Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Looseleaf Paper]

That's bizarre, as far as I can tell, $74.75 > a dime.


I know it's a bond, so not technically paid yet, just give me this one.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Is Hardin predicting that Greer will become the hooker?

 

[Captain Manning]

American Rule means when a big corporation sues to take down something like copyright material, they can't automatically hold all the small people liable for the court costs.

Not true in the case of copyright. There is a fee shifting provision for that.

At scale, this principle is why we have the American Rule. The places where it fails have to be balanced against all the places where it protects people from wealthier plaintiffs engaging in litigation for little to no skin in the game.

To be clear:

I am not arguing that poorfags should not be able to bring lawsuits in good faith that might actually be meritorious. Or that if some poorfag loses on a technicality they should bare the full brunt of the costs. I get that would imperil equal access to the judicial system.

However, if a lawsuit is patently horseshit, or vexatious, I am sick and tired of the American Rule punishing the winning side for defending themselves.

There's got to be a better way than the system we have now. Like perhaps there should be a post-ruling analysis as to whether a reasonable person would have ever brought such a suit, and then figure out how costs are to be divided.

TL;DR, I have immense sympathy for Null in having to deal with this.

 

[Dyn]

Copyright cases specifically have a fee shifting provision

Can you invoke them on this or are they specifically just for when the RIAA sues some single mother on welfare?

 

[JustSomeDong]

I object. Greer does not have a pure heart, in any sense of the word.

I never said it was accurate or actually applied to Greer. Nobody on such an Epic Whore Quest could ever be described as "pure of heart." But, that particular glaring irony doesn't need my help. Its self-evident.

I just thought it was a nice "term of art," mostly for potential future shitposty reasons.

 

[Troonos]

I'd say I hope the sanction is replaced with hanging by the neck until dead, but the extreme lubricity of Russ' drool would probably let his neck slip straight out of the noose.

 

[talk talk talk]

Considering Russhole has an eviction, a repo, and a collection judgment on his record, it seems unlikely anyone would post bond for him.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Doesn't his IFP status automatically throw this into doubt? Especially for a retard who has claimed, on the record, that he is too poor to keep an apartment and some laptops.

Mr. Hardin, with all due respect, do you really have time to be shitposting your strats on the farms?

 

[AnOminous]

Can you invoke them on this or are they specifically just for when the RIAA sues some single mother on welfare?

Any prevailing party, plaintiff or defendant, can be awarded a "reasonable attorney's fee" under 17 U. S. C. § 505. Fogerty v. Fantasy, Inc., 510 U.S. 517 (1994) (dipshit music publisher that owned Creedence's catalog sued John Fogerty because he sounded too much like John Fogerty in his solo album).

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

I'd say I hope the sanction is replaced with hanging by the neck until dead, but the extreme lubricity of Russ' drool would probably let his neck slip straight out of the noose.

I would have to dig around to find the exact details, but I heard of a case where for a township couldn't afford enough rope for all the folks that needed killin' so before the next execution they washed a used noose with soap and water for some reason and the soapy noose ended up slitting the hanged's throat
I think it's because when someone is hanged they put the noose to the side to give it a better chance of making a clean break on the neck, but since the noose was slippery it just slipped to the back (and because it was used it was stiffer than fresh rope which let it cut)

 

[Bogliacci]

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Mr. Hardin, with all due respect, do you really have time to be shitposting your strats on the farms?
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Finally beat the Hardin allegations.

Good luck with the motion, @Harvey Danger

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

So can this play into the sanction appeal too? The amount was set so low based on Greer’s poverty status.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Mr. Hardin, with all due respect, do you really have time to be shitposting your strats on the farms?

Good luck with the motion, @Harvey Danger

I can neither confirm nor deny that I am a rational adult capable of recognizing contradictions.

 

[The Dude]

Seems to me Hardship Hardin is done fucking around. He seems to be absolutely out for Russhole's blood, and ruthlessly so.

 

[Captain Manning]

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Mr. Hardin, with all due respect, do you really have time to be shitposting your strats on the farms?
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"At the risk of beating dead horses,"

Don't apologize for that. You beat that horse, Hardin. Beat it into glue!

 

[obsdj]

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I’m not optimistic about this one. Seems a tad grand-standy, like when he made that filing pretending to be confused about whether Greer lives in Wyoming and should we talk about jurisdiction, when we all know there was no such confusion. I’ll be shocked if the court doesn’t smack this one down as “premature” or “unwarranted” or some similar language just because of a line of retard-speak in Greer’s latest spittle-flecked hissyfit.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Makes absolute sense to me. If Greer is going to drag your ass into an appeal anyway, why in God's name wouldn't you counter appeal and attempt to get the full amount of costs that the magistrate initially awarded. Slap Greer and slap that retarded judge in one fell swoop.

But Jesus Christ the dollars to do that vs the potential result. …but of course that’s his only strategy - be enough of an annoying gnat that someone says ok fuck it, whatever. Hasn’t worked yet, but he clearly thinks it will. Well, actually, I’m not sure he even has the capacity to think strategically - it’s mainly just his default way of life. And it’s small and gross.

 

[Null]

Can you invoke them on this or are they specifically just for when the RIAA sues some single mother on welfare?

It's plaintiff only.

 

[talk talk talk]

I had to work on a messy Rule 62 issue last year. Not gonna help out Russ here (not like I actually could) but he is so incredibly wrong here I have trauma lumps now.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

The IFP motion is going to create some amazing milk from Russ. I can't wait for the tears and trauma lumps.