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Insane that the party that hated the Soviet Union during the Cold War is now defending Trump surrendering Europe to Putin.
Imagine being the europe who was enslaved by the USSR and not immediately planning to blast russia into dust upon the collapse of the USSR. The only way to move past the cold war retardation would be to publically slaughter everyone involved with the KGB including Putin as well as every CIA agent. The truth about it as Ralph would say is that there has not been a war in the last 70 years between nations and have instead been wars between alphabet agencies. If you think Putin would be safe from the FSB killing him you're an idiot. The #1 priority for Trump should be the dismantling of intelligence agencies. The cold war was never about nukes, if was about glowies and we need total glowie death worldwide.
 
I don't care if Vance instigated the schism, or that Trump got overly mad about it. This fucking nigger is there to sign a deal for his country's benefit, one of the few ways to have some sort of support. A step towards peace so your populace can stop getting liquidated to prolong an inevitable loss. And he gets a fucking attitude? Fuck the faggot. I'd send him packing and cut off all contact until I heard he either put on sackcloth and ashes and begged for forgiveness, or he got beat to a pulp by the citizens of Ukraine.

When you're in that position you must be humble, take the shit that's flinged at you. Grovel on your fucking knees and do what you're fucking told so that your country doesn't get wiped off the fucking map when the US completely pulls support. You don't get combative and further instigate the issue. The sooner we can memoryhole this piece of shit and forget where Ukraine is on a global map, the better.
Our own allies who aren’t anywhere near the position Zelensky is in are even aware of that!

Look at Keir Starmer, he kissed Trump’s ass and as requested read the King’s invite letter. And if my recollection is right Starmer shittalked Trump when he wasn’t Prime Minister. But he has to deal with Trump no matter how much he hates him, they have to be cordial. Starmer rejected Vance’s allegation that the UK has Free Speech (it doesn’t) but he wasn’t hostile.

Zelenskyy can only hope Europe will back him fully and maybe they will because they hate Trump that much. And really why does it have to be the USA always finding itself dealing with this shit?
 
The fact that Trump was willing to tell (((Zelenskyy))) to fuck off after making further demands should tell you that the "Zion Don" meme is a glowop.
Counterpoint: Zelenski may be a Jew but he's a fucking worm compared to Greatest Ally. Which is what the Zion Don meme is usually about
 
You aren't even exaggerating. This is some Stalin-level propaganda all in lockstep
These people are respectively:
The President of the European Commission
The President of the European Parliament
The President of the European Council
The European Commissioner for Trade

It seems they are fans of coordinated messaging.
 
The fact that Trump was willing to tell (((Zelenskyy))) to fuck off after making further demands should tell you that the "Zion Don" meme is a glowop.
Nah, I was calling him that in the first presidency before even seeing it anywhere else. It was back when people were calling him "teflon Don".
 
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Imagine being such a fucking cretin that you want to send out children to die in war not for the purposes of peace. We already have peace on the table but these absolute animals want to trade more death for "a better bargaining position" .

Trump should push the red states to ratify that amendment where any war is put to a vote and everyone who votes yes is first in list on the draft.
 
I love how history often rhymes.

Following the fall of the Bourbon monarchy during the French Revolution, one of the French Republican factions, the Girondins, sent Edmond-Charles Genêt as envoy to the United States of America to foster support from the Americans to back France against Europe's monarchies. Genêt would recruit American privateers (French-authorized pirate ships) and volunteers based on the commonality that both the United States and France were republics fighting against the "tyranny of monarchy" and that the French Revolution was based on the American Revolutionary War.

However, the President of the United States George Washington was outraged when he heard of Genêt's actions because he was violating the country's Neutrality Proclamation that Washington declared months prior. When war was declared between Great Britain and France, Washington quickly hurried back from a funeral at Mount Vernon to Philadelphia to declare American neutrality in the conflict on the rationale that the United States could not afford another war as the nation was too young and the military too weak to fight against empires. Washington and Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson demanded Genêt to stop, but Genêt would constantly disobey them and ramp up hiring efforts.

Genêt's actions would ultimately do the impossible, in which he united the two rivals, the pro-French Republic Jefferson and the pro-Great Britain Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, to unite and attempt to expel Genêt from the United States. The duo would then assist Washington in writing a 8000-word complaint Genêt to stop hampering American neutrality. Genêt refused and Washington, Jefferson, and Hamilton demanded France to recall Genêt. During this time, the Girondins were annihilated and a rival faction, the Montagnards, demanded Genêt to be recalled to execute him.

Genêt quickly panicked, and asked the United States government for political asylum. Funnily enough, it was the pro-British Cabinet member Hamilton that recommended Washington to accept Genêt as a political refugee to maintain that Americans are keen on forgiveness. In addition, following the execution of King Louis XVI, the United States decided that all agreements with France made during the Revolutionary War are now void because in essence, the French Republican government is not the same, nor a successor, nor as legitimate as the French monarchy that the Americans made deals with.

The United States soon grew closer with Great Britain with the Jay Treaty and France, now outraged, soon launched naval raids against American merchant vessels in retaliation of American support for Britain. The United States soon revived the United States Navy and collaborated with Great Britain against the French. Four (EDIT: Six) years later, France would become a monarchy again under Napoleon Bonaparte.

Scene from HBO's John Adams on the Genêt Affair

Now I wouldn't want to say that that Zelensky would probably be alive by the end of this like Genêt, but here I see Zelensky trying to rally American public opinion to pressure the United States to back Ukraine, of which it would most likely backfire like it did for Genêt. Rallying the idea that the United States and Ukraine are similar nations because of "democracy", "anti-authoritarianism," and "republic" would also most likely backfire as now the idea that Ukraine is a "corrupt dictatorship" is growing among Americans. Compare that to Republican France, which was a de-facto proto-Communist dictatorship that ultimately went back to monarchy, where the idea that America and France should support each other because of similar political foundations collapsed.

As we see Trump attempting to make America more neutral in its foreign affairs, Ukraine will obviously have nothing to gain from the Americans, just like the French did.
 
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Imagine being such a fucking cretin that you want to send out children to die in war not for the purposes of peace. We already have peace on the table but these absolute animals want to trade more death for "a better bargaining position" .

Trump should push the red states to ratify that amendment where any war is put to a vote and everyone who votes yes is first in list on the draft.
He should send pence via kidnapped by spec-ops. Pence when he was running. Was basically crying that we must give Ukraine all our munitions which is why he got knocked off so early from the race other than being boring.
 
I don't know what people want Zelensky to do honestly.

You let your country be invaded to the last man or you put up with Trump belittling you and pretending national politics is another wall street deal.
Are you fuckign serious with this waterheaded retard level question? How about he put on a goddamn suit, act with some goddamn seriousness in front of benefactor. That's step one, treat the US with the goddamn respect we are due. Smile, shake hands and act thankful, give Trump, Vance, Rubio and the other guys in the room full throated verbal blowjobs for being willing to stop Russia from rampaging in his faggot country. Trust that if Trump pulls his ass out of this death spiral his country is on, and plans on takign half his rare earth minerals we will not be having Russia do some stupid shit. If Russia does try to fuck with the US when they are there, the US (and NATO) will rain down shit and fury on Russia.

It's pretty goddamn simple, Zelenksky his fuckign retarded for thinking he can waltz into the White House and call Vance a bitch, and try to Alpha Dog Trump into some bullshit. Nigger needs to realise whoever gave him the advice to try that shit is probably laughing their asses off now that Zelensky was stupid enough to do it.
 
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