Celebrity Meghan Markle / Rachel Meghan Markle / Meghan, Duchess of Sussex / Meghan Sussex / The Alliterate One - Markle Snarkle

Instagram story from this morning. Man she day drinks a lot, she was tossing them back throughout her show too.


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She might be mixing up a bowl of something, but that is 100% an Eggo waffle and spray can whipped cream. So elegant, so elevated, live like a Duchess, be inspired? There are Mormon housewives in Kansas who can out-cook and out-food style Meghan.
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Look, kids, mommy made you a blue waffle in the toaster!

ETA: late and gay, throw clocks at me
 
Alright everybody who is still calling her a cunning genius, state your case. Because I used to think maybe she was fairly smart but clearly she has absolutely zero theory of mind - she evidently did not think people would be able to see with their own eyes that the waffles are clearly warmed frozen, not made in the iron.

Actually I wonder if that illustrates, rather than simply being dumb, that she is becoming more mentally ill as time goes on and losing her ability to understand how normies perceive her. I always figured that she has some form of NPD with anxiety due to how erratically she behaves in public with the twitching, tongue flicking, hair twiddling, etc. and also the always choosing a victim for her bullying endeavors, per Knauf.

The negative press that she constantly brings upon herself must be really getting to her.
I believe the kiwi on a green eggo was a sweet nod from Meghan discovering her PG @duckling thread here.

She's cunning but not the genius she believes herself to be, and she has absolutely no emotional intelligence.
At most she's a point or few above "H" in IQ so maybe in high 80s to low 90s.

From day zero and once her claws couldn't be pried from "H", Meghan had stalked the DM to photo her in wellies and country wear in front of their building on a rain free day in London, got a sultry/slutty "Wild About Harry" cover on VF when no one had a clue who she was, PR release from palace per Harry regarding leave her alone/breach at her Suits home in Toronto that didn't happen, and also invaded Invictus in Toronto and a wedding in Carribean.

IMO she's just dumb and has mental issues, but really hasn't changed much from since the day she was 11 and got attention via dad that men could also wash dishes.
 
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got a sultry/slutty "Wild About Harry" cover on VF when no one had a clue who she was
I'd forgotten about that cover. It all happened so fast that this almost seems like an artefact from an alternate universe where Meghan didn't fuck everything up

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Meghan Markle was going to London. She had a week’s hiatus before returning to Toronto to film the 100th episode of Suits, a surprise-hit series on the USA Network, now in its seventh season. On a rainy afternoon in June, Markle came to her front door and welcomed me into her home, on a quiet, tree-lined street in Toronto. Markle was wearing a red, knee-length floral dress (“Erdem, a designer I’ve been wearing for years”), with her rescue dogs, Bogart and Guy, wagging their tails beside her. A slim brunette with a lightly freckled, glowing complexion and an upturned nose, she looks like the sun-kissed California girl she’s always been.

Markle had prepared a lunch of organic greens, a crusty bread to be dipped in olive oil, and pasta tossed with chilies bought from “a little place called Terroni, which they have in L.A. and in Toronto. They’re really hot, but if you’re good with heat, then I think they’re going to be your new favorite thing . . . I’ll give you a little jar to take home.” Her warmth is genuine. She seems to be the happy genius of her home of seven years. “Seven Canadian winters!” she exclaims about her time filming Suits. “A long time for someone who grew up in Southern California.” She has tried to make her Canadian house look like a California bungalow, exposing the hardwood floors and letting in as much light as possible.

For almost a year, rumors have flown about the romance between the 36-year-old actress and Britain’s 33-year-old Prince Harry—the redheaded hell-raiser, former army captain who had completed two tours of duty in Afghanistan, and all-around favorite royal. If Markle and Prince Harry are indeed headed to the altar, she will become the first American to marry into the royal family since Wallis Simpson famously wed King Edward VIII, forcing his abdication from the throne, almost 81 years ago.

Markle is the calm in the center of the media storm inspired by her year-long relationship with the prince. The couple met in London through friends in July 2016, Markle says. Since then, media coverage of their romance has been so intense—and much of it so unpleasant—that Prince Harry was moved to issue a statement asking the press and public, essentially, to back off. They haven’t. Even Bogart and Guy have become Instagram stars.
Markle, new to fame, has handled the hoopla with surprising aplomb. “It has its challenges, and it comes in waves—some days it can feel more challenging than others,” she says. “And right out of the gate it was surprising the way things changed. But I still have this support system all around me, and, of course, my boyfriend’s support.”

