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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Drihten]

Was he too based? I don’t xeet so I can’t see the answers

Reform posted this statement regarding the matter:

However I believe it was because he questioned Farage's leadership, as well as the fact that he seemed to be eclipsing him in popularity, which ultimately made him anathema. These accusations came RIGHT after he made such comments.

 

[The Gene Genie]

Was he too based? I don’t xeet so I can’t see the answers

He’s been bucking against Farage (who intended Reform to be a publicity stunt/grift machine like UKIP and never intended to actually win) and Zia (who bought his way into the party) and they’re trying to kick him out. He’s too popular for Farage’s ego and flying too close to the remigration crowd for Zia, so he’s got to go.

Farage has been tempering down on the rhetoric for a while now. Does anyone recall that he went on that podcast/radio show and said that we’ve basically just got to accept that the Pakis are here to stay and will become the majority, and reorient to “British values” or something?

 

[TrinityReformed]

He’s been bucking against Farage (who intended Reform to be a publicity stunt/grift machine like UKIP and never intended to actually win) and Zia (who bought his way into the party) and they’re trying to kick him out. He’s too popular for Farage’s ego and flying too close to the remigration crowd for Zia, so he’s got to go.

Farage has been tempering down on the rhetoric for a while now. Does anyone recall that he went on that podcast/radio show and said that we’ve basically just got to accept that the Pakis are here to stay and will become the majority, and reorient to “British values” or something?

I'm still astounded and dismayed at how fucked you guys are in political party choices.

 

[Malikov]

Yeah it's obviously Farage trying to get rid of him the grifting cunt.

 

[Lemures Primata]

I'm still astounded and dismayed at how fucked you guys are in political party choices.

Unfortunately, as many suspected, Reform have revealed themselves to be yet another right-wing containment party. Rupert Lowe is far too based for Reform and his views are considered to be highly dangerous to the current political establishment we have.

We are the best country in the world at right-wing containment.

I also see Reform have referred Rupert Lowe to the police. I fully expect him to be prosecuted and made an example of.

 

[A-Logato]

10 years for how many rapes? Absolutely disgusting, though not surprising given his connections. If London allow China to build their “mega-embassy” then we will truly be fucked, if not more.

Walk around Manchester and you'll see a ton of Chinese nationalists there. They've even got their own national bank and CCP headquarters set up and everything.

It's no surprise that this chink pretty much got away with it and that lets be honest here, he's not doing 10 years of this sentence. Chinas the only country that tolerates the UK because for what ever reason our politicians keep sucking up to it. Starmer does so, so much that if it comes out that he was a Chinese psy op then I wouldn't be at all surprised.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I hate being right again. I tell people Farage is just a grifter who turns every party he joins into a personal vanity project and they look at me like I'm stupid. "He's been consistent in his message for years", they always say, as if consistently saying the things that get him the most attention and money somehow makes him not a grifting egotist. He never wanted brexit. He never wanted Reform to be a viable party. He wanted to get into Parliament, make a few bombastic speeches, and collect another pension, just like he did with his UKIP grift at the europarl. He doesn't want change; he wants his ego tickled.

 

[Quintex96]

In most euro countries you can pay fifty euro, and take a ticket and be seen for stitches or a sore thrust pretty fast.

A what?

 

[Otterly]

A what?

Throat. I swear my autocorrect is sentient and shitposting all by itself…

 

[Kier Starmer]

The level of rage I have is insurmountable, I cannot type it because it would be a fedpost, the second time this week.

 

[A-Logato]

I hate being right again. I tell people Farage is just a grifter who turns every party he joins into a personal vanity project and they look at me like I'm stupid. "He's been consistent in his message for years", they always say, as if consistently saying the things that get him the most attention and money somehow makes him not a grifting egotist. He never wanted brexit. He never wanted Reform to be a viable party. He wanted to get into Parliament, make a few bombastic speeches, and collect another pension, just like he did with his UKIP grift at the europarl. He doesn't want change; he wants his ego tickled.

Being saying this for months, if not years now, I really dislike Nigel. Everything he's ever done is all about him and him alone and everything he's ever been attached to is just a personal cult of personality and Reforms been no different. From kicking out anyone who was slightly right wing or edgy to capitulating to foreigners (Populism for me but not for thee when ever he talks to Trump).

I was only just barely willing to vote for Reform since a vote for Ukip is a meme and every other party is far left but now I don't even want to vote Reform ever again after kicking Rupert Lowe and the way they've gone about it such as blocking his replies on Twitter when he's responded to the allegations and the fact that as soon as he was critical of Nigel, all these allegations come out about him and they give him the boot.

Reform is not going to win next election, polls are a meme and Nigel is the worst thing to happen to the right in English political history.

 

[Lemures Primata]

Being saying this for months, if not years now, I really dislike Nigel. Everything he's ever done is all about him and him alone and everything he's ever been attached to is just a personal cult of personality and Reforms been no different. From kicking out anyone who was slightly right wing or edgy to capitulating to foreigners (Populism for me but not for thee when ever he talks to Trump).

I was only just barely willing to vote for Reform since a vote for Ukip is a meme and every other party is far left but now I don't even want to vote Reform ever again after kicking Rupert Lowe and the way they've gone about it such as blocking his replies on Twitter when he's responded to the allegations and the fact that as soon as he was critical of Nigel, all these allegations come out about him and they give him the boot.

