US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

I do think we are heading for an economic crash. Not because of Trump. The problems that caused the 2020 economic shitshow across the globe have not been addressed. Not even delayed and Trump could move mountains and it wouldn't stop it because this is a problem not of the US but of the whole international trade system.
I think that Trump knows this and is simply trying to poke a hole in everyone else's boat with his tariffs so when the flood waters hit USS Murica will be more above water than everyone else.

 

[Gregis]

The Atlanta Fed GDP outlook.

For anyone curious, their model is purely objective: they have a mathematical model, they plug in the latest economic data, and they report the result. They are not fucking with this to make Trump look bad. That said, the output is obviously subject to the quality of data going in. It's definitely above my paygrade to actually evaluate this.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

A lot of US GDP is based on deficit spending. The only way to address the deficit is to reduce government spending, or increase taxes, both of which will reduce GDP.

So why is the economy contracting so rapidly when Republicans have done nothing but pass a budget proposal which dramatically increases the deficit?

And you are saying they are high because of Trump?

No, I'm saying that even if we use other metrics, the economy is still shit. I can forgive GDP contractions if the cost of living contracts with it, but that's not what we're seeing, we're seeing less money coupled with still higher costs.

How often are they right?

If they said the sky was green I'd at least look up to check.

Right, so how are you not going to see GENERALIZED inflation when inflation is built into the issuance of currency?

It’s concerning when it DOESN’T track with the prime rate.

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What the fuck are you talking about? What you posted has nothing to do with the prime rate. The US prime rate is 7.5% and the UIG is STILL tracking 0.3% month over month and is hovering around 3% for the year.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

This is an example of exactly why I think you might be right in the short term. Imagine if the government actually invested in small business, just 1% of that aid to Ukraine could easily expand a small business so they don't have to charge you 20 bucks per pound. I'm sure there are plenty of examples of it, the American consumer deserves the high prices sometimes; for just being fuckin' retarded.

There's only so many crises that you can put on the consumer's back before it breaks. Housing is already crushing people and expanding the cost-of-living crisis further will not benefit anyone in the short or long term. You cannot expect for the population to pursue innovation or to contribute effectively to domestic markets when they cannot feed or house themselves. USA does not need more severe short-term pains right now.

 

[TrinityReformed]

All those bitching about the Line have less spine than Argentinians, imo. It took months before Milei's policies bore fruit. Shameful, absolutely shameful.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Mark my words: America will regret this. DON’T. MESS. WITH. CANADA!!

You're right! Just let it rot without intervention. When the population freezes because the politicians ban any form of heating, we can claim the resources for ourselves.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

The 2008 economic paradigm was basically prolonging the inevitable. The 2020 recession onwards has basically left the entire world economy on life support. The only way to fix it is to kill it. Autocratic states can better react to this as a cooler head can prevail while democracies will sink with the ship due to the crab mentality in democratic politics.

 

[Clotso Coof]

going really hard on Canada's diary quota system that protects Canadian farmers from cheap American milk flooding it's markets.

The Virgin Canadian milk bag vs the Chad American milk carton.

 

[FieldPiece]

Try to post when you're less drunk on Listerine.

Hey man he's not that low class. He prefers a good ole' Dimetapp daqueri or somedays a Scope & Coke.

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That’s how the USSR entered into starvation.

NOT MY BOOMER JEW ROULETTE TABLE I'M RUINED!

No they didn't retard. I'm pretty sure Trump isn't collectivising the farms, killing all the farmers, then ordering the farmers to crowd all their crops because "plants fighting for nutrients is capitalist propaganda". Nor is he killing all the sparrows and giving all the excess grain to the Russians for steel. GO TO THE BRAIN GYM BRAINLET

 

[invisibult plus+]

To add to the coffee sperging, I used to prefer Colombian before spreading out to Sumatran, Nicaraguan, etc. To an extent, I think the way it’s prepared matters more than its origin. However, the tariffs add a hidden incentive for companies to invest in GMOs, which people aren’t paying enough attention to. AI is too shiny and new and distracting right now, but everyone here who’s heard the words “MRNA vax” knows how powerful genetic modification can be.

This is not financial or investment advice, the stock market is a glorified casino.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

The 2008 economic paradigm was basically prolonging the inevitable. The 2020 recession onwards has basically left the entire world economy on life support. The only way to fix it is to kill it. Autocratic states can better react to this as a cooler head can prevail while democracies will sink with the ship due to the crab mentality in democratic politics.

Yes because if there's one think I consider Trump, it's a "cool head." Jesus Christ.

 

[whoishomermynameis]

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Yes because if there's one think I consider Trump, it's a "cool head." Jesus Christ.

You are dumb

 

[AllieKat]

Why drink coffee when cocaine is around?

 

[A Cardboard Box]

So seriously though, what is everyone's opinion on Trump scamming Americans with his bullshit coins?

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

Didn't I make the same point? You are self sufficient by raw numbers, but much of that production is meant for livestock, not humans. You cannot keep a healthy and happy population on corn, soy and beets alone, especially if half of it is inedible. California alone cannot sustain the demand for fruits, vegetables and other agricultural goods. I for one don't want to live solely off corn cobs and an occasional apple as a luxurious treat.

You're a retard. We produce a ton of beef and dairy which is a fantastic foundation to a nutritious diet. The only thing you need to add on top of that is some seasonal and root vegetables, and seasonal fruit to keep it interesting all of which we can grow. Plus some bread and other grains if you want.
We will be perfectly fine.

 

[Gog & Magog]

To add to the coffee sperging, I used to like Colombian before spreading out to Sumatran, Nicaraguan, etc. To an extent, I think the way it’s prepared matters more than its origin. However, the tariffs add a hidden incentive for companies to invest in GMOs, which people aren’t paying enough attention to. AI is too shiny and new and distracting right now, but everyone here who’s heard the words “MRNA vax” knows how powerful genetic modification can be.

This is not financial or investment advice, the stock market is a glorified casino.

The only people who hate GMOs are enlightened internet schizos and dang dirty hippies.

 

[TrinityReformed]

So seriously though, what is everyone's opinion on Trump scamming Americans with his bullshit coins?

My opinion is that he's an old man that doesn't understand crypto.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

What the fuck are you talking about? What you posted has nothing to do with the prime rate. The US prime rate is 7.5% and the UIG is STILL tracking 0.3% month over month and is hovering around 3% for the year.

Oh really? No way! Maybe that’s because we had like 9% inflation a minute ago under Biden and the fed is trying to guide shit to a soft landing

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

I saw this, laughed, decided to post.