While arguably the most popular member of the British royal family, Prince Harry is also the most iconoclastic. He’s loved for having been the bad boy in his youth and now the regular guy of the family, for his 10 years of army service, including his time in Afghanistan (the only place he ever felt “normal,” he’s said), and in recent years for his philanthropy on behalf of combat veterans.

V.F. contributing editor Sally Bedell Smith, who wrote a biography of Prince Charles, says, “Harry, who could have been the scapegrace sibling, was that for a while.” There was the widely released photo of him looking tipsy at a London nightclub. There was the scuffle with a photographer outside another London nightclub at around three A.M. that resulted in the photographer’s cut lip. There was the “Colonials and Natives” costume party of 2005, in Wiltshire, to which Harry came dressed like Nazi general Erwin Rommel, complete with desert uniform, German Wehrmacht badge, and swastika armband. A photo of the prince in this costume landed on page one of the British tabloid The Sun. The public was outraged, and Harry apologized. More recently, cell-phone pictures of Harry carousing with friends in Las Vegas in 2012 went viral. “It was probably a classic case of me being too much army and not enough prince,” he later admitted.

After Harry ended his stint in the army, he focused on veterans’ issues. In September 2014, he organized the Invictus Games, a charity event for wounded combat veterans named after the 1875 William Ernest Henley poem schoolboys in England once had to memorize, with the famous lines “I am the master of my fate / I am the captain of my soul.” When Harry turned 30, he inherited $16 million from the estate of his mother, Princess Diana, and that is when he determined to spend his time and efforts supporting veterans with physical and psychological injuries.

As Diana’s younger son, Harry continues to bask in the public’s love for “the People’s Princess.” He has been forgiven his occasional wildness, his drift, the acting out of a broken heart that had sent him into grief counseling in his late 20s. As the royal favorite, there is keen interest in—and much speculation about—the woman he may marry. A rumor floating in cyberspace has that he popped the question last month when they were vacationing in Botswana.

As in the 1957 Marilyn Monroe-Laurence Olivier film, The Prince and the Showgirl, a feeding frenzy surrounds royal-and-nonroyal couplings. Though Markle is extremely pretty and she stars in a TV show, you would never call her a “showgirl.” She is too serious, too well brought up. (And outside of Vegas, who’s called a “showgirl” anymore?) “Grounded” is the word that is often used to describe her.

“I was born and raised in Los Angeles, a California girl who lives by the ethos that most things can be cured with either yoga, the beach, or a few avocados,” she once wrote. Until recently, she maintained a popular lifestyle blog called The Tig. She is a self-described foodie, a passion, incidentally, given to her character on Suits. “I mean, this bread is so good!” she enthuses over the delicious meal she prepared. “It’s that perfect crunch and then the softness. They call it the ‘crumb,’ all of these little holes—oh!”

Suits, in which Markle plays ambitious paralegal turned lawyer Rachel Zane, first brought the actress to wide attention. (Before that she’d appeared briefly in the movies A Lot Like Love and Horrible Bosses and had minor roles on television in the science-fiction drama Fringe and the soap opera General Hospital, among others.) I asked the boyishly attractive, 36-year-old actor Patrick J. Adams, who plays the likable but fraudulent lawyer Mike Ross, Rachel’s love interest on Suits, to describe the series and its popularity.

“Getting to 100 episodes is pretty surreal,” Adams says. “I never thought that a story about six people working in a law firm in New York City would be something that would capture people’s interest all over the globe. I was backpacking through New Zealand a couple of years ago and stopped to help a Swedish guy who had twisted his ankle. He looked up at me, and his eyes went wide, and all he could talk about was how badly he wanted Mike and Rachel to figure things out.”

Mike Ross’s relationship with Rachel Zane is one of those long, simmering teases that take several episodes to come to a boil, but it was clear from their first meeting that they were meant to be together. “I think Mike and Rachel are a classic Romeo-and-Juliet story,” Adams believes. “They come from totally different sides of the tracks. Rachel has taken the path well traveled, worked hard, and followed the rules of the game. Mike is a naturally gifted, brilliant guy but has followed exactly none of the rules.”
When it came to casting Rachel Zane, “we needed somebody in the role that was absolutely engaging, relatable, young enough, who is beautiful in a non-traditional way, and who had an authenticity,” says Bonnie Hammer, chairman of NBCUniversal Cable Entertainment Group.

