Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Harvey Danger]

The one he sued over was ANOTHER case where a brothel owner had two properties and wouldn’t sell him one, for super cheap, and worse - wasn’t developing it.

That was Greer vs Gilman, posted here in the main thread by Useful_Mistake in January. I don't remember the timeline of when this was first discovered, I think that's the last item on Greer's emailed litigation list.



However, true to Greer form, he can't even list that without lying. The date is wrong (it was filed October 2022); and it wasn't dismissed for standing, it was dismissed for failure to state a claim and general retardation.



FWIW I scanned the docket dates to see if any filings matched up with missed Greer vs Moon deadlines, but it all wrapped up by April 2023. He did, however, pull the same move of failing to respond to a Motion to Dismiss, instead filing an Emergency Motion For Extension of Time because he didn't check his mailbox regularly. (The judge was going to dismiss due to lack of response anyway, but did the above analysis just for the heck of it.) That was in December 2022, when this suit was still sitting with the 10th Appeals.

I don't know if Hardin can move file a wrist slap for Greer lying about his own litigation history, but it may be worth a footnote whenever the next discovery-based sanctions are filed.

 

[AnOminous]

However, true to Greer form, he can't even list that without lying. The date is wrong (it was filed October 2022); and it wasn't dismissed for standing, it was dismissed for failure to state a claim and general retardation.

This is frankly close enough. The court did a standing analysis as part of its decision. Generally, standing is not some procedural matter, it is jurisdictional, and properly asserting standing is the plaintiff's burden.

The court then analyzed both prongs and found Russtard met neither of them.

That was its basis for finding a failure to state a claim, because failure to state standing is a failure to state a claim. It's just more of a silver bullet failure to state a claim than the more subjective decision whether something is just a badly written pleading or an actual failure to claim.

 

[Lach]

I found three attempted interventions in the main thread:

1. Greer attempted (a few times, I think) to intervene in Williams et al v. Sisolak. He was denied.
2. He attempted to intervene in Charleston v. Nevada; mooted because the case was tossed out. This case is an earlier version of Williams et al.
3. He attempted to intervene in Jane Doe v. Lombardo and was denied.

This is all I could find with a cursory search. The common thread is they all involved prostitutes in some capacity, and Russell ended up going against a lawyer by the name of Jason Guinasso. Guinasso is a human rights advocate, and as an outspoken Christian is against brothels and whores; naturally, this makes him Russell's worst enemy. Guinasso was the first lawyer he wanted disbarred; Hardin is the second. I don't know if he tried to get Skordas disbarred or not.

Edited to attach a couple of files

Absolutely wild that Greer would refer to some one else as "creepy and obsessive" in a case-filing, it's like the slobbering kettle calling the pot black.

 

[Jew-ish]

Absolutely wild that Greer would refer to some one else as "creepy and obsessive" in a case-filing, it's like the slobbering kettle calling the pot black.

"No u" is all he's got. He's had his character attacked so much, for so long, he probably thinks that's how people normally attack each other's character. He doesn't realize people say that to him specifically because he's a narcissist who has zero self awareness.

Edit: he's also not very smart.

 

[obsdj]

Meanwhile it's been over two weeks since we last heard from the judge, and there are multiple open matters to be decided. Hardin's most recent motion for sanctions, Hardin's most recent short form discovery motion, Greer's motion to reconsider and set aside on that stupid "restraining order" jazz and associated fee sanctions, the damn motion to stay and possibly re-start discovery, on and on it goes.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Meanwhile it's been over two weeks since we last heard from the judge, and there are multiple open matters to be decided. Hardin's most recent motion for sanctions, Hardin's most recent short form discovery motion, Greer's motion to reconsider and set aside on that stupid "restraining order" jazz and associated fee sanctions, the damn motion to stay and possibly re-start discovery, on and on it goes.

You missed Greer's motion to show cause as to why Mr. Hardin shouldn't be sanctioned.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.246.0.pdf

 

[obsdj]

You missed Greer's motion to show cause as to why Mr. Hardin shouldn't be sanctioned.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.148809/gov.uscourts.utd.148809.246.0.pdf

Oh yeah, tacked on at the very end in the "conclusion" section of his response to the motion for short form discovery, mentioned essentially as an afterthought and with zero supportive material in the main doc for why it should be ordered. Blink and you'll miss it.

 

[h3catoncheries]

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Maybe I'm not too familiar with american court lingo, but isn't this incorrect?
Shouldnt he be asking the court to order defendants to show cause, and not asking the court itself to show cause?
A nitpick, but still funny to imagine Greer ordering the court around:
"NO little court child, YOU tell me why THEY shouldn't be sanctioned"

 

[Harvey Danger]

Shouldnt he be asking the court to order defendants to show cause, and not asking the court itself to show cause?

Yeah, but it's a small enough grammar mistake to fall under the retard-shielding.

"NO little court child, YOU tell me why THEY shouldn't be sanctioned"

The Court already did tell him, Greer just didn't listen. Common Greer problem, in all areas of his life, actually.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Maybe I'm not too familiar with american court lingo, but isn't this incorrect?
Shouldnt he be asking the court to order defendants to show cause, and not asking the court itself to show cause?
A nitpick, but still funny to imagine Greer ordering the court around:
"NO little court child, YOU tell me why THEY shouldn't be sanctioned"

I agree, does "requests the Court show cause" even have any basis in legal meaning at all or is it just Greer word salsa?

Do we think he retard-handed "requests the Court order Defendants to Show Cause why they ain't all that and shit"?

 

[Irene and 22 others]

Shouldnt he be asking the court to order defendants to show cause, and not asking the court itself to show cause?

