Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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    Votes: 165 34.4%
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So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?
Interesting? No.

Russ sperging about shit he can't prove KF is perpetrating and continuing to whine that Mr Hardin should be held in the same regard professionally as Rekieta because he still doesn't understand the SPO? Yes.
 
So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?
We were promised a motion for sanctions against Hardin, and now that everything else is on pause, Russ finally has time to deliver!

Also there's no way he lets that challenge to IFP stand unanswered for two months. Russ doesn't have the mental capacity to argue multiple things in one hearing, or organize his notes to assist him. He's going to file his answers to everything ahead of time. Then in the hearing when asked to respond to Hardin he's going to say "yeah, uh, for that, I think I already made everything clear in my motion".
 
Disclaimer: This is current US rules as written, not what I personally advocate for or agree with. In my view, Johm has the right to use force to defend himself against any kind of "intellectual property dispute"
Seriously, disagreeing that this is the actual state of the law is disagreeing with reality.
That is not true at all. Some readings may very well be untransformative, others clearly transformative.
It's not at all the sort of thing you want to be arguing unless you can afford Morrison & Foerster where six figures is just your "let's get this thing started" retainer.
I reckon a full verbatim reading is almost 100% guaranteed not to qualify for fair use.
This is almost always going to be the case.

Also a straight reading might almost never qualify for fair use, but what about a QUEER reading? Half-joking. Not going to go into any details because it would involve discussing case law that might help a certain slurping, drooling mongoloid.
 
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So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?
We will definitely see a "poll" thats worth all the extra space at the top of a thread, and maybe one that changes the destiny of the thread itself. Also we will see Greer claim those posting scans of his book in the thread as additional support of the copyright claim.

Polls are fucking gay
 
So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?
I think Greer is going to run out the clock. He didn’t get an immediate rejection for his bond motion so clearly that means there’s a chance. Even though he could totally pay the amount in full by his own filings he’s going to wait on that to be settled.

I think he’s going to do nothing else to move the case forward. He’s got stuff to do ahead of the May date but why bother? It’s worked for years now to be a dumb lump and creatively misunderstand the Court’s instructions. Why start being competent now?

One thing that might generate another motion is some kind of sanction attempt against Harding. He’s a vindictive little shit and is happy to spend time trying to take down buddy boy a peg.
 
I think Greer is going to run out the clock. He didn’t get an immediate rejection for his bond motion so clearly that means there’s a chance. Even though he could totally pay the amount in full by his own filings he’s going to wait on that to be settled.

I think he’s going to do nothing else to move the case forward. He’s got stuff to do ahead of the May date but why bother? It’s worked for years now to be a dumb lump and creatively misunderstand the Court’s instructions. Why start being competent now?

One thing that might generate another motion is some kind of sanction attempt against Harding. He’s a vindictive little shit and is happy to spend time trying to take down buddy boy a peg.
I wouldn't be shocked if he thinks "handling other cases" means "I'm not going to pay any attention to this case" Via russ logic.

I dont expect him to go after Hardin, because I think he's exhausted and needs time to focus on being a creep towards women, but I wouldn't be shocked if he attempts to get Hardin status revoked or start the process of a BAR complaint. I legitimately have no idea how either one works, but the good news is Russell probably doesn't either, and that's never stopped him before!
 
So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?

Unlikely until and unless the judge denies Russ's motion for a bond at which point we'll get his typical motion to undo the thing which has already been done. Not particularly interesting, but always good for a laugh. Otherwise, maybe when we get closer to the hearing date, but if you give Greer nearly two months he's going to squander almost all of it before he does anything. He'll probably file some last minute motion to try to get the hearing date changed for asinine reasons.

If he's using this time for anything it's to try to intervene in some other case related to hookers that no one asked him (or wants him) to intervene in. There's always an outside chance of him starting new litigation against some hooker who he believes slighted him. Again, not particularly interesting, but still good for a laugh.
 
Morrison & Foerster
Best short-form firm reference ever (“MoFo,” for anyone not familiar).