Aaron Korsh, the show’s creator, recalls that Rachel Zane was particularly challenging to cast because the role required “toughness and attitude while still being likable. . . . We all looked at each other [after Markle’s screen test] like, Wow, this is the one! I think it’s because Meghan has the ability to be smart and sharp but without losing her sweetness.”
When she auditioned for the role, Markle showed up in black jeans, a plum-colored spaghetti-strap top, and heels. It suddenly occurred to her that for the screen test she needed to look less casual and more like a lawyer. She dashed into an H&M and bought a little black dress for $35. Sure enough, she was asked to change into the dress, which she hadn’t even tried on. Thank God it fit.

“My parents had been so supportive,” she told V.F., “watching me audition, trying to make ends meet, taking all the odds-and-ends jobs to pay my bills. I was doing calligraphy, and I was a hostess at a restaurant—and all those things that actors do. My father knew how hard it is for an actor to get work, so he above all people was so proud that I was able to beat the odds.”
One of the strongest bonds Prince Harry and Markle share is their philanthropy. For Markle, it began at an early age. Her mother, Doria Ragland, made sure that her little girl knew about the greater world and its political and economic challenges when she was growing up in Los Angeles.

Meghan’s father, Thomas Markle, was a successful lighting director in Hollywood; he lit the popular sitcom Married . . . with Children and, for 35 years, General Hospital. Markle recalled, “Every day after school for 10 years, I was on the set of Married . . . with Children, which was a really funny and perverse place for a little girl in a Catholic-school uniform to grow up.”
Markle says, “What’s so incredible, you know, is that my parents split up when I was two, [but] I never saw them fight. We would still take vacations together. My dad would come on Sundays to drop me off, and we’d watch Jeopardy! eating dinner on TV trays, the three of us. . . . We were still so close-knit.” When she turned 18, she left for Northwestern University, in Evanston, Illinois—becoming the first person in her family to graduate from college—and double-majored in theater and international relations. In line with her international-relations major, Markle worked at the U.S. Embassy in Argentina her senior year, “so I had been in a completely different world and then suddenly jumped into this one.”

Markle thinks her social awareness began during the South-Central riots, in Los Angeles, sparked by the police beating of Rodney King, in 1991, and the subsequent riots in 1992, when she was 11 years old. “They had let us go home [from school] during the riots and there was ash everywhere.” As the ash from street fires sifted down on suburban lawns, Markle remembers, she said, “Oh, my God, Mommy, it’s snowing!”

“No, Flower, it’s not snow,” Doria answered. “Get in the house.”

Markle’s friends, family, and fellow actors on Suits are respectful of her relationship with Prince Harry, which has come under harsh criticism in the U.K. Tabloids report that Queen Elizabeth will be hesitant to sanction such a match for her grandson, following the ancient rule barring Catholics, commoners, and divorcées. Though not raised Catholic, Markle graduated from a Catholic high school and was married for almost two years to producer Trevor Engelson, and she adds a new wrinkle: her mother is black, her father white. Criticism of Markle has been snob-ridden, racist, and uninformed. The trolls have really gone after her.

Last November, the Daily Star Online announced, “Prince Harry could marry into gangster royalty—his new love is from a crime ridden Los Angeles neighborhood”; “the royal’s future mother-in-law still lives in Crenshaw, surrounded by bloodbath robberies and drug-induced violence.”

How does Markle handle the tabloid nonsense about her and Harry? “I can tell you that at the end of the day I think it’s really simple,” she says. “We’re two people who are really happy and in love. We were very quietly dating for about six months before it became news, and I was working during that whole time, and the only thing that changed was people’s perception. Nothing about me changed. I’m still the same person that I am, and I’ve never defined myself by my relationship.”

The media frenzy seems to bother the prince more than it does Markle. The official statement issued from Kensington Palace by his communications secretary read, in part, “Meghan Markle has been subject to a wave of abuse and harassment. . . . Prince Harry is worried about Ms. Markle’s safety and is deeply disappointed that he has not been able to protect her.” As for Markle, she prefers what the British call “ostriching.” She says, “I don’t read any press. I haven’t even read press for Suits. The people who are close to me anchor me in knowing who I am. The rest is noise.”

