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This is why politics is so shit right now. Both sides will hit below the belt while claiming the moral high ground.
Unironically the fault of the Obama era. Mitt Romney said Obama was "a good guy with misguided ideas on how to make America a better place." In return, Obama called Mitt Romney a racist, sexist bigot trying to enslave Americans by making the United States into a Mormon theocracy.

The genie is out of the bottle, my guy. I hope you like hyper partisan politics because we've entered the era of "the Emperor's hippodrome racer won, we now have a mandate to burn down the opposition's shit and crucify them in the streets."
 
Can you honestly think of a more secure place then the Oval Office? Probably the most heavily guarded room in the entire world. Only the most carefully vetted people are even allowed to be in the antechamber forget the office itself and no one is left alone in the room except the PotUS. No stupid Leftist would ever get the chance to damage it nor would the USSS ever live it down if it did happen.

The only other option is to shove it in a sooper seekret vault somewhere but then no one would ever see it and despite the US Constitution (the paper thing not the ship) being in the Smithsonian it's still doing OK, even after many Lefty fags (mostly the Just Stop Oil retards) have tried their best to destroy/deface it because the Left hates everything the Constitution stands for and the person who trashes it will become the next MLK/Living Saint or at least that what those morons think will happen. In reality they'd get lynch probably, I can't imagine a more universally detestable act then tearing up the Constitution.

And if the WhiteHouse gets attacked/damaged to such a degree that the Declaration itself is damaged well.. shit be serious then and the US will have much much larger worries I bet.

I do wonder if it has ever been moved for it's safety? Like during WW2 or maybe the Cuban Missile crisis? Inquiring minds would like to know.
There are copies of it in the Smithsonian. You can go see one on display there, along with Betsy Ross's flag. I think there are 12 existing copies iirc. It would be a shame to lose an original, but there are more originals in the archives that are well protected. The Betsy Ross flag is one-of-a-kind because she made it out of clothing scraps like a quilt.
 
Unironically the fault of the Obama era. Mitt Romney said Obama was "a good guy with misguided ideas on how to make America a better place." In return, Obama called Mitt Romney a racist, sexist bigot trying to enslave Americans by making the United States into a Mormon theocracy.

The genie is out of the bottle, my guy. I hope you like hyper partisan politics because we've entered the era of "the Emperor's hippodrome racer won, we now have a mandate to burn down the opposition's shit and crucify them in the streets."
This just means you have two sides doing the Johnny Cage nut-punch while pretending that they're saints. It'd be funny if it wasn't real life.
 
I contest this! New Jersey fucking sucks ass when you're driving along the parts that are closest to New York City (i.e. Newark, Hoboken, Jersey City, Elizabeth, Paterson, etc). The further away you are from New York City, the more New Jersey honestly deserves its title as the Garden State.

had the privilege a few years ago of driving through Northern New Jersey when visiting a friend pre-COVID. The transition once you leave the NYC metro area into genuine cliffsides lined with forests along the I-80 is absolutely breathtaking.
It feels like all the sane new Yorkers of the last 10-15 years got pushed upstate or to jersey now. Because it seems like people from NYC are terminal in tds where it seems like your new jersey people are a bit more honest.
But I really want to check out new jersey As a state by train.
 
City Council bashes Trump administration for detaining man who helped lead protests at Columbia University
Chicago Sun-Times (archive.ph)
By Fran Spielman
2025-03-19 22:43:46GMT
City Council members unloaded on President Donald Trump’s administration Wednesday for detaining and seeking to deport Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil, who helped lead student protests at Columbia University, his graduate school alma mater.

The Council’s Committee on Health and Human Relations took no vote on the resolution championed by progressive firebrand Byron Sigcho-Lopez (25th). That’s because the resolution had been sent to the Rules Committee to slow it down.

Ald. Ray Lopez (15th), the man behind that stalling tactic, was a lonely voice against the resolution. He accused his colleagues of “cherry-picking when they start their sympathy and when they start their anger and their rage.”

