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In addition to those poorest excuses of "sexual assault" I've seen, you're supposed to #metoo White men/White-passing Jews. Neil "Science Nig" Degrass Tyson can play the race card and it looks like it was successful.
don't even need to play the race card, that probably happened to most of the male population. first point is debatable, but everyone made someone uncomfortable once and crashed getting pussy, most of the time most likely.

and then foids get pissy when men follow the pence strategy of never being alone with one...

Trump should stay out of Iran. There's a highly militarized population of 70 million, a mountainous terrain but most importantly, Shia Muslims aren't committing terrorist attacks in the West. Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS are(all Sunni). Ukraine has fucked with the first Trump presidency and his candidacy far more and he's not looking to bomb them, just reduce some not even all of their aid. I'm not saying Iran should be an ally or something but invading it would be absolutely pointless and disastrous.
he didn't say US military. and like @FILTH Tourist said that's just the opening bid.
even if he decides to go in it's more likely another salami missile and support either via money or hardware.

Some memes are eternal others are as ephemeral as a fart in a hurricane.
pestposting will always be funny tho
 
Even if they never use it, any Islamic state that gains nuclear weapons will have them pointed towards the west. It's just completely antithetical to our way of life to give muslims that kind of political leverage.

I've already lost sleep knowing India has a huge arsenal. Judgement day will be on 7/11!
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Reminds me of Sweden instituting a strict procedure for police escalation of force and how it ended with more offenders and police getting killed.

When the person with the authority to use violence spends enough time trying to convince the feral that they *really really* don't want to kill them, the feral eventually believes it and thinks that it means he *won't* kill them.

Meanwhile, the people who actually fight and die for a living know that the trick to ending a conflict or threat to become VIOLENT ENOUGH, FAST ENOUGH. You need to shock their nigger-brain and cow them into surrender through preparation, speed, and violence of action..
Sometimes you have to purposely esculate a situation in order to de-escalate it.
 
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Don’t forget Iran is the sponsor of terrorism like the Houthis who has been a thorn on the side of the Saudis. No one is even aware of the War in Yemen.

It’s a red herring that the Middle East boils down to Israel & USA vs Sandpeople. America wants the Arab States to be aligned with the USA while Russia & Iran want that disrupted.

Terrorism against the Saudis, doesn't really sound that bad, given what groups the Saudis fund in return.

Given the Saudis opened up relations with the fine gentlemen running the HTS government in Syria.
 
Man, it sure sucks how this free falling economy is making it less expensive to put gas in my truck, getting me bigger pay checks, and letting me feed my family for less money. I'm never voting for Trump again.
Remember when Trump would routinely brag about Stock Market highs. I remember an insightful tweet from a liberal (I think it was Obama’s speech writer Jon Favreau) and he claimed that the Obama admin resisted bragging about the Stock Market because it wasn’t a be all end all indicator of good times.

Fast forward 4 years later and Biden’s admin routinely bragged about the Stock Market. It’s baffling how out of touch the Democratic Party has become in such a relatively short period of time. The voters they need largely don’t have stock portfolios, I’m blessed that I do but I have to pretend the money isn’t mine for the next several decades otherwise I’d spend like a drunken sailor.
 
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Apparently some Ukraine protesters decided to spend their Saturday harassing Vance and his 3 year old today.
InB4 Reddit lefties start screaming about Vance talking about his daughter like she was a dog.

"You don't 'walk' your daughter; you take her on a walk! Reeeeee! This can only mean he dehumanises people and thus wants to murder all transfolx!"
 
I'll never understand these psychopaths. How is wanting illegals out of my job pool and trannies out of womens' spaces the same as "an open invitation for me to be violent" against them? You are the retards acting like there are LITCHERAL lynch mobs roving in the streets. I have yet to see a single one, and retards like this fail to realize that the law applies to me just as much (well let's not kid ourselves the law would weigh against me more than a tranny up until recently) as some migrant or fat kneesock enthusiast.

Seriously, I don't know what else can be done to tell these people "we want you out of womens'/childrens' spaces, nobody said they were going to beat you".
 
Even if they never use it, any Islamic state that gains nuclear weapons will have them pointed towards the west. It's just completely antithetical to our way of life to give muslims that kind of political leverage.
probably isreal first, usa second. europe would have too much friendly fire.

Seriously, I don't know what else can be done to tell these people "we want you out of womens'/childrens' spaces, nobody said they were going to beat you".
not yet at least.
you can only cry wolf for so long before the wolves show up and no one cares anymore, or worse outright embraces it. "you gonna call me a fascist anyway, so might act as well..."
 
Iran is actively hostile to Israel, and vice versa.