Markle’s parents “crafted the world around me to make me feel like I wasn’t different, but special,” as she wrote in a 2015 essay for Elle. As dolls in the 1980s were generally sold in sets of black and white, for Christmas one year her father bought “a black mom doll, a white dad doll, and a child in each color. My dad had taken the sets apart and customized my family.”
Problems began in the seventh grade, when she had to complete a mandatory census by checking one of four boxes: “white, black, Hispanic, or Asian.” The pale, freckled, curly-haired Markle felt that to choose either white or black would be a rejection of one of her parents. Her teacher told her to check “Caucasian” because she looked white, but she couldn’t. She ended up leaving the boxes unchecked. “I left my identity blank—a question mark, an absolute incomplete—much like how I felt,” she once said.

Because she is light-skinned and has not made an issue of being bi-racial—though she has embraced it—she has auditioned for white as well as black and Latina roles. There was widespread disbelief among viewers in Season Two of Suits when her black father, a high-powered lawyer played by the charismatic actor Wendell Pierce (of Treme fame), first appeared on the show—most people didn’t think her character, or the actress playing her, was bi-racial.

One thing Markle noticed about how she was perceived was that “at almost every photo shoot they would airbrush out” her freckles. “I’ve always loved my freckles,” she now says, so when she was photographed for V.F., she was “thrilled to work with Peter [Lindbergh] because he rarely retouches and he believes in such little makeup. I gave him a big hug and said, ‘I am so excited to work with you because I know we will finally be able to see my freckles!


More important, what does Queen Elizabeth think of the prospect of a marriage between her grandson and the American divorcée? When asked if she thought the Queen opposed the match, Sally Bedell Smith, who has written biographies of Queen Elizabeth, Princess Diana, and most recently Prince Charles, said, “The stakes are obviously lower in the case of Harry because he is now fifth in line to the throne [in descending order, the others are Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince George, and Princess Charlotte]. They have to be concerned—William and Harry will always have a special place because, whatever you think of Diana, she has a magical aura that continues. The fact that Harry and William are half Diana . . . that will never go away.”

“The Queen is remarkably open-minded and she’s very tolerant,” Smith observes. William was allowed to cohabit with Kate (Middleton), even though she’s the daughter of “a very middle-class family. The Queen just looked at who Kate was and that she was in love with her grandson, and that she knew how to conduct herself with dignity and discretion, and that was the most important thing. I would imagine that the Queen’s view of this would be: if they’re in love and they’re well suited, then they should proceed.”

Bonnie Hammer expressed her concern about Markle’s sudden, international fame. “She isn’t somebody who was already a celebrity, who had paparazzi tracking her day and night in Hollywood or New York or Toronto. She’s going through something that should be the most glorious and open time in her life, to be able to share, but because of circumstances, that’s very hard.”

Markle credits the rock-solid support from her close friends for helping to sustain her. The international tennis great Serena Williams (who recently graced the cover of V.F.) is one of those friends. The two met about seven years ago at the Super Bowl. “Her personality just shines,” Serena said about Markle, who asked her advice on how to handle some of the more extreme results of fame, such as paparazzi showing up at her house and chasing her. “I told her, ‘You’ve got to be who you are, Meghan. You can’t hide.’ ”

Another close friend is the Bahrain-born fashion designer Misha Nonoo. They met in Miami through a mutual friend and immediately bonded. “Her greatest strength is her compassion for others,” says Nonoo. “Much of the work she does is unseen by the public.”

Another close friend is the actress Abigail Spencer, who has been a Suits cast member. When asked why she thinks Harry was drawn to Markle, Spencer says, “She’s got warm elegance, though her style is hard to pin down. It’s classy and timeless. When you’re talking to her, you feel like you’re the only person on the planet. And it’s just wonderful to see her so in love.”

It was raining in Toronto the day we met, and while this sounds corny, it also happens to be true: as she resumed speaking about Prince Harry, the sun came out, ushering in a brilliant, warm day.

Markle suggested that we move outside into the small garden behind the house, where she opened up even more about the object of her affection, her “boyfriend,” as she calls the prince.

“We’re a couple,” she explains. “We’re in love. I’m sure there will be a time when we will have to come forward and present ourselves and have stories to tell, but I hope what people will understand is that this is our time. This is for us. It’s part of what makes it so special, that it’s just ours. But we’re happy. Personally, I love a great love story.”

