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I really think if they'd gone with Kelly as VP they probably could've had a good shot at Arizona, but wouldn't have helped much anywhere else. Walz was the absolute worst I can imagine and only one that would do it probably. I'm glad they've been getting that sad sack of shit out in the news while Harris is only doing the occasional drunken word salads in small venues.
Kelly was tapped AFAIK and said no. No one wanted to blow their chances by attaching to Harris. After the assassination attempt in Butler, it was OVER.
 
Mark Kelly is a contender in many respects:

I agree with your analysis, he has a lot of strengths that would have made him a super strong candidate......20 years ago. At this point the Democrat party simply will not accept this White man with a White wife, and the Democrat party machine doesn't have the juice to force him in like they did with Biden. He's never getting out of Arizona, it isn't happening.
 
I agree with your analysis, he has a lot of strengths that would have made him a super strong candidate......20 years ago. At this point the Democrat party simply will not accept this White man with a White wife, and the Democrat party machine doesn't have the juice to force him in like they did with Biden. He's never getting out of Arizona, it isn't happening.
Definitely not with Trump pulling the rug out from under all the Democrat NGOs. Trump also keeps Democrats overextended by talking about Canada as a 51st state. They are seemingly incapable of not taking the bait and focusing on something that could actually hurt Trump, like the economy stuff.
 
overextended by talking about Canada as a 51st state
Seriously I don't even remember (or care) but there was some dem crying bigly as a matter of ritual, and sure as shit he's fucking around with decorum about calling them a state instead of anything relatively concrete to bitch about that might be something actionable in legislation
 
Seriously I don't even remember (or care) but there was some dem crying bigly as a matter of ritual, and sure as shit he's fucking around with decorum about calling them a state instead of anything relatively concrete to bitch about that might be something actionable in legislation
When you're working out peace deals, it's best to keep the Democrats fuming about something ridiculous. Trump tried to be serious in his first term and the Democrats stopped him at every turn. Now he learned that you have to do the important shit in the back while you keep your opponents busy with two scoops-type shenanigans.
 
(May God bless Ross Perot for speaking out against that and for, FWIW, making Clinton a plurality vote only president).
I don't disagree with you but if you take Perot out of the equation we just end up with Bush 1 vol. 2, and it would be the same but with a coat of red paint and less dick sucking in the white house.

And possibly no Republican Revolution in 94.
 
I like how Dems only complain about budgets when their guys aren't in charge. As long as their guys are the ones embezzling the money it's fine, even though they don't see a penny of it either way.

Reps at least complain regardless, though the uptick in X grifters latching themselves to Trump's and Elon's cocks on everything, even the bad shit, makes it seem less so.
 
and the Democrat party machine doesn't have the juice to force him in like they did with Biden
even Biden only got in because he had more experience than the rest of the field combined and called in all the favors; polls showing he was the only one of the field that black people actually tolerated helps a lot too. If you go back to the polls and news and opinion pieces, people thought Biden was a has-been and a relic until the south carolina primary showed how little non-whites cared for bernie/warren/pete/bloomberg/etc. he got more votes than the rest of the clown card combined, plus key civil rights leaders endorsements and the rest is history.

Kelly has none of that, he's an old bald white dude and his rhetoric is a lot like Tim Walz' meaning he sounds like your parents, he doesn't understand its not the 2000s and his bible quotes don't work on people and his "who will clean the toilets" bullshit is seen as the joke it really is. he'll be a great VP pick for when they give booker the nom and they have kelly in as an allusion to the obama/biden ticket but he'll get creamed in the primary, especially because of how vicious primaries are and we already saw from the last dem primary candidates, especially women and minorities, are willing to make up accusations against white dudes.

I don't disagree with you but if you take Perot out of the equation we just end up with Bush 1 vol. 2, and it would be the same but with a coat of red paint and less dick sucking in the white house.

And possibly no Republican Revolution in 94.
by all accounts the republicans, especially the bush-era ones in charge were constantly pulling the john roberts and keeping shit from actually improving in this country. there's a reason we're seeing so few people talk about how great Reagan is anymore. At best you'll see people talk about Nixon because his tapes sound a lot like modern podcasts, but policy wise republicans seemed to be worse than democrats in terms of accomplishing things republicans want. Just looking at how republicans were president for almost the entire cold war era, its rather telling that it didn't do shit for this country, the march through institutions mainly occurred during that era with the pushback only starting once Clinton got in office.
 
Definitely not with Trump pulling the rug out from under all the Democrat NGOs.
So far, two of the things he's working on - the reforms he's pushing on the bad faith interpretation of the 14th Amendment and the NGO defunding, could have the most significant impact out of almost anything. Cutting the knees out of the illegal pipeline has huge benefits (less crime, more money for Americans, etc) but it destroys the Democrat's long term plans for a replacement electorate. Short term, almost the entirety of the Democrat/Left grift machine has been funded through these NGOs with tax dollars, keeping agitators, lawyers, and other aspects of their political control machine going - even if somehow a Democrat wins in 2028 it'll take all four years to rebuild those things again, maybe. If Trump and the Republicans can get in some security and election integrity to halt voter fraud (which already relies on illegal populations and NGO funding) then it might be the death knell for Democrats - for decades.
 
It was the same in 2020 with people flocking from Buttegieg, to Klobuchar, to Mark Kelly, to Kamala, to Biden, and so on. They are glomping onto anything.

Mark Kelly is a contender in many respects: he's a former astronaut, he has connections to the Chocolate Messiah, and his wife is Gabby Giffords. He's been floating presidential runs for at least 10 years now and has some name recognition. However, he has 3 problems: he's a white male, he is against semi-auto rifles (which is no longer a winning issue after proglibs armed themselves post-2016 and got redpilled about guns), and he has a temper. Kelly is easily put on tilt and does a lot of theater kid performative shit. I don't think he'd perform well in a debate with someone like JD Vance, who stays calm under pressure and doesn't back down. Kelly has basically been insulated in Arizona and I don't think he has any idea how Republicans actually think since his ideas of Republicans are stuck in the John McCain-Obama era.
Ya, sorry his wife got shot but his anti-gun stance makes him radioactive to me.
 
Just looking at how republicans were president for almost the entire cold war era, its rather telling that it didn't do shit for this country
Reps controlled the Presidency, but Dems held the House until '94, and only got the Senate during most of Reagan's terms. Doesn't really change your point, it was just they had the excuse of Dems blocking them.
The two party system has, in hindsight, always been a farce, only there to obfuscate the ruling class from blame for the shit they're doing.
 
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