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[Jotch]

Drunk drivers do not deserve their reputation. The problem peoole are the drunk crashers.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

and not the based alcoholics who are in favour of drunk driving.

The most oppressed race being drunk drivers.

God's drunkest drivers RISE UP

 

[quaawaa]

78 out of 466k.
oof that's a poor visitor rate 0.0167%

Without their USAID money, they’re nothing.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Why does facebook insist on shoving this retarded gay shit in my face

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

We talked about this "different places = different population densities" already but I've decided to hit the maps and...

Someone forgot to mention an extensive road system that includes a big ring road
And this system of a city surrounded by a big circular road is pretty common solution in old euro cities

 

[indomitable snowman]

Without their USAID money, they’re nothing.

Whereas we are at 3739/126,721 or 2.95%

Proving once again: private enterprise (and cars) > government institutions (and bike cucks)

We talked about this "different places = different population densities" already but I've decided to hit the maps and...
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Someone forgot to mention an extensive road system that includes a big ring road
And this system of an city surrounded by a big circular road is pretty common solution in old euro cities

And it's not like houston doesn't have dense parts and transit

Hey look lots of apartments and even a tram line right next to it.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

And it's not like houston doesn't have dense parts and transit
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Hey look lots of apartments and even a tram line right next to it.

Nah, you must be lying to me, only Europe has trams and trees and big flats

 

[Yamamura]

Without their USAID money, they’re nothing.

I've also noticed urbanism less in the youtube algorithm for me. I wonder if it's dying off in favor of the new current thing.

Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those accounts are bots or inactive accounts.

 

[Kiska]

Without their USAID money, they’re nothing.

Maybe since taxpayer money won't be going to USAID slop they'll finally build out a few dozen feet in the world's only high-speed railroad without a single mile of usable track, right in the heart of California.

 

[quaawaa]

Wikipedia implies that Amsterdam has a small amount of office space relative to its population because of a city-level land value tax making it more attractive to invest in the suburbs:

Although many small offices remain along the historic canals, centrally based companies have increasingly relocated outside Amsterdam's city centre. Consequently, the Zuidas (English: South Axis) has become the new financial and legal hub of Amsterdam, with the country's five largest law firms and several subsidiaries of large consulting firms, such as Boston Consulting Group and Accenture, as well as the World Trade Centre (Amsterdam) located in the Zuidas district. In addition to the Zuidas, there are three smaller financial districts in Amsterdam:

• around Amsterdam Sloterdijk railway station. Where one can find the offices of several newspapers, such as De Telegraaf. as well as those of Deloitte, the Gemeentelijk Vervoerbedrijf (municipal public transport company), and the Dutch tax offices (Belastingdienst);
• around the Johan Cruyff Arena in Amsterdam Zuidoost, with the headquarters of ING Group;
• around the Amstel railway station in the Amsterdam-Oost district to the east of the historical city. Amsterdam's tallest building, the Rembrandt Tower, is located here. As are the headquarters of Philips, the Dutch multinational conglomerate. Amsterdam has been a leading city to reduce the use of raw materials and has created a plan to become a circular city by 2050.

The adjoining municipality of Amstelveen is the location of KPMG International's global headquarters. Other non-Dutch companies have chosen to settle in communities surrounding Amsterdam since they allow freehold property ownership, whereas Amsterdam retains ground rent.

Zuidas, Amsterdam's main business district, is tiny compared to American office districts:

Half the buildings also look like apartment towers (due to the balconies).

For comparison, Seattle is around the same population and look at the difference

Granted, Seattle does have a lot of condo towers, but still, it dwarfs Amsterdam. Seattle does have a higher metro population, but that includes Tacoma and beyond, which is the equivalent of including the entire Randstad in Amsterdam's population.

Seattle's secondary business district is also much larger:


Can any Dutch people confirm?

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

I really don’t get where car dependency factors into this. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen “Wehhh, suburbs make the kids depressed!” Whenever I see that, I just think about the horrible upbringings my parents both had in a major city and how they moved to the suburbs to give my brother and I a better life.

Doctor Poo Poo Head apparently thinks that all those trees form an impassible barrier like in the mainline Pokémon games.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The Sims 3 included cars in the Base Game that have more use (although less detailed than TS2 since you just appear in your car to drive to your destination like a World of Warcraft mount, compared to how you back your car out of the driveway and then drive off the lot in TS2) since TS3 is an open-world game.

