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Should be a wild four years.

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I don't think they were kicked out of various medieval European states because they were pushing quasi-gnostic theories of gender identity, I think it was because they had lent money to local kings and nobles who wanted to get out of debt using this One Weird Trick (Rabbis hate it!). They also did little to endear themselves to the locals, but I don't think that had much to do with 20th/21st century sociopolitical conversations. You're trying to make your Jewish Conspiracies too comprehensive, to the extent that they don't make sense as a whole.
In the eleventh century expelling the Jews was just the side quest on the way to expel the Muslims from the Holy Land, who didn't even notice when the crusaders showed up, lost a good deal of their fighting forces, and went home.

That's neither here nor there, but it's a funny historical tidbit.
 
There are people letting AI think and write for them. Right now, here on the kiwifarms.

Heretechs. May the Omnissiah condem them.

What pisses me off is AI is useful for some things. For example, it's great for generating random lists of semi-creative data points - "Generate a list of 100 names of crewmen on a Swedish naval vessel", "Generate 50 ancient tomes to find in a necromancer's library", etc. It's pretty good at that. It's pretty good as a first-step research assistant - asking for a broad overview on a subject, then narrowing in to specific subjects. If you want to learn how thorium reactors function, it's not a bad place to go. Because it's doing what it does best - it's regurgitating.

Although even that second point is... Cautious endorsement, not wild endorsement. AI has a number of problems even as a regurgitator. "Garbage in, garbage out", for one - AI data sets are trained on scraped data, and a lot of that scraped data is bad. Do you trust the average Redditor? Well, guess what? Reddit has been scraped by many AI training models.

For another, the way data is compressed down into the tensors... It's essentially a high-compression lossy format, which then uses random noise and pattern matching algorithms to reconstitute it into something approximating the original result. As an example: Ask an AI about a specific quote, but without giving it the quote - it will often produce something very similar to the quote, indicating that the quote was in it's training model, but the wording is different. And when I say "a high compression lossy format", I mean an *insanely* lossy format... Well. Lets look at a format people are more used to thinking about compression in, images. Diffusion models are trained on very large sets of images. Millions to billions of images. Yet the final model is measured in gigabytes, not terabytes. This means that each image is reduced to a very small number of bytes. It's going to vary based on the model, but some of the ones I've dealt with, each "image" exists as ~10-20 bytes of data. With a 16 color pallet to work with, that would almost (but not quite) be enough pixels to represent a single character in this word.

When you're talking about text-based information, imagine if you made an MP3 audiobook of War and Peace and compressed it down to fit on a single floppy disk.

A 5 inch floppy disk.

Which leads into the third weakness... People think that it, well... Thinks. And it doesn't.

If you use any of the AI models that let you peek "under the hood" and see their 'thought processes' when they answer questions, it's very obvious they have some very big... baked in assumptions. They are deliberately trained towards confirmation bias and giving an answer that they 'think' the user is looking for, at least unless it bumps up against one of their inbuilt programming guidelines, like medical ethics where they are usually artificially constrained. If you ask a biased question, you get a biased answer.

More, it depends on how the AI is tuned in that specific deployment. I encourage anyone to check out the DeepInfra host of Deepseek 3 - it actually lets you tweak specific parameters, how much it weights certain things, the 'temperature' of it's thoughts (how much of a wild-ass guess it will make, basically), how much it "navel gazes", etc. And even minor tweaks can cause the same question to produce very different results. The active deployment of any given LLM is essentially tuned to exist in a sort of "happy medium" that will give the most answers that please the most people.

Which makes sense. LLMs aren't actually AIs, that's just lazy shorthand. LLMs are statistical pattern matching algorithms merged with near-Lovecraftian levels of multidimensional mathematics (think: high-dimensional vector space transformations) that not one person in a thousand can truly understand. And like anything involving statistics, it is very easy to bias the results by using biased criteria for analyzing them. Which, looping back to the reasons AI is a bad research assistant for any serious purposes: The AI doesn't "understand" anything. It can be very good at fooling you into thinking it does, but's ultimately just putting words together in an order that matches what it's math says is a likely word order.