Reform is not going to win next election, polls are a meme and Nigel is the worst thing to happen to the right in English political history.

Unfortunately this is all true. If Reform were serious, they could have already completely demolished the current government, with the Southport situation, Keir Starmer gift scandal, rape gang scandal, poor budget, and many other issues to point at.

Also, apart from Rupert Lowe, the majority of the people involved with Reform are deluded incompetent boomers. Hopefully Lowe forms his own party with other like-minded politicians.

 

[A-Logato]

Unfortunately this is all true. If Reform were serious, they could have already completely demolished the current government, with the Southport situation, Keir Starmer gift scandal, rape gang scandal, poor budget, and many other issues to point at.

Also, apart from Rupert Lowe, the majority of the people involved with Reform are deluded incompetent boomers. Hopefully Lowe forms his own party with other like-minded politicians.

I've argued with many Reform MP's, mostly in real life and almost every time it's some boomer who some how thinks Reform is a centerist party and that they "have to play by the book". If you want to throw them into a tism then just ask them why they kicked out multiple members based on reports from the ADL, an openly left wing and admitted communist group.

TLDR I hope the next milkshake thrown at Farage has acid in it.

 

[Drihten]

The boomers aren't happy. (Link)

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

High up Britcuck advisor to the US is saying civil war is less then 5 years away in Britbongistan.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Pretty serious happening, all things considered. Lowe himself telling people not to leave Reform suggests this has a while to go yet - best case scenario, party reforms itself after realising they're making a big error.

Likely scenario, they close ranks and despair continues.

 

[Smyrna]

I actually feel somewhat optimistic. Maybe that's silly.

Rupert is not like all the others that Farage has kneecapped in the past. He is independently rich, he has a decent media profile (not at Farage's level, but better than most other backbench MPs), he is already an MP and could probably hold the seat as an independent or as a member of another party. There are no known skeletons in his closet - if there were, Reform would have hit him with that rather than the spurious nonsense Yusuf came out with. Rupert's not fading away and if Farage wants him as an enemy, then he won't be able to simply ignore him. He is in a much stronger position than e.g. Ben Habib was.

On top of that is the link to Musk. If Rupert founds a new party or joins an existing one, there is the possibility it will come with funding supplied, which would automatically put that party over the top of every other right-of-centre party in the UK. It wouldn't be a rehash of Andrew Bridgen joining Reclaim.

And the general picture in the country won't change. People who are fed up now aren't going to stop being fed up, or cowed into changing their minds. Things aren't going to get better between now and 2029, and Labour will carry that can. The Tories are not going to suddenly get their act together and attract back all the people who have turned to Reform - even if Badenoch is defenestrated at the first opportunity and Jenrick takes over, he will be hamstrung by exactly the same facts as Badenoch; the Tory talent pool is very shallow and over half the parliamentary party are wets. He's not as lazy as she is, but does he have the courage to play chicken with them and force them out before they force him out? I doubt it.

I think a Lowe-driven party, if it comes to pass, can attract more talent than Reform could, precisely because it won't have the problem of the party needing to be Nigel and friends. Some people talk about Jenrick and Braverman and others joining Reform - I don't think they ever would, because it would mean playing second banana to Farage and deferring to him on everything. Should they be encouraged to defect? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they are too tainted by their presence in the last government. But the point is that people with the ability to think and plan ahead (hopefully) wouldn't be stymied in a Lowe party the way they would in Reform, which would be a distinct advantage for any such party.

I do hope that, somehow, they can thrash it all out and that Farage finally accepts that if Reform want to be considered a serious party of government, it cannot be all about him. But if not, there's over 4 years to go and I am not resigned to the Uniparty staying on top, yet.

 

[Lemures Primata]

Are the Homeland Party decent at all? They seem to be the only party in the UK that is committed to remigration.

 

[GratsTheat783]

I found that Rupert Lowe thing pretty fishy when I first saw it, immediately suspended for "bullying" after he challenged Nigel Farage. If they kick Rupert out of the party, will they have to redo the elections in that area? Out of interest, why do a lot of you dislike Nigel? I've heard general sayings about him, but not much specific other than him being a grifter, being a banker and leaving UKIP then decrying it as racist. Do you agree with Labour's claim that he only wears the British flag to his own benefit?

 

[Kier Starmer]

Nigel is a snake and a self-flagellating ego-driven prick. He kills everything he touches because he is void of any ideals or moral compass. Lowe was correct and other commentators on YouTube like Lotus-eaters and independents have been saying this for a while, Rupert just said the quiet part.

Ask yourself this How can you be a party about changing the political and cultural establishment AND HAVE A FUCKING MUSLIM AS A CHAIRMAN. I feel this was something Rupert challenged and called lunatic and he was backstabbed because of it.

Farage does not want change and never does, he wants power and now that he is not in Trump's good books he knows that grift in the US is fucked. Reform was his second project and he is pissed that he is not regarded as Jesus. Since Brexit I have disliked this prick and he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This fucker would be like Starmer and reneg EVERYTHING he promised.

I was going to say about the Civil unrest advisor because I think that shit is coming this year, Southport was merely an echo.

@GratsTheat783 One of the most remotely honest things Starmer has said. Yes, he was doing it for his benefit to sow seeds but he was correct.