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Fellow silver bros, I’m about to shit up the thread with an unrelated topic, but it’s because you’re the only board I’m going to share this information with.

I have a relative who works in the paper industry. He is about as far from a conspiracy nut as you can get. Quite the opposite actually. He texted me yesterday to let me know that the tariffs are going to affect the price of wood that they use to make toilet paper. He said his bosses have forecasted a sharp increase in short term pricing as well as a run on it once the public figures out what’s going on. He said they think it will take 10-12 months for production to catch up.

To quote him: “stock up or get a bidet”. (Actual quote). He could be wrong but I stocked up anyway. Choose your own adventure.
 
Fellow silver bros, I’m about to shit up the thread with an unrelated topic, but it’s because you’re the only board I’m going to share this information with.

I have a relative who works in the paper industry. He is about as far from a conspiracy nut as you can get. Quite the opposite actually. He texted me yesterday to let me know that the tariffs are going to affect the price of wood that they use to make toilet paper. He said his bosses have forecasted a sharp increase in short term pricing as well as a run on it once the public figures out what’s going on. He said they think it will take 10-12 months for production to catch up.

To quote him: “stock up or get a bidet”. (Actual quote). He could be wrong but I stocked up anyway. Choose your own adventure.
This is sound advice. I'm not keen on powerleveling here but there are paper mills nearby and they source their pulp from Canadian timber, it's looking bad right now if these tariffs aren't resolved soon. I've stocked up just in case, it's a policy that literally saved my ass during Covid shutdowns.
I bought more silver and a gold sovereign recently, and I'm getting some money in soon with half of it going to more 1/10th Oz gold coin and 10 Oz silver bar.
 
Fellow silver bros, I’m about to shit up the thread with an unrelated topic, but it’s because you’re the only board I’m going to share this information with.

I have a relative who works in the paper industry. He is about as far from a conspiracy nut as you can get. Quite the opposite actually. He texted me yesterday to let me know that the tariffs are going to affect the price of wood that they use to make toilet paper. He said his bosses have forecasted a sharp increase in short term pricing as well as a run on it once the public figures out what’s going on. He said they think it will take 10-12 months for production to catch up.

To quote him: “stock up or get a bidet”. (Actual quote). He could be wrong but I stocked up anyway. Choose your own adventure.

You should have bought the bidet instead, you dirty-assed savage
 

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Strong U.S. demand for gold is “sucking” bullion out of some countries as traders try to stockpile it before U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs on Canada and Mexico kick into high gear.

There’s a “glut of gold” in New York’s vaults, Adrian Ash, BullionVault’s director of research, told CNBC.

More than 600 tons, or almost 20 million ounces of gold, has been transported into the city’s vaults since December last year, according to data provided by the World Gold Council. That amount of gold doesn’t normally belong in New York, said John Reade, World Gold Council’s market strategist for Asia and Europe.

“You only keep it there when extraordinary circumstances are happening,” Reade told CNBC.

The threat of tariffs on gold has spurred U.S. banks, investors and traders to shift the precious metal into the Commodities Exchange Centre and other vaults in New York, when it would otherwise usually be stored in London.

“There are concerns that imminent tariffs on Canada and Mexico will affect both gold and silver,” said Nicky Shiels, head of metals strategy at MKS Pamp.

Trump recently declared that sweeping U.S. tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada will be going forward after a postponement on their implementation expires next week. On Feb. 1, the U.S. president signed executive orders imposing 25% tariffs on products from Canada and Mexico.

But some said investors fear the tariff threat will go beyond the two countries.

There are lurking concerns that broader tariffs will also come into play in the U.K. and Switzerland, which are also large physical gold hubs, Shiels added.

“The biggest concern is that there could be a blanket tariff on all imports into the U.S. and that this could also apply to gold,” said Nikos Kavalis, managing director of Metals Focus.
Canada and Mexico are among the largest exporters of gold to the United States. The U.S. imports the most gold from Canada, followed by Switzerland, Colombia, Mexico and South Africa, according to data from OEC World.

Since Trump’s election victory last November, U.S. gold futures have largely outpaced their international counterparts, creating arbitrage opportunities for those able to shift large quantities of bullion into the U.S., according to industry watchers CNBC spoke to.

Tariff concerns​

They attributed the movement largely to traders looking to close out of short positions, or those holding physical gold in New York expecting to short futures contracts to capture the outsized premium.

As of Thursday, Gold futures listed on the Comex were trading at $2,930.6 per ounce, while the price of spot gold in London was $2,901 — a difference of almost $30. The premium was wider in January.

