacking Trump and sucking of their dictator. We need to cripple the EU.
Aside from this...
how to cripple the EU.

step 1. stop providing military aid to the EU.

congratulations, you have now crippled the EU.
The EU is already doing a fantastic job crippling itself. The only real value Europe brings to the table is as a consumer market, for everything else they are irrelevant, but refuse to get the memo. Aside from some gay operations by the French in Africa they don't have much of an influence anywhere.
 
I'm not European but it's my understanding that many nations in the EU / UK have manpower issues.

As such, a commitment of ground forces in Ukraine may require more troops as a reserve in case the war spirals.

What's the opinion in the UK and EU about a draft of the young adults?
Manpower is just part of the problem. They also have logistical issues as well since they don't have enough guns, artillery, air power, ect. A lot of what Europe uses is American made and needs American authorization to use
 
I'm not going to lie, this whole thing makes me nervous. Zelensky definitely acted like a giant retard but even retards get second chances, right?

I know the EU is shit, I know there are a bunch of smug assholes in charge that shit on my country all the time while accepting aid, but holy shit I hope there's more to this than just, "Good luck and fuck off". There are people in the EU I happen to like, ones that use this forum. All I'm saying is at least let Zelensky put on a burger costume and beg for forgiveness.
He’s gonna come crawling back, this war is over
 
I'm not going to lie, this whole thing makes me nervous. Zelensky definitely acted like a giant retard but even retards get second chances, right?

I know the EU is shit, I know there are a bunch of smug assholes in charge that shit on my country all the time while accepting aid, but holy shit I hope there's more to this than just, "Good luck and fuck off". There are people in the EU I happen to like, ones that use this forum. All I'm saying is at least let Zelensky put on a burger costume and beg for forgiveness.
How is Zelensky shitting the bed for Ukraine bad for the EU? If we had leaders with a shred of dignity they would demand his resignation now and end this charade in the Ukraine.
 
Your entire country was founded on the basis that monarchy is unjust.
Others have replied to your statement about the mistreatment colonists were facing from England, but I'll expand a bit with what little I know: France was predisposed to help the colonies break away from England because France and England were adversaries. If you can discount John Adams' missteps as an ambassador to France, the colonists generally behaved well towards France during their talks. This ties into what happened with Zelensky today.
I pretty much agree with you on this.

AS stated before. Regadless of who you are treat others like you wanted to be treated.

Be resepctful.

What I saw televised at the oval office was pretty damned childish. Very unprofessional and very unbusiness like.

For a man who knows the "art of the deal" Trump was talking out of the side of his asshole. This was fucking ego talking and Vance looked like a pussy lap dog sucking his dick. Good fucking god man. What the hell was that?

The Oval office or the Jerry Springer show I just saw?...


Now let be put on my nigga pants and state the following.

I do NOT give one shit on who you are or how much wealth you have. As stated before I've lost millions because I would not cow down to anyone. No one.

Repect is given and respect can be taken away. And so can your fucking life in many parts of this world, when people diss others not expecing any sort of retaliation.

This is how I survived the dark side of society so many years ago. Getting respect when given. Giving respect as needed. But never bowing down to no one.

So my man, ma Brotha Donald....

Nigga Chair taLking to you about the raw art of the deal...

Nagga Chair is telling ya to...

Don't go Full Retard man...
Never go... FULL RETARD man...
Never go Full RETARD...

Or your enemies will one way or another Do... You... In..

Politically that is...

NIGGA PANTS OFF.
I understand that people want to think that every "underdog" is in the right and therefore should win every war.

There are only two things that are true in any conflict:
1) The only way your cause is legitimate is if you win because ...
2) The victors will dictate what is legitimate.


I think there is a long history of warfare between "Native American" tribes where multiple tribes were wiped out - but the victors survived and no one remembers (at least, prior to the arrival of the Europeans). One particular "Native American" tribe I learned about practiced assimilation - they would kill all but a handful of an opposing tribe and train them to become new members of their tribe - if any of those new members failed to assimilate properly, they'd be killed. Imagine if Americans set those terms now with foreigners.

Zelensky didn't act like a winner nor did he inspire sympathy. He acted like a tyrant dictating terms to a foreign state - he is dependent on this foreign state's good will. When you're in a position like that, you better either have: a) trump (no pun intended) or b) humility and something to trade. He had neither. He came in with expectations and the pissy attitude of a preteen. The only way he gets to call his cause legitimate is if he can win, and he acted like the war (that he worsened over years of drawing this shit out) had been won already.
 
I have never seen a diplomatic incident this incompetent.
Neither have I but that's what this is, a diplomatic incident. A diplomatic incident from an inconsequential fag that just needs to sit down, shut up and sign a piece of paper to fix this giant fucking problem. Obviously he should be thrown into the stocks so people can throw tomatoes at him but I'd like to see that happen after American interests are settled.
 
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