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On the bright side, it looks like he's suffering both physically and emotionally.
i feel like if Jon was more willing to use his clout to go after the people on the left when it came to cancel culture it would have improved people's respect for him in the modern era. Its crazy how he dropped the ball on Shane Gillis and the numerous other comedians that got fucked over by the left.

Even when he defends Joe Rogan, he doesn't really go too hard on the leftists he's arguing against. Especially with how the left has been going after comedians and especially entertainers, Jon using his clout might have done a lot to help.

The same way Dave Chapelle finally having one non-usual lefty opinion had tons of people respecting him.
 
I know just the villain, too.
(yes this pun was how he was introduced in the original run of the show before Clown World)
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As a kid, HIM always made me extremely uncomfortable. He might single handedly be why I grew up to hate trannies so much…which was probably the point
 
i feel like if Jon was more willing to use his clout to go after the people on the left when it came to cancel culture it would have improved people's respect for him in the modern era. Its crazy how he dropped the ball on Shane Gillis and the numerous other comedians that got fucked over by the left.
Jon Stewart's current comedy tour buddies are 2 painfully unfunny junkies fresh out of rehab i.e. Pete Davidson and John Mulaney. So I'm not shocked Stewart disparaged Shane Gillis - clearly Stewart is awful at judging comedy.

As a kid, HIM always made me extremely uncomfortable. He might single handedly be why I grew up to hate trannies so much…which was probably the point
I was also scared of HIM as a kid. He literally looked like a demon and in one episode got veeeery creepy with Buttercup, like, in a "he belongs on a watchlist and shouldn't be allowed near schools" kinda way.
 
. So I'm not shocked Stewart disparaged Shane Gillis
drop the ball is a phrase which colloquially means not doing anything. Stewart didn't say anything about Shane Gillis, which is why i used that term, it was rather odd too because Jim Jeffries (who had a show on comedy central at the time) was talking about it as was most other people in stand up, because of how crazy it was.

also rather telling Jon can't handle a comedy tour by himself so he has two big names on it as well. its like when musicians need to combine to do a tour. It sucks and shows how small their fanbases are.
 
drop the ball is a phrase which colloquially means not doing anything. Stewart didn't say anything about Shane Gillis, which is why i used that term, it was rather odd too because Jim Jeffries (who had a show on comedy central at the time) was talking about it as was most other people in stand up, because of how crazy it was.

also rather telling Jon can't handle a comedy tour by himself so he has two big names on it as well. its like when musicians need to combine to do a tour. It sucks and shows how small their fanbases are.
A friend of mine went to John Mulaney's most recent solo tour; she said it sucked and nearly all his jokes were about how much he missed doing drugs, and how expensive it was to be a new parent. But mostly about how much it sucked to not be high all the time.
 
Its not hidden everyone knows it's happening. The people who tried to dismantle it were broken by the level of atrocity they had to commit to even have a chance to stop it.
If everyone knows it's happening then you wouldn't need the FBI to tell you it's happening.
Your argument is self defeating the longer you think about it.
If it's so pervasive you don't need the government to tell you.
If it's so pervasive YOU could easily find out yourself.
If it's so pervasive why would anyone bother to hide it if people won't do anything to you?
You are just being a nihilistic little bitch.
I personally don't see much if any value in the whole Epstein thing. Because even if the data is released and names are tied to things I thing the whole things is too muddied to lead to prosecutions and too distant to sustain any vigilantism.
 
Its not hidden everyone knows it's happening. The people who tried to dismantle it were broken by the level of atrocity they had to commit to even have a chance to stop it.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Specifically "broken by the level of atrocity".
If Trump handed you the list of pedofiles and told you that you were fully authorized to kill them all how many could YOU personally kill? What if the list was 2 BILLION people?
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How to you go about ripping them away from them families without causing additional mental or physical trauma to them. The mans daughter is handcuffed to him crying begging you not to kill her daddy.
Depends on the scenario details. It's a hostage situation. Follow protocol. Do the handcuffs ever come off? Are they ever separated? What's the time, manpower, and budget? If it comes down to sniper to the head, I take the shot.
Are you going to dismantle their Deadman switch or let it explode?
Minimize casualties while ensuring success.
What if it's 97% of surgeons? Do you wait for new ones to train?
These are just logistical problems.
There is a million questions and no matter how you play it you will end up an evil broken man.
Nah. Killing evil doesn't turn you evil.
 
