Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

First country I could see dropping out of NATO if Trump pulled out would be Hungary. After that, it'd just be a domino effect.
Nah they'd be petty about it and "make nato better than ever". Meaning they'd use it as a platform to launch their empty threats while military spending goes through the floor
 
Man Zelensky must be special needs. How does he not get it. Trump does not want to pursue that deal anymore.
He's gonna have to make a new deal with Trump now lol and Trump is gonna want even more due to Zelensky's tantrum in the oval office. Eurocucks are in for a very bad time.
At this point Trump is better off cutting a deal with Russia.
Trumps problem is not what he gets but that that Zelensky both went back on an agreed deal but also that Zelensky is a retard that completely destroyed any negotiations at all with Putin for the near future.
Unless Z changes his attitude there is no point in continuing, no matter how much resources Z promises him.

A lot of people think that Vance baiting Z was when things went off the rail. They are wrong. When that happened everything had already been destroyed and there were no longer any possibility of any negotiation with Putin.
When you negotiate, you have to have some minimal amount of decorum, even if you absolutely despise the other party. Because without a dialogue you can not even start negotiating.
And Z spending the last 10 minutes before Vance had enough destroying any hope of negotiating.


Z was sitting in the oval office, next to Trump, and to the cameras kept saying Putin is a monster, he is a murderer, he is a terrorist, he belongs in jail, he can not be trusted and no agreement with Putin is possible. Maybe all that shit is true but even so you can not say things like that if you want to negotiate with that person next week. The signal this sends is loud and fucking clear to Putin.
After that sperging, do you really expect Putin to even show up to the negotiation table? What is there to negotiate? Anything? The man fucking said over and over that Putin is a monster and you can not negotiate with him or trust any agreements. Negotiations are pointless. There is no room to negotiate anything anymore.

What the fuck. He has basically torpedoed any possible negotiation by this. This really fucked with Trump and Vance since they now realize that negotiations are impossible and they will have to do a lot of ass kissing to Putin to cover up for this and possibly bring him back to the negotiation table. Because right now Putin rightfully will think that any time he spends on negotiations will be a pointless waste of time.
That is why Trump got so mad. The faggot-dwarf byt using his retardness just torpedoed any chance of having any kind of negotiations.


Trumps issue is not what he gets or doesn't get from Ukraine. Trumps issue is that Z is a loose cannon that by being autistic retard will say shit that will torpedo any negotiations he is involved in. Making Trumps job very difficult.
 
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Sorry if late, but holy shit, combined with the fact that ukies were denied even their meal in favor to feed the staff and told to gtfo... Was there ever something like this in US history? It could be more embarrassing only if Donald flipped them off on their way back.
 
Fighting with the president of the United States, live on TV, while you came to him cap in hand to save your miserable ass, has to be something only the blackest of gorrilla niggers would do.

The dirty secret of Europe is that without American welfare paying for their defense (allowing the various European nations to instead spend their own cash on programs to keep their people docile nigger cattle) and Russia as the last of the big bads, Europe woud still be a warzone with everyone trying to kill each other....
Yes, being weak and pathetic is to the benefit of Europeans, Americans are stupid for having military and diplomatic control over them.
Europe was in a much worse state when it ruled the world with its big dick armies.
 
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This just drives me up a fucking wall. As if some little private nobody has the right to dictate to whom and where we sell our oil. We honestly don't owe Europe (besides Britain for guaranteeing our indepence) shit. It costs me like $10 to take a fucking shower now cause we kotow to the every demand of the EU.

They actually do have the right to refuse refueling a vessel, and should. let them go woke, and shortly after broke. i am sure they have competitors less retarded.

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i think the globalists are salivating at the prospect of having a large country liberated from white supremacy and ready to be colonized by millions of low iq riffraff from turd world countries. Except that even those would prefer to go somewhere else.
How likely is US going to pull out of NATO depending on eurofags react to the fallout on Sunday.
they dont need to pull out of NATO. besides, not sure USA can pull out of NATO, according to the treaty. but all the US has to do is to pull their military, or the big part of it, out. or the majority of it. no obligation under the treaty of keeping military bases abroad.
Fighting with the president of the United States, live on TV, while you came to him cap in hand to save your miserable ass, has to be something only the blackest of gorrilla niggers would do.


Yes, being weak and pathetic is to the benefit of Europeans, Americans are stupid for having military and diplomatic control over them.
Europe was in a much worse state when it ruled the world with its big dick armies.

He actually didnt come cap in hand. he came with the hand out, expecting to get anything he wanted. like those annoying beggars who insult you if you dont give them what they asked.

He wore a fucking zip up track suit too. He looked like an absolute slob.
even the head chopper now in charge of Syria wore a suit to receive german delegation
imagine that. the europeans are pandering and supporting the worst criminals and boast about it like their are heroes of democracy.
no wonder they need to do dishonest shenanigans to stay in power. people hate them. not enough, i say.
 
Are there any examples of soldiers disobeying orders because of their religion in recent history?
In 2002, a Muslim American soldier Sgt. Abdullah Webster refused to deploy in the second Iraq War, claiming a religious scholar had told him serving in the war was against Islamic law. A military court in Virginia convicted Webster of willfully disobeying a direct order by being AWOL. Sauce.
 
Sorry if I derail this thread, there is alot of information to go through.

Can someone send me links that shows proof about human sex trafficking, money laundering, bio-weapons testing and all the other heinous shit that I keep getting mention happening in that country? And Zelensky being some kind of jewish homoerotic, cocaine addict with a heros complex?
lol, you sound like my wife, who asks me how to land an airplane with 20kts crosswind, and expects me to explain it in a max 2 minutes executive summary.
 
Total Azog Death and Total Hohol Seethe.
But not gonna lie, it's going to be sad when China takes cues from this and does a really big funny on Taiwan. RIP. 🇹🇼
This is unrelated to the scope of the thread but I always at least thought Taiwan had some positives compared to the current Ukraine regime, at least they did offer something to the US... Well past tense, I guess.

I'm at least hoping the ol' ROC gets a big ol' dignified yet also quick end. Unlike Ukraine relying on fucking literal Reddit brigades, humiliating the reputation of NATO equipment forever and also somehow having gaslight (((nazis))) into fighting for a Jew's war.
 
Zelensky still being Zelensky.
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Medvedev still being Medvedev
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MI6 still being fuckwits. File this one under "No Shit, Sherlock"
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But the globalists still have a few tricks up their sleeve
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Rather belatedly the IAEA have taken steps not to be the mugs caught in the middle
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More people willing to give their lives for the war.
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