Just before I filed Markle’s story, she texted me, “going where the wi-fi is weak,” which turned out to be Botswana, a place Harry first visited 20 years ago, shortly after his mother’s death—a place of healing where they celebrated Markle’s 36th birthday. Whatever the future of their relationship, one suspects that, had she lived long enough to meet Meghan, Diana—beloved for her philanthropy as well as her shy beauty—would have approved.
It's laden with irony/foreshadowing. Besides "one suspects Diana would have approved", I think my favourite bit is Meghan explaining to the reporter - Sam Kashner - what crumb means in relation to baking ("all these little holes") specifically so she can compliment her own bread. I'm sure the Vanity Fair contributing editor had no idea what "crumb" meant! You know those Vanity Fair sorts, always munching on Wonderbread.

It also has a note from the editor -
EDITOR’S NOTE: The sentence regarding the first time Markle met Prince Harry has been amended. Markle told Vanity Fair that the couple met in July 2016.
Originally it said May 2016, based on other reports. That had to get hastily amended because Meghan was still in a relationship in May 2016.
 
Originally it said May 2016, based on other reports. That had to get hastily amended because Meghan was still in a relationship in May 2016.
Not just in a relationship - she was engaged to and living with Cory Vitielllo, a Canadian chef who owned (owns?) a Toronto restaurant called Flock. Megs had to borrow a friend's place when Harry turned up to visit her in early summer 2016.
 
@duckling congrats this is the first thread on kiwifarms that transformed me from a lolcow watcher to a full hater. You completely converted me. I've been watching and reading shit on Megan and everything I read is absolutely hilarious

Old things I just found out that weren't mentioned in the thread (as far as I remember):

Harry brought Megan to his mom's grave, for some reason decided to abandon her there, and when he came back, he found Meghan meditating on the grave:

“No visit to this place was ever easy, but this one… twenty-fifth anniversary,” Prince Harry wrote in Spare. “And Meg’s first time. At long last, I was bringing the girl of my dreams home to meet mum.”

“We hesitated, hugging, and then I went first. I placed flowers on the grave. Meg gave me a moment, and I spoke to my mother in my head, told her I missed her, asked her for guidance and clarity,” he continued. “Feeling that Meg might also want a moment, I went around the hedge, scanned the pond. When I came back, Meg was kneeling, eyes shut, palms against the stone.”

I've also looked into the pregnancy faking allegations. This was only one sentence in your OP but mate it should have been an entire page this shit is hilarious.

1. She announced her pregnancy at someone else's wedding
2. There's a video of her baby bump falling. I couldn't find a video but basically these pictures summarise it:
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Now my first reaction was, "this shit is photoshopped, no way she'd be so sloppy", so I went to gettyimages. Luckily I found this picture of her literally next to someone else who's pregnant, and her bump already looks weird by comparison. But she's a model and I'm not so what the fuck do I know?

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Hell nah I'm not believing someone with that huge of a bump is rocking those heels and also doing a demi pointe plie and bending over at the same time.

I've also seen this image of Meghan squatting in the same outfit and it seems to be at the same event, but this is either photoshopped or has been scrubbed from the internet pretty well. I think it came from Alamy originally, but this is speculation on based on photography styles and that Alamy has other photos from the almost same angle but zoomed in so you can't see Meghan's posture.
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Women who have been pregnant now it's your time to powerlevel, is this shit possible?

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@duckling you're the expert here, what do you think? Do you think she faked the pregnancies? I've also read something about her having had a hysterectomy but couldn't find anything conclusive.
 

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Harry brought Megan to his mom's grave, for some reason decided to abandon her there, and when he came back, he found Meghan meditating on the grave:
That segment was what converted me from a Meghan agnostic "she's just a dim actress who got in over her head" to "this woman is a narcissistic manipulator". Spare is great for those little moments because this is Harry blithely sharing things he thinks are jolly good but are actually quite a dark picture of Meghan (and as someone else pointed out - this is the version Meghan let him release). She knew exactly what she was doing.
 
There a few reasons why I think Meghan used a surrogate. Pregnant bellies are firm as hell. You have a whole skeleton in there. They don’t squish down when you squat or sit down, in the way a flabby stomach might. They’re also not as perky and cute IRL as they are on TV, like Jennifer Aniston wearing a prosthetic on Friends. You don’t get a round protruding bump in your lower abdomen (like the “cute” TV pregnancies). You just start with a thickened waist. The reason empire waists are one of the only styles that fits is because you get bigger from right under your boobs all the way to just above your pubic area.