That anger and rage, he noted, always starts after Oct. 7, 2023, when Hamas attacked Israel, killing 1,200 people and taking 250 hostages, some of whom remain in captivity. “Did we forget that part?” Lopez asked.

Lopez said there is a “huge difference between supporting Palestinians and supporting terrorists.” He believes Khalil crossed that line. “When you have someone who proudly supports that day and the actions taken, it’s hard to have sympathy for that individual.”

Lopez said his colleagues want to “use this as a moment to bash Donald Trump,” and argued freedom of speech “doesn’t apply when it puts people’s lives in danger. It becomes hate speech when it endangers communities.”

“This is not an American doing this. … Visas and even green cards — that is not a right. It is a privilege extended by this country,” Lopez said.

Ald. Maria Hadden (49th) called the resolution condemning Khalil’s arrest and demanding his release a “no-brainer for me.”

Hadden said it’s important to speak out against “an executive branch and a president and his enablers and co-conspirators who will eventually be held criminally accountable for the things they are doing that are violations of our Constitution.”

“We are all at risk of being a victim of the same kind of extrajudicial, completely illegal actions that the federal government is taking,” Hadden said. “It’s not happening just to Mr. Khalil. It’s happening to people every day. I feel like every day this week, I’ve read a news article about someone being scooped up. Someone being stopped at the border.”

Committee Chair Rossana Rodriguez Sanchez (33th) fired back at Lopez — who left the room after speaking — for suggesting her committee has no business entertaining the Khalil resolution.

“We are talking about lack of due process. We are talking about facing fascism. We are talking about an authoritarian government that is choosing to disappear people just because they are dissidents. Just because they are saying something that the government doesn’t like,” Rodriguez Sanchez said.

“This is scary and everybody should be alarmed,” she said. “I do not understand how anyone can say that we are wasting our time or that there are more important things to talk about.”

Last year, Sigcho-Lopez survived an attempt to remove him as Housing Committee chair for appearing at a City Hall rally after an American flag was burned to protest U.S. support for Israel.

He, too, lashed out at Lopez for venting — and then disappearing.

“Walking out of this room after saying such inflammatory remarks is not only irresponsible, but fails our constituents on the leadership of the moment to speak against these atrocities,” Sigcho-Lopez said. “We have a responsibility to protect due process. There’s nothing more American than freedom of speech, the First Amendment right. I challenge anybody to tell us otherwise.”

An Algerian citizen of Palestinian descent, Khalil is a legal resident of the United States who is married to an American citizen.

He helped lead pro-Palestinian protests at Columbia. He was arrested and detained by federal immigration agents in New York on March 8 after his lawyer said his green card had been revoked by the Trump administration.
 
Imagine reading about political polarization when you can experience it for yourself.
I'm more referencing his earlier days in the Star Wars thread before he learned to hide that he was cribbing from wookiepedia when discussing "back in the day" and accidentally dropping shit from the prequels
but yeah he probably does that for politics too
it's always weird when he decides to drop in here, sorta like when Dear Feeder opines
 
For what purpose would the mossad even have killed JFK for? I know he threatened to have the CIA dismantled but I don’t know what he had to do with Israeli politics.
JFK was tangled up in jewish politics (every president is). Jews survived as "a people without a land" by being merchants and influence peddlers. Jews used these skills in acquiring a homeland (Zionism). Not all jews want Zionism. The formation of modern Israel starts roughly around the 1920s. After WW2 the U.S. was a superpower that had absorbed a number of jewish immigrants. Bankers, Media (Newspapers, Hollywood), yadda yadda yadda.

JFK had ties with the Jewish Mob and Meyer Lansky (that's probably how JFK won Illinois). JFK's father made his fortune selling alcohol during The Prohibition. JFK's brother RFK worked closely with Joseph McCarthy. The Kennedy's were getting in everyone's business.