I think he's still too busy complaining about Hardin violating the protective order to chase down any other pie-eyed mush-mouth legal theories in his filings.

I get a good laugh every time it crops up again because he keeps going for it even though the court has specifically said that Hardin did not violate the order. It's not that much more disconnected from reality than anything else Russ believes, but the entire saga of him requesting, receiving, and not reading the order, complaining about it in his filings, requesting a copy again, marking emails containing nothing sensitive as specified in the order, publishing those emails as an exhibit in one of his own filings, and then complaining about it again in more of his filings has been a perfect microcosm of this entire case.

I patiently await the next chapter of this ongoing epic in the making.

 

[I Shidded I Farded I Came]

get a good laugh every time it crops up again because he keeps going for it even though the court has specifically said that Hardin did not violate the order. It's not that much more disconnected from reality than anything else Russ believes, but the entire saga of him requesting, receiving, and not reading the order, complaining about it in his filings, requesting a copy again, marking emails containing nothing sensitive as specified in the order, publishing those emails as an exhibit in one of his own filings, and then complaining about it again in more of his filings has been a perfect microcosm of this entire case.

He also claimed he made the deadline (two hours late) because he was reading the protective order yet still somehow failed to follow instructions so simple that I understood them.

 

[The Dude]

I think he's still too busy complaining about Hardin violating the protective order to chase down any other pie-eyed mush-mouth legal theories in his filings.

I get a good laugh every time it crops up again because he keeps going for it even though the court has specifically said that Hardin did not violate the order. It's not that much more disconnected from reality than anything else Russ believes, but the entire saga of him requesting, receiving, and not reading the order, complaining about it in his filings, requesting a copy again, marking emails containing nothing sensitive as specified in the order, publishing those emails as an exhibit in one of his own filings, and then complaining about it again in more of his filings has been a perfect microcosm of this entire case.

I patiently await the next chapter of this ongoing epic in the making.

You'd think Russ would eventually start taking this case seriously, carefully reading each and every filing multiple times to ensure he doesn't miss anything or make a mistake that could bite him in the ass down the line and accrue more costly sanctions. But no. He either missed all the times the judge made it crystal clear that the Defendant and his Counsel have NOT violated the SPO because he is merely skimming the rulings, or he does read it, but psychologically dismisses it because it isn't favorable to him and the outcome he wants.

 

[teriyakiburns]

You'd think Russ would eventually start taking this case seriously

This is Russ taking the case seriously.

 

[obsdj]

He also claimed he made the deadline (two hours late) because he was reading the protective order

I don't see where he stated that reason for being late. He just repeatedly claimed that he didn't want to disclose the names because he was afraid of KF "harassing" his "witnesses."

Edit: In ECF 203 he makes this belated claim as the reason for his lateness:

He does not indicate that he ever actually read the SPO.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I don't see where he stated that reason for being late. He just repeatedly claimed that he didn't want to disclose the names because he was afraid of KF "harassing" his "witnesses."

Edit: In ECF 203 he makes this belated claim as the reason for his lateness:
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He does not indicate that he ever actually read the SPO.

In ECF 221 he kind of combines the two reasons.

Notice he doesn't say he was "researching how to submit confidential info under the SPO", he was researching "how to file a motion". He wasn't even trying to use the SPO for a proper disclosure, he was trying his usual garbage of doing everything with motion filings.

I bet he was trying to find some way to email the judge directly, and ask him to forward the info to Hardin under some kind of super-secret unbreakable Judge Seal.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

Nulls attorney should file opposition to Greer's intervenor motions.

1) Greer complains about his lack of time to do lawyer shit in his own case while simultaneously wanting to do lawyer shit in other cases. Court should be made aware.
2) Bringing the courts attention to his BS in every case is good for justice and might motivate Greer to complete his cases. As a bonus it will piss him off just like scheduling his family for depositions pissed him off. Greer is the kind of idiot who believes Null's lawyer is the reason he's being denied intervenor status and that the court would somehow be obligated to grant his intervenor status if he dropped his suit against Null.
3) All of it would be funny.

 

[Swole McPole]

Notice he doesn't say he was "researching how to submit confidential info under the SPO", he was researching "how to file a motion". He wasn't even trying to use the SPO for a proper disclosure, he was trying his usual garbage of doing everything with motion filings.

Why would the court be entertaining any of this nonsense even for a moment? The courts and legal proceedings are by their very nature, public arenas. Unless there's a really good reason why somebody's information should be protected, it should be made public as a matter of course.

"I don't like my lawsuits being made public because everybody laughs at me when they read the details" shouldn't be something the courts take seriously. If you don't want people to laugh at you, don't file ridiculous mong-quality lawsuits.

 

[obsdj]

Why would the court be entertaining any of this nonsense even for a moment?

They're not, really. The Magistrate and the District Judge have both told him explicitly that Hardin did not violate the SPO. Greer is just choosing to tell the judges that they're wrong, repeatedly, as recently as last week (ECF 249):

I don't know if there's anything that can be done about it, apart from Hardin continuing to request sanctions for all the damn replies he has to keep filing on this bullshit. Can he request the court take judicial notice of the undisputed fact that to date, Defendants have not in fact violated the SPO in this case?

 

[Swole McPole]

I don't know if there's anything that can be done about it, apart from Hardin continuing to request sanctions for all the damn replies he has to keep filing on this bullshit.

It's just so frustrating, watching him producing documents that insist that black is white, while the court allows him to keep on acting like a retard and completely fails to hold his feet to the fucking fire.

If you lose, there are supposed to be consequences. Greer simply ploughs on regardless while Josh's costs mount and this fucker gets to laugh in the court's face.

If I was on the other end of something like this, I'd be paying a hitman by this point.