The Sims 3 did a lot more than that. In their fast lane expansion not only they add more cars, but they allow you to waste lot space on building proper garages and even make your Sims properly car brained by having them to build an actual relationship with their car. IIRC they even added the car relationships mechanic to the base game. Truely a dark time for urbanists gamers...

 

[Bonesjones]

I really don’t get where car dependency factors into this. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen “Wehhh, suburbs make the kids depressed!” Whenever I see that, I just think about the horrible upbringings my parents both had in a major city and how they moved to the suburbs to give my brother and I a better life.

If they started blaming their extremely online crybully personalities for their social retardedness, they'd get cut down and cut out of any fake socialization they've built up online, so they transfer it onto socially acceptable targets (remember no bad tactics only bad targets). Why stick up or together with anyone when that's a liability and not a virtue?

 

[florida_cat_enjoyer]

Why does facebook insist on shoving this retarded gay shit in my face

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I saw a random post from a city I don’t even live in about how they added multiple new bus routes. Do you want to guess the comments? They were all complaining about how “every 15 minutes is not enough” or that “adding just two is not sufficient.”

You absolutely cannot reason with these people.

 

[Yamamura]

I really don’t get where car dependency factors into this

It's funny they don't address why socialization was higher in the 80s. Do they think that suburbs were a new invention that didn't exist until now?

Kids used to live on farms where your neighbor could be miles away from you and still managed to actually have friends.

> be teen in New York
> go outside
> get stabbed
> go on to subway
> get set on fire
> park bike
>gets stolen
> "Thank God I don't live in the suburbs"

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Wikipedia implies that Amsterdam has a small amount of office space relative to its population because of a city-level land value tax making it more attractive to invest in the suburbs:

That's one reason why the whole "land value"-based thinking isn't what makes a good city. Without getting into specifics like how urbanists want to rewrite the tax code so that parking lots in downtown areas can't exist (due to how "improvements" on land like a building is taxed more, etc.), if the land is expensive it limits what you can build there.

The higher land value is, the higher you have to price for rent. Building a luxury apartment building in the downtown area with renters who will pay top dollar makes financial sense. Outside of the "well, we'll make X units as affordable housing" (good luck getting on that list!) stipulations, there will never, ever be a point where new units in the heart of the city will be within affordable range for your typical just-out-of-college person, even if you had a real job that provided real income.

The cope is that supply and demand will lower the costs of those units, but that only means you'll trade up, and where the most affordable housing will be won't be in the heart of the city, it will be in crummy apartment buildings located several miles out from the city core.

Obviously you don't have to live in the worst of the worst housing but none of that is going to be in the true "heart" of the city. I've mentioned before that the housing crisis has caused some Interstate motels to be converted into studio apartments. They're about as "car-oriented" as you can get, with often no access to side streets, and not near anything (and in a good number of these cases, don't venture into the nearby to the neighborhoods, it's not good). Maybe if you're lucky you can walk to a nearby restaurant or gas station along the highway frontage road.

 

[FamicomGorby]

“adding just two is not sufficient.”

Just one more bus bro.

Their fake "induced demand" only applies to cars and no other form of transportation.

 

[Jhonson the Two]

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I really don’t get where car dependency factors into this. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen “Wehhh, suburbs make the kids depressed!” Whenever I see that, I just think about the horrible upbringings my parents both had in a major city and how they moved to the suburbs to give my brother and I a better life.
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Doctor Poo Poo Head apparently thinks that all those trees form an impassible barrier like in the mainline Pokémon games.

Teens and children always find something to do when hanging out, their lack of imagination is showing.
Also parties in countryside are fire and you can't change my mind .

 

[Jotch]

Urbanists fail to understand that the environment you are comfortable with is the one you are raised in.
Those raised in an urban environment will of course find the rural setting intimidating due to isolation.
Just as those raised in a rural environment will find the urban setting intimidating due to overcrowding.

They must understand these these two components are both important to any functional nation, and hold different traditions and require different governance. Attemping to force the will of either side by the other is a terrible idea.

They also should think of children as a product of their families. The children of another family should not be expected to be raised in accordance with your standards. Amish children are an excellent example of this.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

This looks bad-ass, too bad the trees will probably be all developed someday.

Kids used to live on farms where your neighbor could be miles away from you and still managed to actually have friends.

You know what the real difference is? You had friends that weren't exactly like you. You were friends with those around you, even if the kids at the farm on one side were older and the kids on the other side were younger. You were friends with those you had access to, even if you were different in any number of ways.

City people but bugmen especially need all their friends to be identical carbon copies of each other. And the only way you can do that is by having tons of people, or be online.