I think he’s going to do nothing else to move the case forward. He’s got stuff to do ahead of the May date but why bother? It’s worked for years now to be a dumb lump and creatively misunderstand the Court’s instructions.
Bc he has lumps and plights and he needs you to understand. Duh?

He'll probably file some last minute motion to try to get the hearing date changed for asinine reasons.
Or just show up to the hearing 37 minutes late, explaining how he put it down wrong in his calendar because 17 years ago he was evicted due to Joshua Moon (a website) having unleashed flying monkeys who screeched at him just when he was about to charm the pants off the professional in Room Suite 5, and attempt to hand the judge 17 new filings stained with grease (origin: unknown).
 
So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?
I think at some point prior to the hearing Russ will file an omnibus sperg-out on all pending motions. Probably in that he'll also either request new/additional relief or make some accusation that requires a response either way. The real question is if it's something that will raise enough of a claim to require a new round of (retarded) briefing .
 
So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?

I was expecting a spergout filing about the In Forma Pauperis review that uses Greer's own statements as evidence, stating that he is a poor man who works 12 hours a day just to afford brothels a car and complaining about Hardin bullying him with laws and proper rules of conduct and shit, but I guess he's going to save his "I'm just a poor retard trying to do his best in this cruel, unforgiving world" speech for a live audience.
 
I know this is going against the popular zeitgeist of the thread, but I think all the posters repeating the mantra of, "the judge is on a death march to trial," are hyperbolic emo retards who aren't actually paying attention to what the judge has been saying. Back in the fall when there were all those motions Hardin made that got denied, where Hardin was saying, "This should get thrown out, that should get thrown out, the case should get thrown out," the judges rational for denying the motions was mostly along the lines of, "This isn't the time to be making that motion." The judge wasn't banging his gavel and screaming, "I want a trial!" He was saying, "I would like this case to behave like a proper case."

You can see this explicitly stated in the hearing on discovery, where Hardin was saying, "I need all this extra leeway, because I anticipate the plaintiff is going to pull shenanigans and I'll have to deal with that," and the judge said, "Let's all assume that everyone is going to behave themselves and follow the rules, and we're only going to account for shenanigans if they actually happen. I have lovely rulebook, and even a video to watch, so everyone should be fully able to follow my rules and this should all proceed smoothly."

Now that the judge has called for a new hearing, I think he's very frustrated that all his attempts to make this function like a real case have failed and his docket is cluttered with shenanigan upon shenanigan and he's determined to get everything straightened out. I hope Hardin has a very clear explanation for why he asked for impermissible discovery on discovery, because (while we understand it is in response to Russell apparently deleting evidence in the middle of a court case) he wasn't handling the issue according to the rules, and lawyers are held to a higher standard there than self-representing retards. Either way, I anticipate that the judge is going to hammer on the subject of everyone following the rules, and Russ' discovery games aren't going to bode well for him. I hope Russ is going to be able to show the court that he has taken steps to serve the new defendants to the lawsuit, and that he hasn't simply tacked on a few more parties with no actual plan for how to get them served, because adding new parties with no intention of following through on the work that entails is a pretty big shenanigan, and I don't imagine the judge will appreciate it.

Very interesting to read your take. Please post more.

I think what you are saying should be read carefully by all parties.

I would ask of you, if judge want case to behave like a proper case, why did he cut down the 5000$ fee and put it at only 1k? This have been stated in the thread is not the proper procedure.
 
So, does anyone think we'll see anything interesting before the hearing?
Sure all pending motions are halted, sure one of them is about freezing/restarting discovery due to new complaint and defendants, but shouldn't discovery move on meanwhile?
I know it has to be weighted against pissing off the magistrate, but Hardin mentioned 20+ requests to go still a while ago, and time's a'tickin, 2 months of inactivity I don't think he can afford, especially if Russ has got to get dragged with his nails sinked in the floor for each one like a cat refusing to take his "Stop hating Tommy C" pills.

So there you go, unlikely, but I hope for a banger of a new Request for Production that blows open a new avenue for checkmating good ol' Godfrey I couldn't have even imagined.
 
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