U.S. warehouses now stock four years’ worth of U.S consumer and gold demand, according to data from BullionVault.

U.S. domestic production of gold in 2024 was estimated to be at 160 tons, down from 170 tons in 2023, according to data from the U.S Geological Survey.

The traders are of the view that Trump “could whack 100% tariffs” on U.S. gold imports tomorrow without it making a dent on U.S. gold prices, because there would be enough gold in the vaults, said Ash.

Though there’s usually no pressing need for physical gold deliveries, investors need to be assured that they can be made — something Trump’s tariffs threaten to disrupt.

“Very few people have to make deliveries normally, but you always need to be able to make deliveries,” said World Gold Council’s Reade.

“But if you’re now suddenly worried that you might have to pay an import tariff, then you don’t want your gold in London, you need to have it in New York before the tariff comes in,” he said.

Supply chain disruption​

“Supply chains have been disrupted because of this huge sucking sound, which has been the United States importing gold ahead of the potential tariffs,” said Reade.

A complicating factor is that Comex depositories largely make deliveries via kilogram bars, which are usually available only in select regions like China, Southeast Asia, the Middle East and India, he added.

“There is only a limited capacity for refineries to produce one kilogram bars,” said Reade.

“Suddenly everybody has been trying to get hold of one kilogram bars that are eligible to be placed in Comex warehouses and ship them to New York, and that means that other gold flows have been interrupted,” he added.

London, often referred to as the terminal market for gold, experienced a big impact from the shift.

“As the market has been shifting inventories of gold from private London vaults to Comex vaults, the availability of metal in private vaults in London has been declining,” said Metals Focus’ managing director Kavalis.

Large gold bars are also being pulled out of London to other refineries around the world where they can be melted and refined into kilobars, because the standard bullion stored in London are 400-ounce bars rather than kilobars.

Gold reserves in London’s vaults fell for the third consecutive month in January, data from the London Bullion Market Association showed. The amount of gold reserves in January was 1.7% lower than in December.

Gold exports from Switzerland into the U.S. in January also rose to the highest level in at least 13 years, according to a Reuters report citing Swiss customs data. And Singapore has shipped more gold than it normally would to the United States, Kavalis noted.

Just to hedge against these tariffs, gold has been shipped to the U.S., and that “sucks gold out of the rest of the system,” said Reade.

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For an even clearer picture of the magnitude of the shift in bullion imports, we note that the Swiss trade deficit (where all that bullion is coming from) rocketed higher (an order of magnitude from historical norms)...
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As we detailed here, while everyone has been distracted by talk of the tariff-driven arbitrage between COMEX and LBMA (London)...

Nothing stops the gold train.

And there it is: gold parked at comex vaults just hit an all time high of 39.7mm oz, surpassing the post-covid panic high.... and instead of slowing down, deliveries are again accelerating! Every day, the big bank shorts get closer to default. https://t.co/QbudVZepTk pic.twitter.com/u9Ijgm5Ati
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) March 6, 2025
...it appears Americans have been buying bullion direct from the Swiss.

Dear Switzerland, thank you for the gold avalanche. Oh, and all those who incorrectly claimed the physical gold scramble is just "tariff arbing" London and New York, good luck quietly deleting your posts pic.twitter.com/89rhAz7ECT
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) March 6, 2025
We do note that there is some speculation that this massive surge in bullion imports from Switzerland to US could be an effort to 'refill' Fort Knox as America's gold depository has come under scrutiny in recent months.

Obviously, by pure math, this is not good at all for Q1 GDP (as we already saw The Atlanta Fed's GDPNOW forecast crashing). However, complaining about a decline in GDP due to massive imports of precious metals seems ironic at the very least.
 
Got the Perth 2025 Lunar Snake (Ver. 3).

They took the lady off and started putting Charles on them now; yes, last years 2024 Lunar Dragon still had the Queen on them.
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Could've gotten it for cheaper, if I got it when it first came out; but was watching the price only go up and decided to snatch it before the prices got too insane.
 
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It depends on whether you want to buy something paying well over spot, sell it years later for well below spot, and in the meantime it goes nowhere. If that appeals to you, just put cash under your mattress instead.
if we ever get real tariffs and not just circle jerking yes no maybe so in the media and the white house .... if we get real tariffs it will be profitable to steal your nabors catalytic converter again ..... I think I answered the question for those who want to know.....
 
Was about to buy a few more ounces of silver until I realized after shipping and taxes, a single ounce is damn near $40 these days.

Is silver finally on the rise or something? Bubble?
 
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