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Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon
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Pavel Yudin
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Can't quote Tuna but I might allow myself a bit of autism here, as a treat. This is going to be a spergy rant about psychology and psychopathology. From someone who actually has a degree in such matters, though honestly this would not even be necessary to understand Jerry is full of shit.
tl;dr: Jerry cannot even be bothered to read some literature about the disorders he wants to pretend he knows better than you, who the hell would have ever guessed. Heads up Jerry, the DSM-5 is free to find on google if you want to brush up on your own therapy speak. I think you would find the most enjoyment in the 19th chapter, it seems fairly relevant to your interests.
> "a lot of psychological conditions were clearly named by people who gave absolutely zero thought toward how it's going to be used by the public."
Maybe because before the rise in medical transparency these terms were most often used among professionals who knew and understood what those mean? Outside of Freud making up terms to say to his patients so he felt important while sniffing up coke and assaulting his wife, most professionals kept the diagnosis to themselves and treated their patients without necessarily naming their conditions.
Pop psychology just latched onto words it does not understand (despite how simple some are) like munchies latch onto disorders they cannot understand for the brownie points. This is why therapy speak became so popular: it feels good to blurt out those big fancy words you just learned.
Even the most simple terms are going to be misunderstood. Multiple personality disorder (which was then renamed dissociative identity disorder, which is admittedly a little more confusing). Depression. PTSD. Simple, right? Oh, wait...
> "Nobody has any issue understanding what "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder" means, because its name is extremely clear about what it is, what it means, and how it manifests. Post-Traumatic Stress. Stress that happens after a traumatic event. Easy."
Except not exactly. PTSD is a disorder that is not as well understood by the public at large than Jerry would like us to believe. While almost everyone knows what PTSD is, not many know or understand how it will manifest in someone. Did you know, for instance, PTSD symptoms are incredibly close to the symptoms of autism?
"Stress" after a traumatic event is fairly normal: being afraid to get in a car two hours after having been in a crash crash is normal. This is what we call "acute stress disorder". If you're in "clinically significant distress" within the first month (or three months, give or take; depends on who you're asking) of a traumatic event, this is acute stress disorder. Past this point, it's PTSD.
> "On the opposite end you have "Oppositional Defiance Disorder.""
This... is not the opposite end. ODD is not a disorder that has anything to do with PTSD. You cannot compare the two. Most children with ODD are not traumatized; most children with ODD are ADHD kids who cannot control themselves and have never received the help necessary to learn how to. ODD is most often a symptom seen in kids whose parents have not been taking care of properly and are lashing out and acting out. Yes, ODD is also one way children manifest symptoms of trauma, but it's like calling borderline personality disorder "trauma victim disorder".
>"Schizophrenia"
And here Jerry betrays he does not know anything about schizophrenia. Pop culture loves to sell the idea that schizophrenia is hallucinations and hearing voices, but it's not. Hallucinations are not THE biggest symptoms, though they are among the "big three": hallucinations, delusions and what we call "all the A we can shove in there" (anhedonia, alogia, avolition, apathy and asociality. i may be forgetting some.). Delusions are the persecutory ideas, the paranoia, the magical thinking. The A are impoverished or lack of something: anhedonia is the absence of pleasure in activities (sometimes previously liked), alogia is poor speech and avolition is lack of motivation.
> "NPD"
No. While some people with NPD do feel the self-loathing Jerry describes (and those are the people we tend to see in therapy, because this category coincides with those who want to get better), far more people with NPD have delusions of grandeur that lead them to believe they are better than everyone else.
There are also various ways NPD can manifest, though the common denominator is always that it's a way of getting people's attention to feed their ego. Whether it be fake altruism (like we see with MrBeast), malignant behavior (oftentimes co-morbid with antisocial personality disorder or what we call "sociopathy") or more covert behavior (wanting to have friends or partners who are powerful or successful as a way to feel this way through them). Another big symptom is interpersonal relationships are always under the lens of 1. using people as tools 2. seeing your loved ones as an extension of yourself (and as such projecting your narcissistic wants and needs onto them).
Seeing we talked about antisocial personality disorder, I wonder what's Jerry's take on it. Probably that it's just Battered Child Disorder: Adult Version. Fascinating how all the disorders Jerry can relate boil down to Misunderstood And Battered Child Syndrom, but never Something Is Fucking Wrong About You And It Is Your Fault Disorder, right?
> "Autism"
The low-functioning and high-functioning labels make sense, Jerry. They are very simple. Is the individual with autism able to function in a society that is, admittedly, not itself adapted to them? Yes? Then they are "high-functioning". They will need different resources than those who are low-functioning. And fyi, this is used to qualify a lot of mental disorders, including, surprise surprise, NPD.
> ""Well Dave, you sometimes hear someone calling your name when they aren't. I diagnose you with psychomonster-osis."
Jerry, what do you think ANTISOCIAL personality disorder means? It's not because you are bad at understanding words the words are incorrect, just that you're fucking stupid. You also said that PTSD is easy to understand thanks to its name, though its name doesn't clarify it has to be a little while after the trauma.
