UK Boys need role models not gaming and porn, Sir Gareth Southgate says

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Sir Gareth Southgate says he fears young men are spending too much time gaming, gambling and watching pornography - and they need better role models beyond online influencers.

In a wide-ranging talk for the BBC's annual Richard Dimbleby Lecture, the ex-England men's football manager spoke about his own experience of missing a crucial penalty at Euro 96, saying he didn't let it define him.

"That pain still haunts me today," he said, "and I guess it always will."

Referencing his own experiences, he said the UK needed to do more to encourage young people - especially young men - to make the right choices in life and to not fear failure.

Rather than turning to teachers, sports coaches or youth group leaders, Sir Gareth said he feared many young men were searching for direction online. There, he said they were finding a new kind of role model, one that too often did not have their best interests at heart.

"These are callous, manipulative and toxic influencers, whose sole drive is for their own gain," he said.

"They willingly trick young men into believing that success is measured by money or dominance, that strength means never showing emotion, and that the world, including women, is against them."

Sir Gareth spoke about missing the crucial penalty in the 1996 Euros semi-final, when England lost to Germany.

"Missing that penalty was undoubtedly a watershed moment that made me stronger, a better man," Sir Gareth said at the lecture. "It forced me to dig deep, and revealed an inner belief and resilience I never knew existed."

He contrasted his own miss with Eric Dier's successful penalty kick against Colombia in 2018, when - with Sir Gareth as manager - England won a World Cup penalty shootout for the first time.

During the intervening 22 years, he said there had been a change in mindset among England players.

"In 1996, I had walked 30 yards to the penalty spot believing I would miss," he said. "In 2018, Eric had walked 30 yards to the penalty spot believing he would score."

During Sir Gareth's career as a defender and midfielder, he played for Crystal Palace, Aston Villa and Middlesbrough and was in the England squad between 1995 and 2004. He took over as manager in 2016 and led the team to the 2018 World Cup semi-final, 2022 World Cup quarter-final and Euro finals in 2020 and 2024.

He stepped down as manager in July, two days after England lost to Spain in the Euros.

Sir Gareth has been credited with revitalising the England team and was knighted in the King's New Year Honours in December.

He is the latest in a line of academics, business leaders and other notable figures to deliver the Richard Dimbleby Lecture, which has been held most years since 1972 in memory of the broadcaster.

Previous speakers have included King Charles III, when he was the Prince of Wales, tech entrepreneur and philanthropist Bill Gates, and Christine Lagarde, then the managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

'Too many young men are isolated'

Sir Gareth's talk focused on the importance of belief and resilience for young men, and he cited three things needed to build these: identity, connection and culture.

He referred to a report, released earlier this month by the Centre for Social Justice, which said boys and young men were "in crisis", with a "staggering" increase in those not in education, employment or training.

"Too many young men are isolated," Sir Gareth said in his talk. "Too many feel uncomfortable opening up to friends or family. Many don't have mentors - teachers, coaches, bosses - who understand how best to push them to grow. And so, when they struggle, young men inevitably try to handle whatever situation they find themselves in, alone."

"Young men end up withdrawing, reluctant to talk or express their emotions," he added. "They spend more time online searching for direction and are falling into unhealthy alternatives like gaming, gambling and pornography."

He also said young men don't get enough opportunities to fail and learn from their mistakes.

"In my opinion, if we make life too easy for young boys now, we will inevitably make life harder when they grow up to be young men," he said. "Too many young men are at risk of fearing failure, precisely because they've had so few opportunities to experience and overcome it. They fail to try, rather than try and fail."

The ex-footballer also reflected on what his career has taught him about belief and resilience.

"If I've learned anything from my life in football, it's that success is much more than the final score," he said. "True success is how you respond in the hardest moments."

The Richard Dimbleby Lecture with Sir Gareth Southgate is broadcast at 10.40pm on BBC One and available on iPlayer now

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Are there role models in Britain considering they let the country get to where it is at today?
A few but they’re all ancient and ‘problematic.’ Our last Battle of Britain pilot just died. Our scientists are labelled as racist. Our farming car enthusiasts are nazis. Our explorers are sidelined and the dead ones are racist colonisers. Most of our musicians were neutered. comedians rent allowed to be funny any more. It’s no longer acceptable to want to be an astronaut or rock star or explorer
Frankly neither boys or girls have good role models at the moment. The girls are directed towards girlbossing or only fans/pop and the boys towards get rich quick TikTok shit. Bit depressing.
 
I agree with soufgate on this, but he’s also the race cuck who put 3 niggers out to kick pens in the Euros and ended up losing because all 3 choked harder than a faggot on a cock.
Thus proving that darkies can be true Englishmen.
 
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What’s even left for kids to do these days? You can’t let them roam free any more. They’re not allowed to do adventurous stuff like shoot arrows at barns. And even stuff like building tree houses is out because dangerous and you can’t let them go play in the woods all day. They’re told off at school if they’re too active and made to sit behind desks. All the exciting books on exploration are deemed problematic. What do you expect kids to DO?
Unless they’re at a fancy school with a music room they can go start a band in, or a very very fancy school with Grounds to explore and regular ski strips and canoeing they’re going to kick a ball around the playground and play video games. Scouts? Has girls in. Guides? Has boys in and leaders who are trannies. Complete mess.
Southgate is an annoying wanker. A decent manager for sure but just annoyingly wet on social issues.
 
