- Joined
- Jan 5, 2021
crazy enough, it also means that sometimes some random ass budget shit gets shoved into that "bill" as well.
Off-Topic MtFs in Women's Sports / Title IX Demolition
- Thread starter Stan
- Start date
-
🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
HalfPint
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Apr 19, 2023
I do not understand how Rep. Seth Moulton of Massachusetts (Democrat) can say the following:
Hope the measure gets passed by the Senate.
(edit: typo)
But still
This makes no sense. I was really hoping Moulton would start a return to sanity in the Democratic party (by example). Why would he vote against it (rhetorical)?
Hope the measure gets passed by the Senate.
(edit: typo)
- Joined
- Feb 15, 2021
This sounds so much like what happens in Australia where members are required to vote via two-party lines. It’s insane. Members should be able to vote by both community lines and personal discretion. But they are not allowed to. If they vote against party lines then they are dis-endorsed and relegated to run as independents at the next election. Footnote, they usually win if they’ve stood up for their electorate rather than the party line.This makes no sense. I was really hoping Moulton would start a return to sanity in the Democratic party (by example). Why would he vote against it (rhetorical)?
Hope the measure gets passed by the Senate.
We want politicians with a conscience, not politicians that tow the party line.
Last edited:
Not Dr. Evil
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 31, 2022
Cross post:
Alexandra O' Crazy O Cortez says that troons are real biological women.
Alexandra O' Crazy O Cortez says that troons are real biological women.
- Joined
- Oct 2, 2017
What the fuck is with fat women, dangerhairs, and troons in roller derby type shit? Does the sport have a history of all-women feminist type vibes, that troons then decided to adopt?
- Joined
- Feb 15, 2021
It’s a power trip, (a bit like boxing is), only in Roller Derby the troons get to trip up and injure multiple women in a short time.
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2018
That’s exactly right, it’s stereotypically a lesbian sport with its own aesthetic and all, so troons flock to it. It also encourages players to have their own roller derby nicknames and personas.
HalfPint
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Apr 19, 2023
I am embarrassed to say there was a point in time that I genuinely looked up to AOC. "I've played co-ed sports"... uh-huh so what
Candidate No 7
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2023
So, is that it in the US?
Trump takes action to ban transgender women from women’s sports (CNN)
Hearing very contradictory takes on what all these EOs really can achieve.
Trump takes action to ban transgender women from women’s sports (CNN)
Hearing very contradictory takes on what all these EOs really can achieve.
- Joined
- Nov 21, 2020
Official order.
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and to protect opportunities for women and girls to compete in safe and fair sports, it is hereby ordered:
Section 1. Policy and Purpose. In recent years, many educational institutions and athletic associations have allowed men to compete in women’s sports. This is demeaning, unfair, and dangerous to women and girls, and denies women and girls the equal opportunity to participate and excel in competitive sports.
Moreover, under Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972 (Title IX), educational institutions receiving Federal funds cannot deny women an equal opportunity to participate in sports. As some Federal courts have recognized, “ignoring fundamental biological truths between the two sexes deprives women and girls of meaningful access to educational facilities.” Tennessee v. Cardona, 24-cv-00072 at 73 (E.D. Ky. 2024). See also Kansas v. U.S. Dept. of Education, 24-cv-04041 at 23 (D. Kan. 2024) (highlighting “Congress’ goals of protecting biological women in education”).
Therefore, it is the policy of the United States to rescind all funds from educational programs that deprive women and girls of fair athletic opportunities, which results in the endangerment, humiliation, and silencing of women and girls and deprives them of privacy. It shall also be the policy of the United States to oppose male competitive participation in women’s sports more broadly, as a matter of safety, fairness, dignity, and truth.
Sec. 2. Definitions. The definitions in Executive Order 14168 of January 20, 2025 (Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government), shall apply to this order.