Maybe because before the rise in medical transparency these terms were most often used among professionals who knew and understood what those mean? Outside of Freud making up terms to say to his patients so he felt important while sniffing up coke and assaulting his wife, most professionals kept the diagnosis to themselves and treated their patients without necessarily naming their conditions.
Pop psychology just latched onto words it does not understand (despite how simple some are) like munchies latch onto disorders they cannot understand for the brownie points. This is why therapy speak became so popular: it feels good to blurt out those big fancy words you just learned.
Even the most simple terms are going to be misunderstood. Multiple personality disorder (which was then renamed dissociative identity disorder, which is admittedly a little more confusing). Depression. PTSD. Simple, right? Oh, wait...
> "Nobody has any issue understanding what "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder" means, because its name is extremely clear about what it is, what it means, and how it manifests. Post-Traumatic Stress. Stress that happens after a traumatic event. Easy."
Except not exactly. PTSD is a disorder that is not as well understood by the public at large than Jerry would like us to believe. While almost everyone knows what PTSD is, not many know or understand how it will manifest in someone. Did you know, for instance, PTSD symptoms are incredibly close to the symptoms of autism?
"Stress" after a traumatic event is fairly normal: being afraid to get in a car two hours after having been in a crash crash is normal. This is what we call "acute stress disorder". If you're in "clinically significant distress" within the first month (or three months, give or take; depends on who you're asking) of a traumatic event, this is acute stress disorder. Past this point, it's PTSD.
> "On the opposite end you have "Oppositional Defiance Disorder.""
This... is not the opposite end. ODD is not a disorder that has anything to do with PTSD. You cannot compare the two. Most children with ODD are not traumatized; most children with ODD are ADHD kids who cannot control themselves and have never received the help necessary to learn how to. ODD is most often a symptom seen in kids whose parents have not been taking care of properly and are lashing out and acting out. Yes, ODD is also one way children manifest symptoms of trauma, but it's like calling borderline personality disorder "trauma victim disorder".
>"Schizophrenia"
And here Jerry betrays he does not know anything about schizophrenia. Pop culture loves to sell the idea that schizophrenia is hallucinations and hearing voices, but it's not. Hallucinations are not THE biggest symptoms, though they are among the "big three": hallucinations, delusions and what we call "all the A we can shove in there" (anhedonia, alogia, avolition, apathy and asociality. i may be forgetting some.). Delusions are the persecutory ideas, the paranoia, the magical thinking. The A are impoverished or lack of something: anhedonia is the absence of pleasure in activities (sometimes previously liked), alogia is poor speech and avolition is lack of motivation.
> "NPD"
No. While some people with NPD do feel the self-loathing Jerry describes (and those are the people we tend to see in therapy, because this category coincides with those who want to get better), far more people with NPD have delusions of grandeur that lead them to believe they are better than everyone else.
There are also various ways NPD can manifest, though the common denominator is always that it's a way of getting people's attention to feed their ego. Whether it be fake altruism (like we see with MrBeast), malignant behavior (oftentimes co-morbid with antisocial personality disorder or what we call "sociopathy") or more covert behavior (wanting to have friends or partners who are powerful or successful as a way to feel this way through them). Another big symptom is interpersonal relationships are always under the lens of 1. using people as tools 2. seeing your loved ones as an extension of yourself (and as such projecting your narcissistic wants and needs onto them).
Seeing we talked about antisocial personality disorder, I wonder what's Jerry's take on it. Probably that it's just Battered Child Disorder: Adult Version. Fascinating how all the disorders Jerry can relate boil down to Misunderstood And Battered Child Syndrom, but never Something Is Fucking Wrong About You And It Is Your Fault Disorder, right?
> "Autism"
The low-functioning and high-functioning labels make sense, Jerry. They are very simple. Is the individual with autism able to function in a society that is, admittedly, not itself adapted to them? Yes? Then they are "high-functioning". They will need different resources than those who are low-functioning. And fyi, this is used to qualify a lot of mental disorders, including, surprise surprise, NPD.
> ""Well Dave, you sometimes hear someone calling your name when they aren't. I diagnose you with psychomonster-osis."
Jerry, what do you think ANTISOCIAL personality disorder means? It's not because you are bad at understanding words the words are incorrect, just that you're fucking stupid. You also said that PTSD is easy to understand thanks to its name, though its name doesn't clarify it has to be a little while after the trauma.
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I like that she's not even pretending she has a degree here she's just saying she doesn't understand why these umbrella terms for a variety of symptoms aren't more specific.
I would give so much money to read a college thesis written by Lily, or better yet, watch her defend her thesis to a board of very confused professors.
She can't even use sources correctly when critiquing children's media so I imagine a college level thesis with a full works cited would be a clusterfuck.
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You know what would be funny in a sad and pathetic way?Lily "colors" this sketch from Mikay.
Good job. Great work.
CD-Lily completely mischaracterizing Kari/Hikari by projecting David/Daisuke's characterization onto her.
I can believe it because of how pissy CD-Lily got over Luz in The Owl House, Season 3.
Bears Repeating
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Wait until she finds out that seahorses aren't really horses.
