Debate @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST on the slippery slope of making loli porn illegal - At the user's own request.

[Gravemind]

The chief function of these laws is to allow federal agencies who don't like you to fill your devices with CSAM and then pile on charges. It's never been about protecting kids or actually stopping the people who exploit them.

I think it's gay. You can call lolicons pedophiles all you want, it's your right to do. But drawings (any drawings) getting banned is the first line of defense for the rest of freeinconvenient speech going away. Loli anime porn and saying Nigger are coal mine canaries.

A sapient cinderblock basically tried this already, they just replaced one sacred cow (jews) with another one (troons.) Pointing and laughing at lolicons being retarded or acting like anyone is meant to embrace them is one thing. I don't understand being happy that the federal government is shifting gears on censorship.

There's no difference. The slope gets slippery here, it's been argued a million times before. If we're prosecuting for drawings of rape then the next step is prosecuting for the "massacre simulators" Jack Thompson talked about.

Yeah it is, I'm a free speech absolutist. I believe gross, stupid and wildly eccentric people should be allowed to say and draw whatever they want. If you believe any differently then I honestly have no idea how you ended up on a website dedicated to observing such people like we're all on a Big Retard Safari.

Without fail this argument always boils down to some moron with a grey gigachad avatar going "Erm, I'm uncomfortable with X, I think it should be banned by some government" and expecting applause, instead of someone calling them a stupid pussy. I don't know if there's a Big Retard Safari thread for zoomer puritans yet, but there would be a lot of material.

Let me know how appeal to normalcy works out for you when it's time for the John Q. Public to vote on whether "gossip sites" like this place should be allowed to exist. Especially when histrionic people like Keffals or Brickface eagerly take the stand to equate Kiwifarms to actual real-world harm.

If anyone has ever wondered how stupid laws lead to stupid places, this guy's response is a pretty good example.

The idea that censoring drawings might set a precedent for other invasions of free speech, or lead to tools designed to "protect the children" that in reality just violate your privacy at all times, or any of the other lessons we've already learned from observing the aftermath of the Patriot Act, all takes second place to "well I think it's a good idea because I'm offended by these particular drawings." I expect that opinion on Reddit. It's strange to spot it around here.

Have at it.

 

[TV's Adam West]

What if the rapist we asked to come out was the friends we made along the way

 

[Inco G. Nito]

I mean he's not entirely wrong. In fact, I'd argue that a much more pressing issue to actual children right now is just the ability for them to obtain and consume porn to begin with, a problem whose proposed solution- requiring ID verification- is very unpopular as it is feared it would open the door to the slope of requiring ID for almost anything on the internet at all.

 

[LifeAlert]

How about we also ban anime and ponyfaggotry?

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

ah yes, the shadman defense

 

[Lidl Drip]

"free speech absolutist" is code for nonce.

 

[Axiom.]

>coal mine canaries
>loli porn
>saying nigger

Imagine comparing saying the right way to say "I love you" to lolicon, heartbreaking.

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

not a day goes by without you retards re-arguing over being a chomo

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

"free speech absolutist" is code for nonce.

@Day of the Cope

not a day goes by without you retards re-arguing over being a chomo

if there's one topic that never dies on KF is the age of consent

 

[Whatevermancer]

I mean he's not entirely wrong. In fact, I'd argue that a much more pressing issue to actual children right now is just the ability for them to obtain and consume porn to begin with, a problem whose proposed solution- requiring ID verification- is very unpopular as it is feared it would open the door to the slope of requiring ID for almost anything on the internet at all.

Sometimes I think it's a good idea to lock the entire Internet behind an age verification system.
No retarded teenagers to deal with, just imagine...
A man can dream.

 

[Hellwalker]

He's right about the first point that any law introduced that is about "protecting the kids" or "stopping the exploitation" is really just an excuse to violate fundamental rights. We've seen this dozens of times with laws that want to ban encryption to "stop the terrorists" or regulate the internet and require I.D. to "protect the children". However, instantly going to the argument that the Fed's will fill your devices with CSAM because of this law is a bit too conspiracy theorist, in my opinion.

 

[Gravemind]

He's right about the first point that any law introduced that is about "protecting the kids" or "stopping the exploitation" is really just an excuse to violate fundamental rights. We've seen this dozens of times with laws that want to ban encryption to "stop the terrorists" or regulate the internet and require I.D. to "protect the children". However, instantly going to the argument that the Fed's will fill your devices with CSAM because of this law is a bit too conspiracy theorist, in my opinion.

The funny part to me is that I had the exact same reaction. I agree with that very first post as well, but I had to include it for the context of his entire argument.

 

[draggs]

Why

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[Gog & Magog]

Why would the Feds frame dissidents by planting pornographic cartoon children on their machines when they could use the real thing?

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

If you are sexually aroused by nip cartoons of children being raped or being presented in a sexual way, there is something fundamentally wrong with you.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

 

[Grub]

As much as I hate to say it I am inclined to somewhat agree with him even if he is a massive faggot. Whatever laws they made banning it would almost certainly be expanded eventually to include other things. Rather than ban it they should just legalize tossing the producers of it into a woodchipper. It's always better when you can reduce laws if possible. That seems like a good compromise to me.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

If you are sexually aroused by nip cartoons of children being raped or being presented in a sexual way, there is something fundamentally wrong with you.

i would go even as far to say "not good"

 

[Jewthulhu]

He's right about the first point that any law introduced that is about "protecting the kids" or "stopping the exploitation" is really just an excuse to violate fundamental rights. We've seen this dozens of times with laws that want to ban encryption to "stop the terrorists" or regulate the internet and require I.D. to "protect the children". However, instantly going to the argument that the Fed's will fill your devices with CSAM because of this law is a bit too conspiracy theorist, in my opinion.

The funny part to me is that I had the exact same reaction. I agree with that very first post as well, but I had to include it for the context of his entire argument.

It's a law about AI-generated CP though. I see no similarity to a law out to ban encryption.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

"free speech absolutist" is code for nonce.

Its code for START THE WOODCHIPPER NOW !!!