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lol, careful you don't cut yourself on all that edge.

lol again. The US should turn its back on one of the most strategic regions on the planet, and in fact the very region that supports the petrodollar? Or are you instead suggesting US boots on the ground, seizure of the oil fields, etc.?
Yes it's a very strategic location and your support of Israel is just a rational calculation like you're playing Warhammer, sure.
The warhawks have spend how many decades playing around in that God-forsaken shithole and for what? Dead soldiers and a migrant crisis. There's another mass stabbing of children every other day in Europe. Nobody in the entirety of the West can afford anything. What have the American people actually gained from paying for Israel's existence?

Also it's interesting that you got all that from "we shouldn't give billions of taxpayer dollars to Israel".
 
lol, careful you don't cut yourself on all that edge.

lol again. The US should turn its back on one of the most strategic regions on the planet, and in fact the very region that supports the petrodollar? Or are you instead suggesting US boots on the ground, seizure of the oil fields, etc.?
Regardless of whether we are actually Israel's bitch or not (as they themselves claim) they deserve to die just for thinking we're their bitch.
 
Don’t know how many times I gotta scream it but it’s not just Israel influencing US Policy it is the Saudis the only royalty I think you’ll ever see our Presidents bow to.
I could not give any less of a fuck when I can go anywhere and say that, in the reverse you point out Israeli influence on our government in public and you get pilloried.

Fuck off with this 'but muh Saudis!' shit. It's not a dichotomy. I can prioritize the enemy within whilst caring about the enemy without.
Also it's interesting that you got all that from "we shouldn't give billions of taxpayer dollars to Israel".
Maybe, just maybe, possibly... give it a second, maybe people who want America to fight Iran and/or give infinity dollars to Israel, prioritize the needs of a specific ethnic minority over the needs of the country of America's collective, gestalt people. Like ticks, or a tapeworm.
 
Do you think Tucker supports "destabilizing US interests in the Middle East"?
Yes because the guy just denied that Iran sponsored proxy groups that are actively working to destablize US interests in the region are a problem. When these groups are attacking US allies and blocking international trade, that's explicitly doing that.

So we're ignoring the USS Liberty?
Israel immediately admitted guilt, apologized, and then paid out tens of millions in restitution. Retards like you never mention the USS Stark incident where 37 sailors were killed by an Iraqi fighter jet shooting 2 missiles at an American ship. Washington later blamed Iran for the incident and maintained it was an accident despite The Joint Chiefs of Staff investigation into the incident recommending that Iraq be held accountable.

What have the American people actually gained from paying for Israel's existence?
Americans don't pay for Israel to exist, 3 billion dollars a year in military aid isn't "paying for Israel's existance"

Fuck off with this 'but muh Saudis!' shit. It's not a dichotomy. I can prioritize the enemy within whilst caring about the enemy without.
you just implied it was and then sperged out when i pointed that your logic is faulty
 
Americans don't pay for Israel to exist, 3 billion dollars a year in military aid isn't "paying for Israel's existance"
The guy I was talking with suggested that Israel wouldn't exist without US support. He also agreed that Israel is an unfriendly nation. I'm just curious why we should pay for a nation unfriendly towards us to squat on an "important strategic location".
Also I think it would be nice of you kikes to say "thank you" to the US for making your very existence possible. Have you said thank you once, this entire thread? Just say thank you.
 
I could not give any less of a fuck when I can go anywhere and say that, in the reverse you point out Israeli influence on our government in public and you get pilloried.

Fuck off with this 'but muh Saudis!' shit. It's not a dichotomy. I can prioritize the enemy within whilst caring about the enemy without.
My point is it’s not purely about Israel, the Middle East allies are highly important trade partners. America’s economy heavily relies on the military industry and the ME are the ones buying.

If Israel didn’t exist the USA would still be fucking around in that area.
 
Also I think it would be nice of you kikes to say "thank you" to the US for making your very existence possible. Have you said thank you once, this entire thread? Just say thank you.
we say thank you all the time lmao

He also agreed that Israel is an unfriendly nation
retards like you suck up to nations that want to destroy the US but then spurn nations that support the west.
 