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This pretty much sums up his entire character. I do wonder if he's capable of self-awareness and self-correction, at least theoretically. Is it that his brain just isn't wired to reflect on his own behavior (like say, having some sort of cluster B), or is it something more like learned avoidance: he hated how being criticized or confronted felt, so he dismisses and deflects all of it to avoid feeling bad? I could see it being learned via his upbringing.
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Personality disorders are not as immovable as those suffering from one (like Poppy) would like you to believe. Even if your brain is not wired for self-awareness or empathy, these are still skills you are able to learn. Even people with NPD or antisocial personality disorder can (though rarely) improve such skills; the most prevalent issue with NPD and ASPD is those suffering from such disorders do not feel the need nor want to improve.
If Jerry does have some sort of PD, his upbringing played a lot in his behavior today, but let's not forget this is behavior he has exhibited ever since he was a child. A lack of proper care for those symptoms result in what we see today, but this is merely a reflection of what Jerry used to be, as we can see throughout his well-documented internet footprints. I do not think it was learned via his upbringing, but rather exacerbated.
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You know I do find it funny how she says she’s afraid of being taken advantage of in her sleep… hmmm why do you feel like that Lily? Is there something that you don’t want to be known? (Though I bet she doesn’t like weed or alcohol mainly cause they drop her guard and she could reveal shit she’s been sure to keep hidden in her mind)
Yeah I find funny that “this mental illness is given a scary name” no Lily. All medical stuff is described using Latin and or Greek. Phobia comes from Phobos. Greek god of fear. Chronic comes from Chronos. Titan father of Zeus and related to time. They are aptly named. However sometimes as we get better understanding of mental conditions. The more we must decide if should change the name. Hence Shell Shock (a post WWI term) was used to describe PTSD. However as more people, especially civilians who haven’t experienced combat, experienced the same symptoms does the name of Shell Shock, or Combat Fatigue gets turned into PTSD.
TLDR: Lily doesn’t know shit… again… and water is wet
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Goddamn. I just finished reading the last 50 pages of this thread and it's been a wild ride. All of you Jerryatrics feel just like family to me now.
I raise a glass of unspecified liquid in celebration of your selfless deeds documenting this shit show:
I raise a glass of unspecified liquid in celebration of your selfless deeds documenting this shit show:
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You made it through.
Welcome to the wake.
Welcome to the wake.
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Avatar Pavi and Fandom Hysteria
Released March 16th, 2025
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Released March 16th, 2025
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Helping out with a local copy.
Lily recording slip up.
That she was just too lazy to fix.
I don't understand the joke. This is Lily at her most insular.
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It's a lame emulation of family-guy humour. Jerry thinks he's funny. Like a lot of his beliefs about himself, he's dead wrong.
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I think she's complaining about people complaining when studios take a season of a show, split it into two, and call them as consecutive seasons. It's what happends with She-ra for exmple, the second season got taken, split in half, and called season 2 and 3 respectively.
Funny with how she's refusing to aknowledge that Utena is all one season, made up of multiple arcs, and calls each arc one season. Funnily enough, each arc but the last one spans across 12 episodes.
Why is she using this specific number I don't understand either. Like Avatar had about 20 episodes per book.
Lots of shows she mentioned watching as a kid, had had 20-21, or less, episodes per season, eg. Filmore, Monster by Mistake, Fairly OddParents, The Weekenders etc. Even some shows she likes now, have less than 26 episodes per season, like Hazbin Hotel. Will she refuse to call those seasons too?
It'll only make her sound more like a delusional lunatic. Which by all means, be my guest.
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I find it funny that CD-Lily, who's such an open bigot against Asians and the Japanese, is so comfortable using their average metric at most in episode counts to determine what constitutes a season. Most anime that I'm acquainted with usually have about 26 episodes in one season, but it's very easy to have between 12-13, and the ones I'm thinking about don't usually get more than two seasons.
Also, one thing out of many that CD-Lily is criticized for is being so brazen about abuse, though more verbal than physical. Do you really think that making a joke about slapping someone across the face is a good look and gets people to laugh? CD-Lily insists that there's a misogyny issue when it comes to critiques on The Legend of Korra, but would she be that open to engaging in physical violence (even as a joke) against a minority-coded character? The sad thing is that I think she would do such a thing if she felt like she could get away with it.
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"Veilguard is philosophically deep" as opposed to Origins which is like "If you took Lord of the Rings and slathered it in rape"
Oh my God I am fucking laughing at this ridiculous troon. 41% can't come fast enough for this freak.
Oh my God I am fucking laughing at this ridiculous troon. 41% can't come fast enough for this freak.
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Gotta get the swing at Sai in, didn't you?
Go on, say what you actually feel that Sai made more money in 9 hours than you did in 24 for the same video, you cunt?
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If there was ever any doubt that Lily's rebrand was anything but genuine, this is proof she didn't actually do it out of a desire to be more positive. She only did it to cover her tracks and is the same cynical jackass we all know and love. If she was really trying to be less negative, she wouldn't use that strawman character to justify her arguments or make an abuse joke despite, you know, supposedly having been abused in the past.
Also, Lily really doesn't understand a concept as simple as "not every show has the story or budget to make 26-episode seasons".