Newer models can be pretty good at math, though. Earlier ones were terrible at it - almost hilariously bad, considering they were themselves just math, under the hood. But most modern LLMs are specifically designed to be pretty good at math. But they do it by essentially having a completely separate, dedicated math "function" in their design, it doesn't mean they're smarter, just that they were given another 'tool'.
 
Exclusive: How the White House ignored a judge's order to turn back deportation flights
Axios (archive.ph)
By Marc Caputo
2025-03-16 22:11:18GMT
The Trump administration says it ignored a Saturday court order to turn around two planeloads of alleged Venezuelan gang members because the flights were over international waters and therefore the ruling didn't apply, two senior officials tell Axios.

Why it matters: The administration's decision to defy a federal judge's order is exceedingly rare and highly controversial.
  • "Court order defied. First of many as I've been warning and start of true constitutional crisis," national security attorney Mark S. Zaid, a Trump critic, wrote on X, adding that Trump could ultimately get impeached.
  • The White House welcomes that fight. "This is headed to the Supreme Court. And we're going to win," a senior White House official told Axios.
  • A second administration official said Trump was not defying the judge whose ruling came too late for the planes to change course: "Very important that people understand we are not actively defying court orders."
State of play: Trump's advisers contend U.S. District Judge James Boasberg overstepped his authority by issuing an order that blocked the president from deporting about 250 alleged Tren de Aragua gang members under the Alien Enemies Act of 1789.
  • The war-time law gives the executive extreme immense power to deport noncitizens without a judicial hearing. But it has been little-used, particularly in peacetime.
  • "It's the showdown that was always going to happen between the two branches of government," a senior White House official said. "And it seemed that this was pretty clean. You have Venezuelan gang members ... These are bad guys, as the president would say."
How it happened: White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller "orchestrated" the process in the West Wing in tandem with Homeland Security Secretary Kristy Noem. Few outside their teams knew what was happening.
  • They didn't actually set out to defy a court order. "We wanted them on the ground first, before a judge could get the case, but this is how it worked out," said the official.
The timeline: The president signed the executive order invoking the Alien Enemies Act on Friday night, but intentionally did not advertise it. On Saturday morning, word of the order leaked, officials said, prompting a mad scramble to get planes in the air.
  • At 2:31 p.m. Saturday, an immigration activist who tracks deportation flights, posted on X that "TWO HIGHLY UNUSUAL ICE flights" were departing from Texas to El Salvador, which had agreed to accept Venezuelan gang members deported from the U.S.
  • Hours later, during a court hearing filed by the ACLU., Boasberg ordered a halt to the deportations and said any flights should be turned around mid-air.
  • "This is something that you need to make sure is complied with immediately," he told the Justice Department, according to the Washington Post.
  • At that point, about 6:51 p.m., both flights were off the Yucatan Peninsula, according to flight paths posted on X.
Inside the White House, officials discussed whether to order the planes to turn around. On advice from a team of administration lawyers, the administration pressed ahead.
  • "There was a discussion about how far the judge's ruling can go under the circumstances and over international waters and, on advice of counsel, we proceeded with deporting these thugs," the senior official said.
  • "They were already outside of US airspace. We believe the order is not applicable," a second senior administration official told Axios.
Yes, but: The Trump administration was already spoiling for a fight over the Alien Enemies Act — one of several fronts on which they believe legal challenges to the president's authority will only end up strengthening it when the Supreme Court rules in his favor.
Between the lines: Officially, the Trump White House is not denying it ignored the judge's order, and instead wants to shift the argument to whether it was right to expel alleged members of Tren de Aragua.
  • "If the Democrats want to argue in favor of turning a plane full of rapists, murderers, and gangsters back to the United States, that's a fight we are more than happy to take," White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told Axios when asked about the case.
  • It's unclear how many of the roughly 250 Venezuelans were deported under the Alien Enemies Act and how many were kicked out of the U.S. due to other immigration laws.
  • It's also not clear whether all of them were actually gang members.
What they are saying: On Sunday morning, El Salvador President Nayib Bukele posted a video on X hailing the arrival of the Venezuelans in his country. Bukele also mockingly featured an image of a New York Post story about the judge's order halting the flights.
  • "Oopsie ... too late," Bukele wrote on X with a crying-laughing emoji
  • U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio retweeted the post.
Update: After publication, Leavitt issued a statement: "The Administration did not 'refuse to comply' with a court order. The order, which had no lawful basis, was issued after terrorist TdA aliens had already been removed from U.S. territory."
  • "The written order and the Administration's actions do not conflict. Moreover, as the Supreme Court has repeatedly made clear — federal courts generally have no jurisdiction over the President's conduct of foreign affairs, his authorities under the Alien Enemies Act, and his core Article II powers to remove foreign alien terrorists from U.S. soil and repel a declared invasion," she wrote.
  • "A single judge in a single city cannot direct the movements of an aircraft carrier full of foreign alien terrorists who were physically expelled from U.S. soil."
Editor's note: This story was updated with the White House official's claim that the administration had ignored the ruling but not defied it, because it came too late, and with Leavitt's updated statement.
 
