Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
Here’s a question, what does the US gain by having this war go on? Only reply if you are an American whose taxes have been funding the war, funding their government to function, and paying Ukrainian pensions (I’d like to thank you)
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Weapons testing against an actual military, testing NATO tactics in a real world scenario, gauging the actual capabilities of Russian forces, and hard testing US/NATO logistics in an emergency.
Not only does all of that not affect the American people, but NATO (US included) is not learning a single lesson being taught in Ukraine. The war could have went far smoother if NATO day 1 started to revaluate all its capabilities instead of getting lose up its own ass with propaganda. Especially for our weapons, which for decades before the war, were advertised to literally vaporize the Russia/Chinese military on sight thus why they cost insane amounts of money.
 
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clipartfan92 said:
“The PM will bring people together and politely make sure they realise that there is only one negotiation in town — and that’s President Trump’s.”
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Even if we join together, we are too weak to face russia
clipartfan92 said:
in the meantime, Europe would be spearheading the diplomacy on Kyiv’s behalf.
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Zelenskyy is too much of an autist retard to talk to people
clipartfan92 said:
What Ukraine needs now is guns and butter
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So not only are we financing the army, weapons, burocrats, and gov employees, we also need to pay the food
 
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make_it_so said:
These are Europeans we're talking about.

Best part of that is MIC types can't really complain.

With what? If I recall correctly, the UK shuttered the plants that make tanks and self-propelled artillery a little over a decade ago in order to create corporate office parks. The UK doesn't even have it's own small arms arsenals anymore.

Even if they were to suddenly stop being retarded and start the process to reverse this, it will take years for things to get up and running again.
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Don't forget any new industry now would need to be environmentally friendly and check all the other retarded boxes. It could easily be decades before they manage to produce at any volume that matters.
 
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Caligura said:
Also, iirc a Polish soldier not too long ago got killed by a fucking migrant with a knife. I don't know if a EU army can handle fighting against just Belarus, let alone Russia...
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To be more specific, a makeshift poisoned spear. That's what pushed the current apparent "pozzed globohomo" parliament to push a law that allows Polish border guards and other military units to use live ammo to shoot the fuckers dead.
 
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