America's biggest security threat after niggers, are libshits.

Anyone saying a threat ranks higher than libshits and niggers, are foreigners wishing Uncle Sam sends them gibs or heavily invested in the MIC and obsessed with the theory of the GDP.

GDP is just a theory and lie like everything else in the modern economics textbook.

And crypto is a scam.

 
Yes it's a very strategic location and your support of Israel is just a rational calculation like you're playing Warhammer, sure.
Like it or not, the ME has strategic value and can't be ignored. Stamp your little feet in frustration as much as you want, but them's the facts.
for what? Dead soldiers and a migrant crisis.
Very few dead US soldiers though. And the migrant crisis is as much due to the Europeans - if not more so, you're the ones who allowed them in - as it is to the US.
Nobody in the entirety of the West can afford anything.
lol, hyperbole much?
What have the American people actually gained from paying for Israel's existence?
Control of the ME, the international primacy of the USD and therefore the ability to run infinite trade deficits. Not bad trade-offs.
Also it's interesting that you got all that from "we shouldn't give billions of taxpayer dollars to Israel".
What you actually said was "The US should cut their losses and cancel all aid to Israel and the Middle East." Say stupid shit, win stupid prizes.
 
You didn't state who is doing the supporting in this post.

Do you think Tucker Carlson is "supporting Iran"?

Do you think Tucker supports "destabilizing US interests in the Middle East"?

Do you think Tucker supports "selling drones to Russia"?

Do you think Tucker supports "[Iran?] selling oil to China"?
Yes because the guy just denied that Iran sponsored proxy groups [...]
He did? Is there a quote of him denying that Iran sponsors proxy groups?

I'm not denying Iranian proxies work against the US government. I trimmed your quote to focus on a specific question.
 
US interests
You keep using that term, but what are the US interests in the region besides propping up Israel?

It can’t be oil because we have more than enough oil from domestic and other sources.

It can’t be trade because neither Chinese nor European ships travel through the Middle East on their way to the US.
 
Oy vey, wouldn't it be a shame if we crashed your economy into third world resource extraction and agrarianism? Or got your cities turned into glowing craters?

In all seriousness we should, but there's no way there isn't punishment from the chosenites
We've got a sea-to-sea continent with almost every kind of environment and resource you could ask for, they've got a shithole in the sand. If we're the proxy then there's a good reason for that; because they need us more than we need them.
 
He did? Is there a quote of him denying that Iran sponsors proxy groups?

Fox News is wall to wall with dead-eyed politicians telling you that Iran is a dangerous “sponsor of terror.” Softening up the base for a war. But what exactly does that phrase mean, and how does it apply to the United States? Here’s one measure: over the past twenty years, how many Americans have been killed by Iran on American soil? Try to find that number, and then compare it to the number of Americans killed by drug ODs. Or suicide. Or illegal aliens. Or carjackings, diabetes and the Covid vax. Still think Iran is the greatest threat? How about we focus on our own country for a minute.

very clearly calling the phrase into question and downplaying it.

It can’t be trade because neither Chinese nor European ships travel through the Middle East on their way to the US.
US guarantees world trade through the US navy securing the worlds major trade routes like the Suez.
 
America's biggest security threat after niggers, are libshits.
I realized that after I read the shitty scifi series written by Breadtube's un-official queen, Lindsay Ellis.

The main character of Lindsay's book series was a BPD-suffering Timothy McVeigh-fangirl & the series ended with the main characters planning a Day of the Rope to purge congress of Jews baby eating lizard people that secretly controlled the federal government, the actual cause of all world conflicts.

Imagine if a MAGA supporter wrote a book like that? They would have been immediately arrested by the FBI for sedition/encouraging domestic terrorism.

But since Lindsay is a libtard, she was given free reign to fedpost write a book that portrays violently overthrowing congress as a good thing.
 
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