Instead of food stamps being a debit card, we should give them food rations. You can get X pounds of chicken breast, pork, or beef per month. X gallons of milk. As much fresh vegetables and fruit as you want. We've had government cheese before, this is something we absolutely could do again. Mastercard controls all the POS systems, they could enable this, easily.

Millions of pounds of cheese are stored in underground Missouri ‘caves’ — here’s the wild reason why

We literally have giant caves full of cheese, we ought to do something with it.
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Are they trying to traumatize the poor thing? Horses hate fag flags.
 
Even when he [Jon Stewart] defends Joe Rogan, he doesn't really go too hard on the leftists he's arguing against. Especially with how the left has been going after comedians and especially entertainers, Jon using his clout might have done a lot to help.
That's actually really interesting, I didn't know he had defended Rogan, but in a way they're so similar and I never realized it before. Both are comedians that ended up being primary information sources for a lot of people. I guess Jon would just look like a huge hypocrite if he didn't defend Joe at all.
 
That's actually really interesting, I didn't know he had defended Rogan, but in a way they're so similar and I never realized it before. Both are comedians that ended up being primary information sources for a lot of people. I guess Jon would just look like a huge hypocrite if he didn't defend Joe at all.
it happened literally this week, i only caught it because i follow Not the bee (babylon bee's non-parody news site) on social media and they reported it.
A friend of mine went to John Mulaney's most recent solo tour; she said it sucked and nearly all his jokes were about how much he missed doing drugs, and how expensive it was to be a new parent. But mostly about how much it sucked to not be high all the time.
thats odd, because Mulaney was very bland, like if it weren't for the cursing you could almost consider him something your parents might watch. he's very millenial coded with how "normal" he is. Even his drug stuff, he admitted pre-relapse to being sober once he finished college, he was surprised people didn't think of him as a degenerate which i find a bit hilarious, most people are perfectly fine with youthful indiscretions.

personally if i had to combine drug and new parent talk it would be like how its a similar highs and lows. not being able to sleep for days at a time and being miserable and never having money, but then there's some minutes of fun stuff you'll talk about the rest of your life because its your baby's first X.

I'm more shocked how his fanbase mostly still supported him considering he has a "female majority" fanbase and he literally cheated on a mousey white woman with a hot pick-me chick.
 
Its not hidden everyone knows it's happening. The people who tried to dismantle it were broken by the level of atrocity they had to commit to even have a chance to stop it.

If Trump handed you the list of pedofiles and told you that you were fully authorized to kill them all how many could YOU personally kill? What if the list was 2 BILLION people?

How to you go about ripping them away from them families without causing additional mental or physical trauma to them. The mans daughter is handcuffed to him crying begging you not to kill her daddy.

Are you going to dismantle their Deadman switch or let it explode?

What if it's 97% of surgeons? Do you wait for new ones to train?

There is a million questions and no matter how you play it you will end up an evil broken man.
Everyone must pay for their actions. But what I'm also saying is that an evil on that scale is fundamentally impossible. Someone, anyone, would have tried to report something. It's simply not possible to bribe that many people, and even if they did. The moment one of them is cast out or put on trial, they can turn on all the others, and with all the money and power they have, they could easily do what you're asking.

2 Billion people would never be involved in this for the same goddamn reason why we have a society to begin with.
A society built on evil eventually always collapses. Even North Korea can't control its own populace through force alone. It has to lie to them, not with money, but with words. Telling them the outside is so much worse, that they're ruled by a literal god king.

In this scenario you don't have that. even if you compartmentalize it, the moment someone who isn't supposed to know finds out the endgoal and talks to anyone else. The entire goddamn thing falls apart.

It will never reach that point because by then it's quite literally every single person on the planet quietly endorsing one of the worst evils imaginable.

and almost every single one of those employees likely has families of their own, they're fathers and mothers too.
how many of them would shut up if they have to shove other people's children into shipping crates?

you're asking me to believe that humans, as an entire species are ontologically evil, that's what you're saying dude.

take a deep breath. Go outside, and talk to people.

Because otherwise I genuinely fear you're going to kill yourself over this.
 
I'm more shocked how his fanbase mostly still supported him considering he has a "female majority" fanbase and he literally cheated on a mousey white woman with a hot pick-me chick.
Apparently Mulaney's ex-wife (an art photographer) is a notorious bitch - like, the sorta person who screams at waiters and treats retail workers like garbage. Pre=divorce, there was lots of Reddit posts about how difficult/rude/nasty she is - so that might explain why his fandom didn't give af about him cheating on his wife with that Attack of the Show! chick.