“If I were a father and had a son who became a gambler and porn addict, I should not despair over him, I would continue to hope for his salvation. But if I had a son who became a soccer player and continued to be one for five years, I would give him up." — Kierkegaard
 
What’s even left for kids to do these days? You can’t let them roam free any more. They’re not allowed to do adventurous stuff like shoot arrows at barns. And even stuff like building tree houses is out because dangerous and you can’t let them go play in the woods all day. They’re told off at school if they’re too active and made to sit behind desks. All the exciting books on exploration are deemed problematic. What do you expect kids to DO?
Unless they’re at a fancy school with a music room they can go start a band in, or a very very fancy school with Grounds to explore and regular ski strips and canoeing they’re going to kick a ball around the playground and play video games. Scouts? Has girls in. Guides? Has boys in and leaders who are trannies. Complete mess.
Southgate is an annoying wanker. A decent manager for sure but just annoyingly wet on social issues.
How do you solve this with your own; I feel like mine are in a lot of 'activities' but they are very keen on them
 
What’s even left for kids to do these days? You can’t let them roam free any more. They’re not allowed to do adventurous stuff like shoot arrows at barns. And even stuff like building tree houses is out because dangerous and you can’t let them go play in the woods all day. They’re told off at school if they’re too active and made to sit behind desks. All the exciting books on exploration are deemed problematic. What do you expect kids to DO?
Unless they’re at a fancy school with a music room they can go start a band in, or a very very fancy school with Grounds to explore and regular ski strips and canoeing they’re going to kick a ball around the playground and play video games. Scouts? Has girls in. Guides? Has boys in and leaders who are trannies. Complete mess.
Southgate is an annoying wanker. A decent manager for sure but just annoyingly wet on social issues.
I would generally want kids to drift towards good media and good historical role models. That's what happened to me and that's what I plan to do to my kids as well. I'll slide my son or daughter a copy of an A rated film when they're 11 or 12 (scott eastwood watched unforgiven when he was 8, I watched fight club when I was 15, it's not an issue I would probably get them to watch T2 or Shawshank or something like that) and give them complex literature at 16. That should get the ball rolling as to what their interests would be. Part of growing up is having reliable sources of media and information which would prove inspirational. Part of it is self motivated exploration and discovery.
 
How do you solve this with your own; I feel like mine are in a lot of 'activities' but they are very keen on them
I dont feel it’s solvable. We are lucky enough to live somewhere where they can actually go out and play semi rural but I’d not be so keen on them being out all day like I used to be. School is a bit useless, I guess yours have more facilities there for stuff. Ours is just bog standard state school.
They’re not keen on ‘activities’ in the main, one has a sport they like to do which goes through school but the others aren’t keen. I was the same, I felt school was tiring enough and we both work long hours so regularly attending anything on school nights is out. The local sports clubs are run by insane lunatics like a kind of quasi mafia, to the point they stress the kids out and I refuse to be anywhere near them . It’s all so competitive, it takes the fun out of it. Want to play football? Ok well you’ll have to train five nights a week. I mean they’re KIDS they can’t be doing that and neither can most parents. It’s crazy.
I look back and I had zero activities, I was just left alone to wander around all day and read books. No computer, no mobiles. Be home by dark. I wish I’d had music lessons but we just didn’t, nobody near us did.
Kids need to be bored and they need the outdoors to be bored in.
 
These fags only want men to be men in a way that benefits them. No breeding, no demanding, no negotiating, no resisting, no advancing, no dreaming, and no saving. They don't want men to be men: they want soulless automatons that do what they're told and don't complain about it unless it's to show how "in touch with their emotions" (i,e pussy) they are. It's the same with the modern woman who thinks they're being traditional by demanding a man pay for all her things even though she doesn't act like a traditional woman in any way that doesn't benefit herself.

Why the fuck do you think the retarded nonsense of "toxic" masculinity came into being? Why do you think the joke of female prison guards spreading their legs for criminals for free exists? Goddamn cognitive fucking dissonance everywhere. Modern society is an asylum for the delusional.
 
How do you solve this with your own; I feel like mine are in a lot of 'activities' but they are very keen on them
It does unfortunately have to be a lot of activities. My son was bored by a lot of team sport stuff when he was younger but he likes athletics, tennis, swimming, kids classes at the gym, etc. It doesn't feel very organic though, as it's me driving him places and it's not great for friendship building. It will change when he's a bit older as the school he'll move up to has all of the activities he does, and more that he's interested in, so I'm hoping that will be a more natural social environment. And it will be more in his own control as he can go early/stay late at school for those things, rather than it being something he relies on his parents for.

I don't like the demonising of video games, though. There is nothing at all wrong with kids playing games as long as parents are careful about the suitability of the game and who their child might be interacting with if the game is online. It's just another form of media, I do have rules about book reading as reading for pleasure is valuable, even just in terms of improving spelling, and I make sure we have family movie/tv traditions (usually with a lot of older movies and tv series) but I'm not going to stop him gaming as there is nothing inherently wrong with it.
 
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