People often cite Meghan’s chubbier facial appearance post- Archie’s birth as proof the pregnancy was real. But normal pregnant women get a fatter face during the pregnancy itself. Check out any picture of Catherine during her third trimester; her whole face changes, even her nose.

What sealed the deal for me is: 1. Harry writing in his stupid book that Meghan was released from the hospital just 2 hours after an epidural. Bullshit. 2. Burying the miscarried fetus under a tree. Bullshit. If you’ve ever had a miscarriage, you know. 3. Not taking the opportunity to pose for a phalanx of photographers outside the hospital. Please, this is Meghan’s dream.

Also the topless photos are real and so is the sex tape.
 
@duckling congrats this is the first thread on kiwifarms that transformed me from a lolcow watcher to a full hater. You completely converted me. I've been watching and reading shit on Megan and everything I read is absolutely hilarious
Thank you, this is especially funny since I had taken the time to defend her never actually requesting privacy, actual racism experienced amongst nobility, and somewhat defended her stupid fucking titles.

@duckling you're the expert here, what do you think? Do you think she faked the pregnancies? I've also read something about her having had a hysterectomy but couldn't find anything conclusive.
Certainly not an expert but I have strong opinions on the matter. I do not think she faked her pregnancies but I do think she may have emphasized her bumps. I definitely agree that she acted shady as fuck and is entirely responsible for the skepticism. I've seen the purple dress/moon bump vids and they're hilarious but I am not convinced. I remember people being convinced at various times that Michelle Obama or Cher had penises based on fabric being fabric. The moon bump "falling" pic just looks like a shadow from the dress flicking across Meghan's knees. Anyways, my counter-evidence is as follows:

- I don’t believe heels or not is necessarily indicative of not being pregnant and have personal experience but rather than share anecdotes I will share public figures. Here is Victoria Beckham wearing absolutely grueling louboutin platform heels at Catherine and William’s wedding in 2011 while 7 months pregnant. Based on the angle of her foot I would wager without the platforms here Victoria is wearing the equivalent of 120-130s. Meghan’s heels from your pics look to be 80-100 mm which is entirely doable if you wear heels frequently which she was. Bonus Catherine in ~80-100 mm heels while 7+ months pregnant
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- Meghan’s personal rival was Catherine and I personally believe that Meghan scheduled her wedding less than 1 month after Louis' schedule arrivle to try to ensure Catherine looked like shit. Instead Catherine absolutely bounced back (not least of all because she suffered hyperemesis gravidarum, a type of morning sickness that can be so severe it can require hospitalization due to malnutrition and dehydration).
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With her intense jealousy and parasocial rivalry with Catherine, I absolutely believe Meghan would have faked bouncing back just as fast if not faster if she had used a surrogate. Instead, 2 months postpartum, Meghan looked (appropriately, it is expected for new mothers to have to lose weight in the 6-12 months postpartum) pudgy relative to her typical size. These are all photographs of Meghan in July 2019 when she was 2 months postpartum. She may look “normal” or even “thin” to your average overweight westerner, but this is significantly heavier than she usually prefers to be. Yeah she could have faked porking up, but IMO there is no way her pride would have let her with how incredible Catherine looked postpartum. She also used a lot of slimming outfits, especially dark clothes or accents around her waist at the time, probably because she felt self-conscious about her normal postpartum body.
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Here's some pics of Meghan's appropriately porky 3rd trimester face. Pregnancy weight gain in the face is such a specific face shape that (to me) it seems very obvious when it is pregnancy vs other weight gain. Additionally, Meghan is having the best hair she ever had while in the BRF due to anagen phase prolongation during pregnancy.
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For comparison, here is Meghan's face just one year earlier. As a note, these pics weren't curated, I just googled "meghan [month] [year] and picked off the first page.
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As a final note, can you just imagine the scandal if it came out that somebody relatively high in LOS was a surrogate after the fact? I'm sure eventually they may add provisions for surrogacy in case of a couple struggling with fertility, but it would be insane for the BRF to not know or try to conceal that Archie was a surrogate.

Bonus: Catherine looking porky while pregnant
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Anyways I think Meghan is way funnier beyond the surrogacy stuff so I really hope this doesn't keep coming up every 2 pages :/

ETA: new Instagram post, SHE HAS FRIENDS GUYS. it is really funny that of all the criticism she’s gotten over her new show, the one she’s been repeatedly clapping back about is the skepticism over whether anybody irl actually likes her. That one hurts the most. I wonder why?