Edit: apparently his ex is borderline? Well, that explains it.

Edit 2: She also once accused Taylor Swift of plagiarizing her on a TikTok? The more I look into his ex, the more I pity Mulaney. Glad he was able to make a break for it, good riddance!
 
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If everyone knows it's happening then you wouldn't need the FBI to tell you it's happening.
Your argument is self defeating the longer you think about it.
If it's so pervasive you don't need the government to tell you.
If it's so pervasive YOU could easily find out yourself.
If it's so pervasive why would anyone bother to hide it if people won't do anything to you?
You are just being a nihilistic little bitch.
I personally don't see much if any value in the whole Epstein thing. Because even if the data is released and names are tied to things I thing the whole things is too muddied to lead to prosecutions and too distant to sustain any vigilantism.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Specifically "broken by the level of atrocity".



Depends on the scenario details. It's a hostage situation. Follow protocol. Do the handcuffs ever come off? Are they ever separated? What's the time, manpower, and budget? If it comes down to sniper to the head, I take the shot.

Minimize casualties while ensuring success.

These are just logistical problems.

Nah. Killing evil doesn't turn you evil.
Thank you both of you. I suppose I was not clear on what I meant, you both said so far better than I.

An evil of that scale is impossible because such an evil would never be allowed to exist.

Call me optimistic all you want.

but I feel that if such a scenario as described were to exist. Then the world would be two billion people lesser. If even that.

The logistics of such a scenario mean that likely most of them wouldn't fully know what they were doing and at least one of them, likely hundreds, if upon finding out, would be fully cooperative or flat out kill themselves.

judging by the fact we haven't seen evidence of mass fucking suicides at the FBI I think that..... well yeah the man posing this dilemma is a nihilistic little bitch.
 
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I managed to get fifteen seconds into this clip before I had to stop it out of disgust.

It's difficult to overstate how much damage Jon Stewart ended up doing to our culture. His brand of social commentary ended up being really easy to co-opt into the propaganda machine, not least of all because he was more than willing to go along with it. The generation of shit heads he helped raise were very enthusiastic to go along with it, so long as they got to act like him. He was also instrumental in teaching people to accept liberal bigotry as long as it was hiding behind a shit-eating smirk and a snarky attitude.

On the bright side, it looks like he's suffering both physically and emotionally.
I'll put a pretty solid marker on how much of an old man I am but you're completely correct. When I was in college Jon Stewart was something akin to a god. I had an ethics professor (who I liked a lot) that I had met at some cookout after getting an A in her class. She was an old and very rabid vegan and I have the natural defiance to that most Kiwi Farmers tend to have to just about everything. She liked the effort I had put into the arguments I made enough that we became friends that just decided we would never agree on anything. At that cookout she said something along the lines of, "It's sad we have to get real news from a comedian". Sad indeed.

Where news was once this boring source of pure information, Jon Stewart turned it into the reality TV we see today. He had an easy target (GW Bush) at the time but he proved that by being entertaining enough he could spew whatever he wanted and people would listen. Steven Colbert would soon follow and although his mockery of Fox News at the time he did the Colbert Report was clever and funny, we all see what he's devolved into.

I always hated it. I've been an angry conservative since I knew what it was. It's not always a good thing, after 9/11 angry conservatives were some of the dumbest most government trusting people imaginable to the point where we nodded happily as the Patriot Act was shoved through. Even then though, even as wrong as I was, I knew fuckers like Stewart were a disease. Pure smug. The biggest moment for the smug funny liberal was getting Barak Obama as president, it's been all down hill for them from there and that is something to take solace in.
 
Its not hidden everyone knows it's happening. The people who tried to dismantle it were broken by the level of atrocity they had to commit to even have a chance to stop it.

If Trump handed you the list of pedofiles and told you that you were fully authorized to kill them all how many could YOU personally kill? What if the list was 2 BILLION people?

How to you go about ripping them away from them families without causing additional mental or physical trauma to them. The mans daughter is handcuffed to him crying begging you not to kill her daddy.

Are you going to dismantle their Deadman switch or let it explode?

What if it's 97% of surgeons? Do you wait for new ones to train?

There is a million questions and no matter how you play it you will end up an evil broken man.
An act once good is not made evil by scale. TOTAL pedo death (after conviction in a true & honest court of law and the punishment decided by the judiciary according to the laws of the land. Which would be death.).
 
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