The Norks hate Uncle Sam and have nukes as well.

Or Pakistan, which has stronger anti-American sentiment than Iran.
The scary part about Pakistan is its government is really unstable while it also has a pretty successful nuclear program. They have around 170-200 warheads, plenty of missiles and launchers to use them, and they are even developing tactical nuclear weapons. They're also trying very hard to get their hands on nuclear submarines. Making matters worse is that Pakistan's nuclear program originates in Balochistan, which is right next to both Iran and Afghanistan. Most of Pakistan's suspected nuclear launch sites are pointed towards India, but there is one quite close to Iran (Khuzdar). Meanwhile, most of the production is near Afghanistan (Khushab) while its launcher assembly is a lot closer (Fateh Jang, which is a Chinese-assisted project).

If the Pakistani government goes under in any way, expect its nukes to disappear quickly and fall into very dangerous hands. There are a lot of people who worry about this on a daily basis.

Also, thread tax to compensate for my sperging about Pakistan and its nuclear program: "Vance ramps up his clout in Trump world" (archive). They're very afraid of Vance.
Vice President Vance’s clout is on the rise, taking on the role of pot stirrer at the White House and on the world stage.

His attack dog role was on full display during an Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky when Vance confronted the foreign leader, calling him disrespectful and demanding appreciation for the billions in aid the U.S. has provided the country during its war with Russia.

Vance’s more aggressive stance – including his ruffling of feathers in Europe and a visit to the southern border – follows weeks of tech billionaire Elon Musk in the spotlight, who at times has even surpassed President Trump for attention.

“Vance had his best week since being nominated,” a source familiar with the thinking of the White House said. “Solidified himself as a go-to player with Trump and MAGA world.”

As vice president, Vance took a seat behind Trump in the House chamber during the joint address to Congress, joining in with GOP lawmakers to jeer Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) and advocate for Green’s removal from the chamber for interrupting Trump’s speech in protest.

He then traveled to the U.S.-southern border with Cabinet officials to highlight immigration, visit with patrol agents and held a press conference to talk tariffs and the border wall alongside Gov. Greg Abbott.

But Vance really stole the spotlight last Friday, when a meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky went off the rails as Vance answered a question by a reporter in which he suggested Zelensky engage in diplomacy with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

That prompted Zelensky to read off a list of aggressions taken by Putin against his country over the last decade after he asked Vance: “what kind of diplomacy, JD, are you speaking about?”

“I’m talking about the kind of diplomacy that’s going to end the destruction of your country,” Vance said as Zelensky attempted to interrupt. “Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect, I think it’s disrespectful for you to come to the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media.”

Some Republicans who spoke to The Hill about that meeting said Vance unnecessarily enflamed the talks. But MAGA world, who has increasingly been skeptical of funding for Ukraine and align with Trump’s “America first” agenda also found Vance’s behavior refreshing.

“By going all in on defending Trump’s agenda and taking the fight directly to opponents, he’s solidifying his role as the administration’s top enforcer. This isn’t just about loyalty—it’s about power. Every punch he throws for Trump boosts his own standing with the base, reinforcing his credentials as a true MAGA warrior,” said Dan Eberhart, a GOP donor.

He added, “let’s be clear: this isn’t just about today. Vance is staking his claim to the movement’s future, positioning himself as the heir apparent for when Trump steps off the stage.”

That Oval Office spat catapulted Vance into the spotlight in ways he had not been since Trump took office in January. It has instead been Musk who has taken over the limelight of the administration, in often controversial ways over how his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has partaken in radical reforms of the federal government, including dismantling entire agencies on a whim.

“There’s this sense that you got folks, Vance and Musk are examples of this, who have free license to step into the breach right, which you don’t ever see,” a source close to Trump world said. “Trump has a certain amount of tolerance for freelancing…I think Trump likes people who perform.”

But Trump’s tone has seen a slight shift this week, at least when it comes to Musk. During his second Cabinet meeting, Trump insisted that his Cabinet secretaries, not Musk, take the lead in finding cuts to their respective agencies, but added the caveat that if they didn’t do what was necessary, Musk would.

Tensions are also reportedly flaring between Musk and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who has reportedly been furious with Musk for weeks since his team closed down the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), according to reporting by The New York Times.

Meanwhile, Trump has left Vance in a tough spot when it comes to his political future. The president wouldn’t fully back Vance to be the next leader of the Republican Party during a Fox News interview leaving many to wonder just what Trump’s strategy was there. Some observers say that’s also led Vance to increase his posture.

“He’s got a pretty long leash in a different way than Musk to be the interpreter of the MAGA doctrine,” the source close to Trump world said. “I think Vance certainly will be more aggressive in his posture because of that. Because he does want to be the heir apparent.”