Sec.3. Preserving Women’s Sports in Education. (a) In furtherance of the purposes of Title IX, the Secretary of Education shall promptly:
(i) in coordination with the Attorney General, continue to comply with the vacatur of the rule entitled “Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Sex in Education Programs or Activities Receiving Federal Financial Assistance” of April 29, 2024, 89 FR 33474, see Tennessee v. Cardona, 24-cv-00072 at 13-15 (E.D. Ky. 2025), and take other appropriate action to ensure this regulation does not have effect;
(ii) take all appropriate action to affirmatively protect all-female athletic opportunities and all-female locker rooms and thereby provide the equal opportunity guaranteed by Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972, including enforcement actions described in subsection (iii); to bring regulations and policy guidance into line with the Congress’ existing demand for “equal athletic opportunity for members of both sexes” by clearly specifying and clarifying that women’s sports are reserved for women; and the resolution of pending litigation consistent with this policy; and
(iii) prioritize Title IX enforcement actions against educational institutions (including athletic associations composed of or governed by such institutions) that deny female students an equal opportunity to participate in sports and athletic events by requiring them, in the women’s category, to compete with or against or to appear unclothed before males.
(b) All executive departments and agencies (agencies) shall review grants to educational programs and, where appropriate, rescind funding to programs that fail to comply with the policy established in this order.
(c) The Department of Justice shall provide all necessary resources, in accordance with law, to relevant agencies to ensure expeditious enforcement of the policy established in this order.
Sec. 4. Preserving Fairness and Safety in Women’s Sports. Many sport-specific governing bodies have no official position or requirements regarding trans-identifying athletes. Others allow men to compete in women’s categories if these men reduce the testosterone in their bodies below certain levels or provide documentation of “sincerely held” gender identity. These policies are unfair to female athletes and do not protect female safety. To address these concerns, it is hereby ordered:
(a) The Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy shall, within 60 days of the date of this order:
(i) convene representatives of major athletic organizations and governing bodies, and female athletes harmed by such policies, to promote policies that are fair and safe, in the best interests of female athletes, and consistent with the requirements of Title IX, as applicable; and
(ii) convene State Attorneys General to identify best practices in defining and enforcing equal opportunities for women to participate in sports and educate them about stories of women and girls who have been harmed by male participation in women’s sports.
(b) The Secretary of State, including through the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs’ Sports Diplomacy Division and the Representative of the United States of America to the United Nations, shall:
(i) rescind support for and participation in people-to-people sports exchanges or other sports programs within which the relevant female sports category is based on identity and not sex; and
(ii) promote, including at the United Nations, international rules and norms governing sports competition to protect a sex-based female sports category, and, at the discretion of the Secretary of State, convene international athletic organizations and governing bodies, and female athletes harmed by policies that allow male participation in women’s sports, to promote sporting policies that are fair, safe, and in furtherance of the best interests of female athletes.
(c) The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall review and adjust, as needed, policies permitting admission to the United States of males seeking to participate in women’s sports, and shall issue guidance with an objective of preventing such entry to the extent permitted by law, including pursuant to section 212(a)(6)(C)(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(6)(C)(i)).
(d) The Secretary of State shall use all appropriate and available measures to see that the International Olympic Committee amends the standards governing Olympic sporting events to promote fairness, safety, and the best interests of female athletes by ensuring that eligibility for participation in women’s sporting events is determined according to sex and not gender identity or testosterone reduction.
Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
(d) If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 5, 2025.
Section 1. Policy and Purpose. In recent years, many educational institutions and athletic associations have allowed men to compete in women’s sports. This is demeaning, unfair, and dangerous to women and girls, and denies women and girls the equal opportunity to participate and excel in competitive sports.
Moreover, under Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972 (Title IX), educational institutions receiving Federal funds cannot deny women an equal opportunity to participate in sports. As some Federal courts have recognized, “ignoring fundamental biological truths between the two sexes deprives women and girls of meaningful access to educational facilities.” Tennessee v. Cardona, 24-cv-00072 at 73 (E.D. Ky. 2024). See also Kansas v. U.S. Dept. of Education, 24-cv-04041 at 23 (D. Kan. 2024) (highlighting “Congress’ goals of protecting biological women in education”).
