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Should be a wild four years.

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I'm compiling these because I'm starting to think the dems are planning something. The hairless wonder at the top of the stack is a straight up paid DNC shill, so if he's saying this shit then wheels are in motion.

Oh and "it" refers to assassinating Trump if you're unclear. The FBI really needs to get on that before one of these crazies gets motivated.
They already tried assassinating Trump and failed. DNC is a party of failure and mental illness, everything they will try will end up backfiring on them.
 
Honestly, I don't see how people let the media et al. dictate the conversation like that.
You're assuming these people are honest and simply want to have all the facts. They don't care about facts, they want the new software update that fixes the glitch that's causing their cognitive dissonance. Even if its 24 hours of dead silence after the story breaks, they'll wait patiently for their update, then they can go back to self-soothing and brazenly, knowingly lying because that counts as activism or something now.
 
If Biden says, "Yes, I pardoned them" and Trump still wants to undo them, you and every other brainwashed MAGA retard in this thread will 100% support undoing them. I guarantee you that would happen.
That was also discussed and yes, you are correct. All Biden has to do is say "I knew about the pardons" and case is mostly dead. The current running theory is either Biden himself is the one asserting he had no idea about them, or Trump has some evidence that Biden had no idea about them. It appears like he might have evidence of that as of right now. It's possible Biden even told Trump he didn't know about them. We don't know anything else yet.

The other issue is they can't just say Biden's incapable and hand wave this away either because that argument doesn't hold ground without simultaneously admitting he didn't have control. Anyway, now you're all caught up with the news.

(Not arguing, just want to inform you what was already discussed previously in this thread)

sounds like the faggot is worried about getting impeached. lol
It's also Roberts going full mask drop. Rare sight to see.
 
Literally just because the people they don't like are wanting it to stop.

They're operating off of the most base of perceptions. They are the good guys, the other side is the bad guys. Therefore, anything we want to do is good, anything they want to do is bad. If they want to deport these people, then deporting these people is bad and should be opposed. Since we are opposing it, that makes opposing it good.
They're right we shouldn't be deporting these people, we should be grinding them
 
That was also discussed and yes, you are correct. All Biden has to do is say "I knew about the pardons" and case is mostly dead. The current running theory is either Biden himself is the one asserting he had no idea about them, or Trump has some evidence that Biden had no idea about them. It appears like he might have evidence of that as of right now. It's possible Biden even told Trump he didn't know about them.

The other issue is they can't just say Biden's incapable and hand wave this away either because that argument doesn't hold ground without simultaneously admitting he didn't have control. Anyway, now you're all caught up with the news.

(Not arguing, just want to inform you what was already discussed previously in this thread)
Bullshit dude. If Biden says that he did indeed issue the pardons and Trump doubles down on undoing them, the people in this thread will still 100% support him doing so. Trump can do anything and they bend over backwards to defend him
 
You're assuming these people are honest and simply want to have all the facts. They don't care about facts, they want the new software update that fixes the glitch that's causing their cognitive dissonance. Even if its 24 hours of dead silence after the story breaks, they'll wait patiently for their update, then they can go back to self-soothing and brazenly, knowingly lying because that counts as activism or something now.
People should learn more from the likes of Stephen Miller. They don't argue in good faith, so don't entertain their premises. Don't talk about autopens when it's not the autopens that are the issue, but the probable cause that the person who "signed" them probably didn't.
 
Which country was Biden in two days before the inauguration?
He was back in the US visiting various states recovering from his naptime in Angola. I think there's a case to be made for staffers going wild with the autopen made off of the fact he was back in the US and he could have signed those last pardons by hand. I wouldn't be surprised if some staffers were making bank on selling his signatures to people.

.....Why the fuck do they want foreign criminals so much? These fuckers are of no value to society.
Why is this of all things the hill these insufferable fucks want to die on?
Because they hate the citizens of the US and would hand everything to foreigners over us. They hate themselves if they're white and they mostly benefit from the continued destruction of the US if they're some form of minority.

This heat map shows where the difference between values is at. They care about random rocks over their own families.

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I believe the argument is not that Trump is undoing pardons. The argument is that this power belongs solely with the President and that Biden did not issue the pardons, but his staffers did. Therefore, the argument goes, Biden never actually pardoned anyone.

You don't have to buy it, but I figured I'd clarify.

Correct. Anyone who insinuates that it's anything but this is either arguing in bad faith or a gullible idiot that believes the bought and paid for midwit journoscum who are arguing in bad faith with the explicit intent of riling said gullible idiots up. Everyone aside from the most brainwashed blue-no-matter-who sycophants knows biden is mentally shot and has been for years, and this whole thing is stemming from the fact that a bunch of the pardons were clearly handled in a different manner than many of biden's other pardons. And for Trump, why not go after your political opponents while they cry about it being retaliation? They've spent the last 8 years doing the exact same shit.
 
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I'm compiling these because I'm starting to think the dems are planning something. The hairless wonder at the top of the stack is a straight up paid DNC shill, so if he's saying this shit then wheels are in motion.

Oh and "it" refers to assassinating Trump if you're unclear. The FBI really needs to get on that before one of these crazies gets motivated.
Even at their most deranged they still want somebody other than them to put in the effort.

Classic leftie
 
The unredacted JFK files will show that no one shot him and his head just did that.
ngl I'm hoping it's the dark horse of "there is a horrible medical condition of Scanners Head brought about by constant exposure to leaded gasoline like riding around slowly in convertibles , and only now that it's gone from society can we talk about it so there wasn't panic in the streets"
 
Bullshit dude. If Biden says that he did indeed issue the pardons and Trump doubles down on undoing them, the people in this thread will still 100% support him doing so. Trump can do anything and they bend over backwards to defend him
Maybe. The story hasn't really played out yet. A lot of people came in here vocalizing their displeasure with this for all the reasons you stated above. Trump clearly has something that hasn't come out yet. I think where people ultimately fall on this will largely depend on what actually happens and so far nothing has really happened yet. So we'll see.

For me personally, you are correct. I'm in the scorched earth camp, all be damned. A lot of people though are not in that camp with me.
 
He was back in the US visiting various states recovering from his naptime in Angola. I think there's a case to be made for staffers going wild with the autopen made off of the fact he was back in the US and he could have signed those last pardons by hand. I wouldn't be surprised if some staffers were making bank on selling his signatures to people.


Because they hate the citizens of the US and would hand everything to foreigners over us. They hate themselves if they're white and they mostly benefit from the continued destruction of the US if they're some form of minority.

This heat map shows where the difference between values is at. They care about random rocks over their own families.

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They also have zero values as people, so the only thing banding them together is this "All hands on deck, get him out of there" mentality that is so strong they will defend anything in order to get. him. out. It's why you witness strange phenomena like Trump's inauguration speech. They hated not being able to stand for things that are objectively good, they knew how bad it makes them look. Their ability to reason with themselves is locked away behind their militant belief in "get him out at all costs". It's kinda like a nazi mindset if you think about it. "We must secure a future for the Our Democracy"
 
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