Debate @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST on the slippery slope of making loli porn illegal - At the user's own request.

[Calandrino]

You're funding murderers and rapists.

Eh, I do that every time I pay taxes.

 

[Gravemind]

Eh, I do that every time I pay taxes.

Some would be inclined to argue that I am personally perpetuating mass rape and genocide simply by existing as a white male.

Sometimes I like to remind myself that I hold such power whenever I'm feeling down.

 

[DoNotFeedTheSneed]

Oh, he got banned? Cool

unfortunately not

 

[Chandelier]

On the other hand, when it comes to cartoons, disgust does not and should not define morality. Arresting someone and registering them as a sex offender just because they had rule 34 of Uraraka Ochako or Kim Possible on their hard drive is just stupid and just unnecessary censorship. Sure, there are limits, such as drawn CSEM out of actual children (looking at you, Shadman), but witch hunting someone over drawing aged-up Lisa Simpson is just dumb. What one likes in fiction doesn't always dictate what they like in real life.

If the characters are drawn aged up, it wouldn't be lolicon, it'd just be porn with adults. The genre of lolicon itself is of course the underage aspect - and it's a circle with a lot of "sex abuse survivors" living out their trauma.

It all goes back to escalation. 2D will eventually not be enough - soon it's only 3D.

 

[Po's Cootah]

If the characters are drawn aged up, it wouldn't be lolicon, it'd just be porn with adults.

That's the issue. A lot of Twitter lunatics think it's still pedophilia and the Texan ones will probably try to abuse calling the authorities over it.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

That's the issue. A lot of Twitter lunatics think it's still pedophilia and the Texan ones will probably try to abuse calling the authorities over it.

See, this is a better take on the point than just going "Lolicon is free speech" like this retard @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST was trying to convey.

There's no doubt that there should be something done about actual shit like the AI bs or actual lolicon, but it's a huge slippery slope that could catch anyone in the crossfire.

 

[Po's Cootah]

See, this is a better take on the point than just going "Lolicon is free speech" like this retard @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST was trying to convey.

There's no doubt that there should be something done about actual shit like the AI bs or actual lolicon, but it's a huge slippery slope that could catch anyone in the crossfire.

It's a seemingly victimless crime and a way to convey free speech... Until when it puts real children in danger by using them as prompts and references. Until when pedophiles try to use lolicon to groom children with or put on public spaces like YouTube for everyone to see. It's way different from hentai out of a busty Hatsune Miku.

 

[Dofu]

I don't think a USA made Tupperware is related to a Terrorist organization subject to military force

You need to keep your c4 fresh, don't you?

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

well this thread was fun

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

disgust does not and should not define morality

Why not? What should then?

Arresting someone and registering them as a sex offender just because they had rule 34 of Uraraka Ochako or Kim Possible on their hard drive is just stupid and just unnecessary censorship.

It may be excessive punishment but it's certainly not unnecessary censorship. If that's unnecessary then what would be necessary?

What one likes in fiction doesn't always dictate what they like in real life.

Would you not think a person into gore hentai should be psychologically evaluated at minimum? There's limits even in fiction.

 

[Po's Cootah]

Why not? What should then?

Whether it harms other people or not. What @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST did not realize is that lolicon can harm actual children if it's used as a tool to groom or to sexualize them.

It may be excessive punishment but it's certainly not unnecessary censorship. If that's unnecessary then what would be necessary?

Going after the ones who involve real children into their works or are creepy about their lolicon fetish. There is a difference between porn of an aged-up Kim Possible and a Cuphead parody of Daisy's Destruction (yes, the latter is real, made by none other than Kikiizuri).

Would you not think a person into gore hentai should be psychologically evaluated at minimum? There's limits even in fiction.

Probably, but again, that doesn't mean they always condone that in real life. However, there is always a chance of that person not being able to tell fiction from reality or projecting their already twisted kinks onto gore hentai. There is also a chance that the people is grooming others with it or drawing gore out of an actual person. That's the problem.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

If the characters are drawn aged up, it wouldn't be lolicon, it'd just be porn with adults.

Ah yes. All I need to do is state, "all models are aged 18+," and suddenly I didn't draw a little girl. She's totally 18, see? I drew her with wider hips and larger breasts. No, I wasn't thinking about how hot that 12 year old character is when I drew this.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

If the characters are drawn aged up, it wouldn't be lolicon, it'd just be porn with adults.

What if the disclaimer says "All characters are 18+, even if stated otherwise"

 

["Controlled Demolition"]

What if the disclaimer says "All characters are 18+, even if stated otherwise"

Then you know it's either a fed account or the usual twitter loli/shota artist. The number of exclamations after "MINORS FUCK OFF" correlates with one or the either, I don't know which yet.

 

[Po's Cootah]

What if the disclaimer says "All characters are 18+, even if stated otherwise"

"even if stated otherwise"

 

[FuluFuckwit]

"even if stated otherwise"

"So this is Frisk from Undertale right?"
"Yup"
"Isn't he a kid?"
"In game, he is, but this depiction is actually over the age of 18!"
".......he's still drawn like a child?"
"But he isn't one in this piece! Every character I draw is actually 18!"
"OK buddy, and jail is just a fun vacation to a state funded BDSM gay brothel."

I hate people that do this and it's always morally correct to point them out as what they are.

 

[Po's Cootah]

"So this is Frisk from Undertale right?"
"Yup"
"Isn't he a kid?"
"In game, he is, but this depiction is actually over the age of 18!"
".......he's still drawn like a child?"
"But he isn't one in this piece! Every character I draw is actually 18!"
"OK buddy, and jail is just a fun vacation to a state funded BDSM gay brothel."

I hate people that do this and it's always morally correct to point them out as what they are.

(In that case, just draw Frisk as an adult with a developed body, longer hair and different clothes, it's not that hard.)
These depictions be like:

 

[Not 6 Foot]

(In that case, just draw Frisk as an adult with a developed body, longer hair and different clothes, it's not that hard.)

But then it's not immediately recognizable as Frisk and defeats the purpose of drawing Frisk in a pornographic manner.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

"even if stated otherwise"

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that was shadman's disclaimer on his website

 

[Not 6 Foot]

that was shadman's disclaimer on his website

Wasn't it more unless stated otherwise?