Therefore, it is the policy of the United States to rescind all funds from educational programs that deprive women and girls of fair athletic opportunities, which results in the endangerment, humiliation, and silencing of women and girls and deprives them of privacy. It shall also be the policy of the United States to oppose male competitive participation in women’s sports more broadly, as a matter of safety, fairness, dignity, and truth.
Sec. 2. Definitions. The definitions in Executive Order 14168 of January 20, 2025 (Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government), shall apply to this order.
Sec.3. Preserving Women’s Sports in Education. (a) In furtherance of the purposes of Title IX, the Secretary of Education shall promptly:
(i) in coordination with the Attorney General, continue to comply with the vacatur of the rule entitled “Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Sex in Education Programs or Activities Receiving Federal Financial Assistance” of April 29, 2024, 89 FR 33474, see Tennessee v. Cardona, 24-cv-00072 at 13-15 (E.D. Ky. 2025), and take other appropriate action to ensure this regulation does not have effect;
(ii) take all appropriate action to affirmatively protect all-female athletic opportunities and all-female locker rooms and thereby provide the equal opportunity guaranteed by Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972, including enforcement actions described in subsection (iii); to bring regulations and policy guidance into line with the Congress’ existing demand for “equal athletic opportunity for members of both sexes” by clearly specifying and clarifying that women’s sports are reserved for women; and the resolution of pending litigation consistent with this policy; and
(iii) prioritize Title IX enforcement actions against educational institutions (including athletic associations composed of or governed by such institutions) that deny female students an equal opportunity to participate in sports and athletic events by requiring them, in the women’s category, to compete with or against or to appear unclothed before males.
(b) All executive departments and agencies (agencies) shall review grants to educational programs and, where appropriate, rescind funding to programs that fail to comply with the policy established in this order.
(c) The Department of Justice shall provide all necessary resources, in accordance with law, to relevant agencies to ensure expeditious enforcement of the policy established in this order.
Sec. 4. Preserving Fairness and Safety in Women’s Sports. Many sport-specific governing bodies have no official position or requirements regarding trans-identifying athletes. Others allow men to compete in women’s categories if these men reduce the testosterone in their bodies below certain levels or provide documentation of “sincerely held” gender identity. These policies are unfair to female athletes and do not protect female safety. To address these concerns, it is hereby ordered:
(a) The Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy shall, within 60 days of the date of this order:
(i) convene representatives of major athletic organizations and governing bodies, and female athletes harmed by such policies, to promote policies that are fair and safe, in the best interests of female athletes, and consistent with the requirements of Title IX, as applicable; and
(ii) convene State Attorneys General to identify best practices in defining and enforcing equal opportunities for women to participate in sports and educate them about stories of women and girls who have been harmed by male participation in women’s sports.
(b) The Secretary of State, including through the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs’ Sports Diplomacy Division and the Representative of the United States of America to the United Nations, shall:
(i) rescind support for and participation in people-to-people sports exchanges or other sports programs within which the relevant female sports category is based on identity and not sex; and
(ii) promote, including at the United Nations, international rules and norms governing sports competition to protect a sex-based female sports category, and, at the discretion of the Secretary of State, convene international athletic organizations and governing bodies, and female athletes harmed by policies that allow male participation in women’s sports, to promote sporting policies that are fair, safe, and in furtherance of the best interests of female athletes.
(c) The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall review and adjust, as needed, policies permitting admission to the United States of males seeking to participate in women’s sports, and shall issue guidance with an objective of preventing such entry to the extent permitted by law, including pursuant to section 212(a)(6)(C)(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(6)(C)(i)).