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I have to agree about the pregnancy speculation. People being absolutely convinced that she faked her pregnancies, used surrogates or actually don’t have kids at all was partially what drove me away from the Reddit snark sub. I think @duckling makes an excellent case for why it’s more likely she used various paraphernalia to exaggerate her pregnancies for attention, rather than straight up hoodwinking the RF and the UK by extension.

Harry’s descriptions in Whaaaagh do sound really fucking weird but he is not the most reliable narrator… tbqf I think he was on a couple substances throughout the ghostwriting of the book. I also think he had to redact quite a lot of stuff before they released the book because it was impossible to prove things had happened the way he described. If at all.

ETA: I think it might actually be largely Harry’s paranoia that drove a lot of their behavior around the pregnancies and births. He genuinely seems to have developed psychotic fixations around press and PR, so he does things preemptively for scenarios he imagines will happen (that often won’t, because he overestimates the interest in him). I partially actually blame the pap climate in the 90s, which was wildly different from what we have today (I e dial-a-paps, nothing more than that).
 
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He genuinely seems to have developed psychotic fixations around press and PR, so he does things preemptively for scenarios he imagines will happen (that often won’t, because he overestimates the interest in him)
If he's that protective, why is he allowing her to show the children on IG? Also, in case of divorce, who would retain custody? I doubt she cares much about her kids, but they can be a good source of fuel until she gets under another man. And a good way to punish him.
 
ETA: I think it might actually be largely Harry’s paranoia that drove a lot of their behavior around the pregnancies and births. He genuinely seems to have developed psychotic fixations around press and PR, so he does things preemptively for scenarios he imagines will happen (that often won’t, because he overestimates the interest in him).

This is such a good point beyond the present discussion. I also believe that Meghan manipulated Harry’s paranoia to deepen his codependency on her. She’s probably regretting it now that she wants to be a full influencer queen - she probably wants to film her house and her kids but because of how long she either manipulated or simply supported his paranoia he’s likely pushing back. Like I mentioned previously, Meghan never said she wanted to herself be private, and that’s the furthest thing from what she wants. She loves attention. She believes if we simply knew the real her, we would love her as much as she tries to love herself.

If he's that protective, why is he allowing her to show the children on IG?
She’s going to wear him down one cut at a time until she can be a full momfluencer “At least I’m not showing their heads” “at least it’s the back of their heads and not their faces” “well just a little picture - we are in control of the narrative so it’s ok” until she’s fully broken down that barrier. Or maybe she’ll try to actually never show their faces like krystianatiana on Instagram, which would be the best case scenario. I think she would love the attention from “slipping” though.
 
If he's that protective, why is he allowing her to show the children on IG? Also, in case of divorce, who would retain custody? I doubt she cares much about her kids, but they can be a good source of fuel until she gets under another man. And a good way to punish him.
They’re still not showing them full face, even after all this time. Maybe it’s a case of wearing Harry down until he relents, or maybe they both gain a lot more emotionally from ~keeping the mystery going~.

I’m completely and entirely freebasing here about their relationship, but I do think they have some kind of internal ”canon” about what they’re doing and why, that may seem slightly incomprehensible from the outside. An ongoing folie a deux, if you want.

I also think Harry may be suffering from something that seems to happen to a lot ex-lads/chads who grow older and suddenly gain some kind of semi-conscience; they become utter ”yes, love” men. Not sure what drives it but I’ve seen it happen, especially with guys who were deemed very attractive (status or looks) but didn’t have much of a spine.
 
Here is Victoria Beckham wearing absolutely grueling louboutin platform heels
Damn the more I know. That's impressive.
Anyways I think Meghan is way funnier beyond the surrogacy stuff
Yeah but it's so outrageous I couldn't stop being an autistic detective over it. The Meghan Markle lolcow watcher community could have a thread of their own with their silly conspiracy theories. Best one I've seen is people saying that the kids dont exist at all and that they are borrowed.
Meghan is having the best hair she ever had while in the BRF due to anagen phase prolongation during pregnancy.
I wouldn't comment anything about her hair since she's been relaxing it for 30 years and wears wigs/extensions all the time.