Why are the vast majority of idiots that try to come on this thread to troll/be heavily affected by TDS have animals in their names? It’s just something I’m starting to notice between the Chimp Guy, the gerbil guy, and now the Lemur guy.
Because the NGOs and various intelligence organizations utilize AI to blast their propaganda 24/7. By using animals in their names these organizations believe it makes the account seem human. The vast majority of internet traffic, i.e. tweets and Facebook posts, are bots. The Dead Internet Theory is real. Their objective is to destroy the West, by any means, and it was working. We finally caught on.

I am black.
 
What pisses me off is AI is useful for some things
It's all about leveraging what the dumb pattern-match machine is actually good at.

A fun trick I ran across with ChatGPT specifically is that you can give it a prompt like:

>A forum post makes <questionable claim>. Are there sources for this?

More often than not it will find a decent job finding them due to it actually having tooling for web searches and being able to scan through a hundred pages of google results very quickly trying to match the statement you gave it to something on the page. It's especially useful if the claim has a bunch of words in common with some other thing on the internet that's much more popular.
 
Because the NGOs and various intelligence organizations utilize AI to blast their propaganda 24/7. By using animals in their names these organizations believe it makes the account seem human. The vast majority of internet traffic, i.e. tweets and Facebook posts, are bots. The Dead Internet Theory is real. Their objective is to destroy the West, by any means, and it was working. We finally caught on.

I am black.
Maybe I just like birds you nigger
 
AI, write me a story about how niggers tongued my anus, but please leave out purple prose and also make it somehow have Trump in there?
What pisses me off is AI is useful for some things. For example, it's great for generating random lists of semi-creative data points
I use it to cheat on math homework and also to debate ethics about murdering every single troon with a battle axe.
 
Has anyone else noticed that the anti Elon/Blumpf protests are weirdly geriatric? I've seen pictures on twitter and probably half if not more of the protesters are boomers in their sixties.
1. Most of if not all of the protesters are being paid. There’s large groups of people who are willing to protest anything for cash.
2. Young people couldn’t give less of a damn that some glowie lost his job pretending to be a based transgender hyperborean IDF soldier catgirl No. 5192826 on the internet.
 
@Gehenna why are politicians so bad at being affable
To make a long and invective filled rant short. The internet.

While politicians have always been known for a level of inauthenticity the internet made it far, far worse. And I got to watch it happen in real-time. I can write up that longer rant if you want but that's the core of it there.
 
To make a long and invective filled rant short. The internet.

While politicians have always been known for a level of inauthenticity the internet made it far, far worse. And I got to watch it happen in real-time. I can write up that longer rant if you want but that's the core of it there.

You seriously understimate the willingness of random Farmers to read long-winded posts from flies on the wall of opaque institutions we have tons of vitriol toward.
 
except they can, Roberts and most of the rest of the appeals and supreme court judges are spineless cucks and won't stop them.
Indeed. They are included in the "they" I was referring to. It won't be SCOTUS that puts a stop to this, even though it should have been and will desperately regret not doing so itself.
 
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Exclusive: How the White House ignored a judge's order to turn back deportation flights
I was wondering about that. Like they were already flying over international waters by the time the Judge's order came out. I still think that is the most utterly fucking retarded move they could ever muster up.

"NOOOO TURN THE PLANE AROUND, DON'T GET RID OF THE CHOLOS RAPING OUR DAUGHTERS AND SLINGING FENT"
 
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