(d) The Secretary of State shall use all appropriate and available measures to see that the International Olympic Committee amends the standards governing Olympic sporting events to promote fairness, safety, and the best interests of female athletes by ensuring that eligibility for participation in women’s sporting events is determined according to sex and not gender identity or testosterone reduction.
Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
(d) If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 5, 2025.
Nero Fiddled
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 30, 2022
Interestingly disturbing site that lists all the MtF sports cheats with over 5000 entries.
https://www.hecheated.org/results
Bear in mind that these are just results that have become public knowledge and that some colleges have previously threatened students not to talk about it.
https://www.hecheated.org/results
Bear in mind that these are just results that have become public knowledge and that some colleges have previously threatened students not to talk about it.
- Joined
- Jul 1, 2015
A Hawaii columnist is still trying to defend MtFs competing against girls and women in sports. / Archive
His professions are not surprising at all:
And a Leafland MtF Politician defends MtF athletes playing against girls and women, citing himself beating a girl in the age 10-12 category. / Archive
WTF is up with that chin?
His professions are not surprising at all:
And a Leafland MtF Politician defends MtF athletes playing against girls and women, citing himself beating a girl in the age 10-12 category. / Archive
WTF is up with that chin?
countrybumpkin
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 13, 2022
That dude with the chin above didn't even beat a woman, he beat a child!
- Joined
- Feb 15, 2021
Seems Maine High Schools are ignoring Trump’s EO. Not only did this dude take a first place medal from a girl, his win saw his school win the State Championships by one point.
- Joined
- Oct 6, 2021
They're going to have to do without Federal funding then.
Our taxes aren't paying for this shit anymore.
- Joined
- Feb 15, 2021
Trump warned the Governor of Maine yesterday. Her response was “See you in court then.” Maine are also saying that they will continue to provide gender affirming care for minors. They are acting like Federal Laws don’t apply to them.
- Joined
- Dec 28, 2014
Executive orders aren't federal laws. Anything that isn't strictly within Article II Presidential powers is inferior to federal laws. So I guess it depends how much actual discretionary power Congress gave when it enacted whatever statutes are in question.
Congress can definitely pass laws that strip federal funding. South Dakota v. Dole, 483 U.S. 203 (1987) (Congress has the power to strip federal highway funding from states that do not raise drinking age to 21). It is fairly unlikely the President can do that by pure diktat.
So I'd say it comes down to what statutory authority he has to do that, since it isn't clearly within Article II powers.
- Joined
- Oct 6, 2021
The Founders were pretty smart the way they delineated the powers between branches. They'd just fought a war against a tyrannical Government and were understandably wary about the potential for creating another one.
That said I don't think Trump is going to have much of an issue on this one, he's got one of the strongest mandates since Reagan beat Mondales brakes off in '84, the Senate, House and the popular vote shows most of the population supports this shit being stopped.
If people like the various Governors of Maine, New York, and Illinois are relying on the Courts to let them keep the fucked status quo they've been running they'll probably be dissapointed, the EO's that have been challenged so far have been upheld. I think the EO's are just a stopgap anyway until Congress puts them into law, they tried to stop the Laken Riley Act and that got put through surprisingly quickly.
I think Janet is going to be disappointed if she's counting on the Courts to let her keep allowing men to cheat their way onto scoreboards.
- Joined
- Feb 9, 2013
Huh. His article is criticizing a woman who I assume has some kind of Polynesian ancestry, Sia Liilii.A Hawaii columnist is still trying to defend MtFs competing against girls and women in sports. / Archive
His professions are not surprising at all:
Wow, now personally I don't give a shit about the woke racial nonsense, but surely if you're coming in on that side of the coin, I'd have thought it wouldn't be OK to be some beardy white dude criticizing an indigenous woman in Hawaii.
I guess troonery overrules that?
Rogue AI
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Dec 12, 2022
The Australian government released pro troon in women's sports propaganda. The women probably look happy and inclusive because they realize their team will win with a troon that's twice the size of their opponents.