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Should be a wild four years.

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Or, to put it more simply, imagine all this political hoopla over New Jersey, but with sand. Because that’s how big Israel is. Barely bigger than the state of New Jersey.
What if we get Iran and Pakistan to invade Israel but we fill Israel with nuke, s so the second that the enter Israel we detonate all the nukes, getting rid of Israel, Iran and the entire middle east in one move.
 
So what I see so far is some incompetence on the SS’s part. But nothing that would definitively lead me to believe there was any kind of conspiracy.

Luigi Mangione knew about Brian Thomson’s hotel schedule and yet no one is claiming any conspiracy there.

Gonna need a bit more than that to sway me. Sorry, just not gonna throw my chips in on what is known so far. Crook was some disturbed individual who wanted to kill Trump, for reasons we’ll probably never know.
people forget that security standards drop over time and pulling security is a perishable skill. the last time a president was shot at was reagan 43 years ago. before reagan was kennedy just 18 years before. we've had white breaches throughout obama and the colombian prostitute shit.

its incompetence pure and simple. lone wolves exist.
 
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Theory: Harry is gay (I believe he is), and he wishes he wasn’t. Moreover, he’s such a flamer that he knows he can’t really convince people otherwise- least of all now, after he put himself out there the way he did during the Biden administration/2024 election.

So maybe this is self-hating gay Harry’s way of trying to create plausible deniability and get people to think he’s straight- having him publicly seen (in writing, no less) as hitting on girls. It has to be intentional, because who the fuck puts their full name as their Snapchat handle? Especially if you have a public-facing, scrutinized position? Only reason that comes to mind there is he’s actually hitting on them and wants them to google his name out of some need to flex his esteemed position as a political influencer, which he’s SO proud of.
Paging @Gehenna Because iirc there ARE people in political positions that exceptional
 
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/circumstantial_evidence

My point is that it’s reasonable to believe that a conspiracy was involved, not that you need to accept there was one. That means when someone says something like ‘they tried to kill Trump’, an intellectually honest person would give them the benefit of the doubt that multiple people could have been involved in Trump’s assassination attempts. To argue that there was in fact no conspiracy as a matter of fact is an argument in bad faith. Someone who argues in bad faith is being an idiot, thus the trash can I gave you.
Not saying there wasn’t. Just saying there is this so far no evidence to support that claim.
 
Not saying there wasn’t. Just saying there is this so far no evidence to support that claim.
Yes, there is. It is, as you just said, a claim. You have been given evidence to support why people entertain said claim. You are acting as though people are arguing in-fact and can prove it, which they are not.

On the other hand, your supporting arguments against this claim have so far been "nuh uh".
 
A great story out of the DC rag of repute, The Hill: "Court finds Greenpeace liable in case over Dakota Access Pipeline" (archive).
A court in North Dakota has found Greenpeace liable for hundreds of millions of dollars over actions to combat the Dakota Access Pipeline.

The environmental organization will be liable for about $660 million per the verdict readout in court, Greenpeace USA interim Executive Director Sushma Raman said in a statement shared through a spokesperson.

That amount could put Greenpeace at risk of bankruptcy. The group vowed to fight the verdict.

“This is the end of a chapter, but not the end of our fight,” Raman said. “Energy Transfer knows we don’t have $660 million. They want our silence, not our money.”

Energy Transfer, the company behind the pipeline that had accused Greenpeace of defamation and trespass, among other activities, celebrated the decision.

“While we are pleased that Greenpeace has been held accountable for their actions against us, this win is really for the people of Mandan and throughout North Dakota who had to live through the daily harassment and disruptions caused by the protesters who were funded and trained by Greenpeace,” the company said.

“It is also a win for all law-abiding Americans who understand the difference between the right to free speech and breaking the law. That the disrupters have been held responsible is a win for all of us,” the company’s statement continued.

Greenpeace has argued that it only played a small role in the protests, which drew massive crowds that were opposed to the project.

The group has argued that the case was a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation suit and an attempt to silence critics.

“This is a freedom of speech issue. This is a First Amendment case,” Greenpeace spokesperson Madison Carter said in an interview ahead of the verdict.

She expressed concern that a verdict against Greenpeace would “have a chilling effect for any organization that is interested in advocacy.”
Greenpace is a bunch of LARPers at worst and eco-terrorists at best.
 
Why does this make politicians "inherently more electable"?
Because Americans tend to support Israel, they will vote for the politician that supports Israel.

Especially to the point where virtually every politician of note has an AIPAC handler.
Massie was being disengenious when he said that. The "AIPAC handler" is a volunteer who lives inside the district of the politician and talks to the politician about AIPACs concerns.

To contrast, the Iranian governments lobby in the US is the National Iranian American Council. They are also not registered with FARA but recently put out an announcement telling any Iranians who want to visit the US to private their social media so that immigrantion enforcement cannot use it to bar anti American people from entering
 
What if we get Iran and Pakistan to invade Israel but we fill Israel with nuke, s so the second that the enter Israel we detonate all the nukes, getting rid of Israel, Iran and the entire middle east in one move.
Isn't that just Operation Samson? Israel is already primed and ready to light the middle east up in nuclear hellfire.
 
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Yes, there is. It is, as you just said, a claim. You have been given evidence to support why people entertain said claim. You are acting as though people are arguing in-fact and can prove it, which they are not.

On the other hand, your supporting arguments against this claim have so far been "nuh uh".
Go find the evidence or at least something more solid that would support what you’re suggesting. Idiot secret service members not securing a roof or whatever might raise a brow. But if that is something to go on, then why hasn’t Trump assigned someone to investigate it and bring those responsible for this collusion to commit murder to Justice.

Knowing Trump he probably has but the FBI is probably going 🤷‍♂️
 
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