Anyway fine you are right. As funny as the pregnancy faking allegations are, it's still pretty nonsense. I'll still believe it in my heart. 4chan told me that women over 25 have no eggs so she couldn't possibly have mothered a child at 38.
I think he was on a couple substances throughout the ghostwriting of the book.
I also think Harry may be suffering from something that seems to happen to a lot ex-lads/chads who grow older and suddenly gain some kind of semi-conscience; they become utter ”yes, love” men. Not sure what drives it but I’ve seen it happen
I think these two things are related. I've seen many douchebags that went to Peru to do some DMT and suddenly develop empathy for the first time at age 30. They're still idiots but it's basically the iDubbz pipeline of edgy douchebag to handlebar moustache weilder

1. Harry writing in his stupid book that Meghan was released from the hospital just 2 hours after an epidural. Bullshit. 2. Burying the miscarried fetus under a tree. Bullshit. If you’ve ever had a miscarriage, you know. 3. Not taking the opportunity to pose for a phalanx of photographers outside the hospital. Please, this is Meghan’s dream.
Hahahaha this is fucking hilarious, I think I might actually listen to the book. This is such a weird fucking thing to lie about, is Meghan trying to flex over Kate that her pregnancy was so much easier than hers? This would also explain her not posing for the photo, she didn't want to look worse than Kate.

The miscarriage burial, eh, I believe that. Depends how many months it had and even then, laws don't apply to rich people. If I was Meghan Markle's doctor and she asked me for her miscarriage back so she can bury it I'd give her anything to make her shut up and leave me alone.

Thread tax: Netflix trying to make Meghan seem relatable and down to earth and her ruining everything with her nacissism:




If anyone watched the show, is there anything interesting in it? I was thinking of watching it and creating a delulu compilation but from the clips I've seen it's just Meghan being boring and pretending to have hobbies. (ex being a beekeper but being afraid of bees)
 
As a final note, can you just imagine the scandal if it came out that somebody relatively high in LOS was a surrogate after the fact? I'm sure eventually they may add provisions for surrogacy in case of a couple struggling with fertility, but it would be insane for the BRF to not know or try to conceal that Archie was a surrogate
More that controversial. Because of the requirements around an heir being "an heir to the body" and "of the blood Royal", it'd be a massive issue with succession.

Under British law, the mother is defined as the person who gives birth to a child. The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 2008 tweaked things that the person whose eggs it was can apply with a parental order after the baby is born, in order to be recognised as the mother, but in many (legal) ways this is like an adoption order. Laws around Royal succession rule against bastards, and prohibit bastards inheriting the Throne even if they're legitimised. So basically since at the point of birth the "mother" of Harry's kids weren't married to him, those children can never be heirs to the Throne.

This has never been tested, although comes up sometimes in discussions of like "what if Prince George ends up gay". I imagine if it ever happened, common sense would prevail, or ultimately Parliament would modify the laws like they did with primogeniture. I also can't see any situation where they'd never have discussed it with Royal advisors who would have told them all this... but if Meghan actually did use a surrogate and keep it secret from the Royal family, it would have been incredibly stupid even for her - and for that reason I don't think she did, unless she had some underlying fertility issues. But she looks like she was pregnant, I really don't buy into that conspiracy theory.

I also believe that Meghan manipulated Harry’s paranoia to deepen his codependency on her
Oh 100%. She absolutely drew a parallel between herself getting criticised in the tabloids and Diana getting hounded by the paps leading to her death. I'm pretty sure he's openly drawn the comparison himself. There is no doubt in my mind that she weaponises his dead mother that he (understandably) puts on a pedestal to get her way - it's how she got him to leave the Royal family.
Saw people on Twitter give her shit for her Le Creuset kitchenware saying it made her "not relatable"... come the fuck on. She's literally married to a prince, no she's not relatable. Her husband hit the wall 20 years ago, let her have her luxury stoneware.
Le Creuset is expensive but not unaffordable. I have Le Creuset cookware. It's ludicrous if you go down the route of buying all their little knick knacks like gravy boats and pepper mills to have a matching set, but since you can't trust Pyrex anymore it makes sense to splash out on things you're cooking with, just like with knives. It's an accessible brand, they sell it in John Lewis, it's not like she's pushing Staub.
If anyone watched the show, is there anything interesting in it
I posted some additional clips from the first episode in the Royal Family thread. Honestly I couldn't make it past her little pasta cooking moment with the makeup artist. I've usually got a strong stomach for cringe but I just couldn't handle it.
 
New @aseverofficialpost.

It is interesting that Meghan still wears ex-husband Trevor’s Cartier bracelet, especially since replicas are so common now that most other fashionable rich women stopped wearing them, they’re too ubiquitous.

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