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Regarding 2020, the quality of Trumps lawyers, etc.

The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.

This all occurred, of course, when the revered Dr. Faucci said that in person voting would be safe. The one thing out of this guys fucking mouth that wasnt adhered slavishly or listened too and instead we got the mess that we got.

Though tbh, Trump not backing down and winning in 2024 was almost worth all the bullshit. Almost.
 
Regarding 2020, the quality of Trumps lawyers, etc.

The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.

This all occurred, of course, when the revered Dr. Faucci said that in person voting would be safe. The one thing out of this guys fucking mouth that wasnt adhered slavishly or listened too and instead we got the mess that we got.

Though tbh, Trump not backing down and winning in 2024 was almost worth all the bullshit. Almost.
I feel you. But I still haven't been told when the exact moment standing is lost or when mootness begins.

The timing on these cases is like trying to win a rigged carnival game.
 
The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.
That is 100% NOT TRUE. They DID try to file before the election. The judges told them their issue was that they didn't suffer any tangible, measurable damages. They specifically told the Trump Administration they wouldn't hear the case because he hadn't lost the election yet. Effectively saying, you cannot sue before the election. So once the election had happened, they turned around and claimed standing and latches. Effectively saying you cannot sue over the election because you cannot sue before or during and you cannot sue after due to standings. It was a 100% corrupt decision and never forget it was fucking that traitor Roberts that did it.

As it currently stands in the US you cannot sue over a clearly rigged election.
 
The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.
So what they did was still blatantly illegal, according to their own constitutions, but because Fauci said to do it no one had any standing to stop it?

I’m still pissed off about the DC judge ordering illegal gangs back into the country- it’s the most egregious case of (illegal) judicial overreach I’ve ever seen. A bureaucrat can override voting laws because of… a scamdemic? And a federal judge has more executive power than the president; he can order criminal gangs back into the country because… he says so? When neither of them have the authority to do either, but no one can go against because… no standing. It’s all fucking insane. Leftists can take their fascism rhetoric and shove it.

That is 100% NOT TRUE. They DID try to file before the election. The judges told them their issue was that they didn't suffer any tangible, measurable damages. They specifically told the Trump Administration they wouldn't hear the case because he hadn't lost the election yet. Effectively saying, you cannot sue before the election. So once the election had happened, they turned around and claimed standing and latches. Effectively saying you cannot sue over the election because you cannot sue before or during and you cannot sue after due to standings. It was a 100% corrupt decision and never forget it was fucking that traitor Roberts that did it.
Hey look more standing catch-22 retardation. God these courts are insane.
 
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So what they did was still blatantly illegal, according to their own constitutions, but because Fauci said to do it no one had any standing to stop it?

I’m still pissed off about the DC judge ordering illegal gangs back into the country- it’s the most egregious case of (illegal) judicial overreach I’ve ever seen. A bureaucrat can override voting laws because of… a scamdemic? And a federal judge has more executive power than the president; he can order criminal gangs back into the country because… he says so? When neither of them have the authority to do either, but no one can go against because… no standing. It’s all fucking insane. Leftists can take their fascism rhetoric and shove it.
And once again, it was Roberts that did this. Roberts had the chance to prevent ALL of this but his payroll would suffer so he refused to hear the case. These corrupt judges are allowed to do whatever they want because of him.
 
William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Of course, it's complicated by the fact that what attempts to do so existed before the election also failed.

There's apparently a mythical tiny window of like... 3 seconds or something that a lawsuit could theoretically exist in.
 
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Of course, it's complicated by the fact that what attempts to do so before the election also failed.

Before the election: "No crime has happened, there's no standing."
After the election: "Too late, no standing."

There's apparently a mythical tiny window of like... 3 seconds or something.
There were three attempts; before, during, and after.
Couldn't sue before it happened as there was no proof of damages
Couldn't sue while it was happening as there was uncertainty of the final playout
Couldn't sue after because it was done
 
There were three attempts; before, during, and after.
Couldn't sue before it happened as there was no proof of damages
Couldn't sue while it was happening as there was uncertainty of the final playout
Couldn't sue after because it was done

Yeah, that's basically my remembrance, too, although I didn't remember any attempts right during the election.
 
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That means jackshit if you don't have mechanical control over the wheel when it's direct steering.
I don't remember tesla's cars having indirect steering, i know other manufacturers having that but not them.
I agree we'll likely have them have the ability to do so with cars that have that, and cars with hub motors, but that's not the topic at hand.
 
That means jackshit if you don't have mechanical control over the wheel when it's direct steering.
I don't remember tesla's cars having indirect steering, i know other manufacturers having that but not them.
I agree we'll likely have them have the ability to do so with cars that have that, and cars with hub motors, but that's not the topic at hand.
Steering means jackshit too when you’re accelerating to 300km/h in your Model S
 
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