Vance caught the attention of GOP senators and the White House when he successfully lobbied for Trump’s more controversial Cabinet nominees – albeit behind closed doors. Vance was credited with talking them into reaching a point where they could vote yes on now-confirmed director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and Health and Human Services secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Vance was also tapped by Trump to oversee a potential sale of the popular app TikTok ahead of the upcoming April 5 deadline.

“Vice President Vance has taken on projects, like TikTok and helping with Senate nominations, at the explicit direction of President Trump,” a source familiar with his work told The Hill. “President Trump clearly trusts the Vice President to take on challenging tasks.”

Some senators, meanwhile, are skeptical of Vance being Trump’s heir apparent and presidential hopefuls in the upper chamber will at some point start to create their own positioning for the future, the source close to Trump World described.

“I don’t think it was lost on people that when Trump was asked if Vance was his successor, he didn’t immediately embrace them,” the source said.

Meanwhile, Vance is cementing his role from multiple angles to show he can be the future of the party in 2028. He even defended Trump for declining to endorse him, arguing that its too early.

“Vance isn’t there to soften Trump, he’s there to drive the entire movement forward. To Trump, Vance is the product of what he started—young, aggressive, and fully committed to its future,” said Jordan Wood, a former Trump administration communications aide.
Translation: "NOOO, HIS VP ACTUALLY AGREES WITH HIM!"
 
Even if they never use it, any Islamic state that gains nuclear weapons will have them pointed towards the west. It's just completely antithetical to our way of life to give muslims that kind of political leverage.

I've already lost sleep knowing India has a huge arsenal. Judgement day will be on 7/11!

I'm sorry to tell you about Pakistan I guess you will never sleep again
 
not yet at least.
you can only cry wolf for so long before the wolves show up and no one cares anymore, or worse outright embraces it. "you gonna call me a fascist anyway, so might act as well..."
No kidding. Over the years I've managed to get booted out of group after group for merely suggesting "nobody's coming after you, what they want is much more simple and reasonable than hanging you, stop catastrophizing". I don't know why I still bother trying to reach parity with these people besides some obligation to the person in them I used to know and see now as misguided and radicalized. You can have the most gentle take possible in the opposite direction and you might as well be a White Pride Worldwide member in their eyes.

Hell, I got screamed at by a gaming group just for suggesting that violent migrants are the ones I want gone, and I (like pretty much every conservative I know) would be more than happy to take productive migrants into their communities that can build them up. Even that was considered way too racist. It is entirely zero-sum to them; you can't just take the ones that legitimately want to assimilate and build a future for their children in the Land of Opportunity, you also have to take (and are expected to love) the Peace Truckers (that don't actually happen but even if they did you should love them).
 
Apparently some Ukraine protesters decided to spend their Saturday harassing Vance and his 3 year old today.
Yeah right, without his security detail not getting involved? Or are you suggesting, that the VP of the United States of America can walk around the public susceptible for an assault at all times?

Well, if true, at least JD got a good breath of 1st amendment with freedom of speech right there. FAFO.
 
Yeah right, without his security detail not getting involved? Or are you suggesting, that the VP of the United States of America can walk around the public susceptible for an assault at all times?
"Harrassing" meaning "screaming -- likely any number of vulgarities, and probably towards his daughter too -- with a bullhorn but from a safe distance."
 
"Harrassing" meaning "screaming -- likely any number of vulgarities, and probably towards his daughter too -- with a bullhorn but from a safe distance."
So 1st amendment then. Make better politics. I'm pretty sure every politician gets treatment like this every now and then, they do in other countries as well. Some get this stuff more than others, that ought to be an implication of what people think of you.

It's no different with any other celebrities either. But some of them don't have the secret service protecting them when they are approached in public.
 
So 1st amendment then. Make better politics. I'm pretty sure every politician gets treatment like this every now and then, they do in other countries as well. Some get this stuff more than others, that ought to be an implication of what people think of you.

It's no different with any other celebrities either. But some of them don't have the secret service protecting them when they are approached in public.
All it takes is like 10 people to have an opinion to make one of those mobs; they do not necessarily represent the body politic. Hiring people for that job is pretty easy anyway, as has become obvious over the last few years.
 
InB4 Reddit lefties start screaming about Vance talking about his daughter like she was a dog.

"You don't 'walk' your daughter; you take her on a walk! Reeeeee! This can only mean he dehumanises people and thus wants to murder all transfolx!"

The angle they are taking seems to be, and i shit you not: "at least she isn't being killed in a war like Ukrainian children are!" in between blaming him for the war continuing.
 
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