JFK told the Prime Minister of Israel David Ben-Gurion in June of 1963 (4 months before JFK assassination) that the U.S. insisted on inspecting Israel's nuclear program, and Israel can't have nuclear weapons. Ben-Gurion abruptly resigned. The new PM had many excuses for delays.

JFK and RFK told the American Zionist Council and its representative Isaiah L. Kenen to register as foreign agents. The AZC never complied and dissolved in 1966. Isaiah L. Kenen also never registered, and instead chose in 1963 to incorporate the "unincorporated" group American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs (AZCPA) as American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).*[Name change in 1959, incorporation in 1963]

JFK's Vice President was the psychopath Lyndon B Johnson (LBJ) from Texas. After JFK was assassinated (in Texas) in 1963, Johnson told an Israeli diplomat, "You have lost a very great friend, but you have found a better one."

According to the Jerusalem Post (archive):

A friend in deed​

New evidence reveals incredible aid Lyndon Johnson lent the Jews.

By LENNY BEN-DAVID
SEPTEMBER 9, 2008 20:44
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A few weeks ago, the Associated Press reported that newly released tapes from US president Lyndon Johnson's White House office showed LBJ's "personal and often emotional connection to Israel." The news agency pointed out that during the Johnson presidency (1963-1969), "the United States became Israel's chief diplomatic ally and primary arms supplier." But the news report does little to reveal the full historical extent of Johnson's actions on behalf of the Jewish people and the State of Israel. Most students of the Arab-Israeli conflict can identify Johnson as the president during the 1967 war. But few know about LBJ's actions to rescue hundreds of endangered Jews during the Holocaust - actions that could have thrown him out of Congress and into jail. Indeed, the title of "Righteous Gentile" is certainly appropriate in the case of the Texan, whose centennial year is being commemorated this year. Appropriately enough, the annual Jerusalem Conference announced this week that it will honor Johnson in February 2009. Historians have revealed that Johnson, while serving as a young congressman in 1938 and 1939, arranged for visas to be supplied to Jews in Warsaw, and oversaw the apparently illegal immigration of hundreds of Jews through the port of Galveston, Texas. A key resource for uncovering LBJ's pro-Jewish activity is the unpublished 1989 doctoral thesis by University of Texas student Louis Gomolak, "Prologue: LBJ's Foreign Affairs Background, 1908-1948." Johnson's activities were confirmed by other historians in interviews with his wife, family members and political associates. Research into Johnson's personal history indicates that he inherited his concern for the Jewish people from his family. His aunt Jessie Johnson Hatcher, a major influence on LBJ, was a member of the Zionist Organization of America. According to Gomolak, Aunt Jessie had nurtured LBJ's commitment to befriending Jews for 50 years. As a young boy, Lyndon watched his politically active grandfather "Big Sam" and father "Little Sam" seek clemency for Leo Frank, the Jewish victim of a blood libel in Atlanta. Frank was lynched by a mob in 1915, and the Ku Klux Klan in Texas threatened to kill the Johnsons. The Johnsons later told friends that Lyndon's family hid in their cellar while his father and uncles stood guard with shotguns on their porch in case of KKK attacks. Johnson's speechwriter later stated, "Johnson often cited Leo Frank's lynching as the source of his opposition to both anti-Semitism and isolationism." Already in 1934 - four years before Chamberlain's Munich sellout to Hitler - Johnson was keenly alert to the dangers of Nazism and presented a book of essays, Nazism: An Assault on Civilization, to the 21-year-old woman he was courting, Claudia Taylor - later known as "Lady Bird" Johnson. It was an incredible engagement present. FIVE DAYS after taking office in 1937, LBJ broke with the "Dixiecrats" and supported an immigration bill that would naturalize illegal aliens, mostly Jews from Lithuania and Poland. In 1938, Johnson was told of a young Austrian Jewish musician who was about to be deported from the United States. With an element of subterfuge, LBJ sent him to the US Consulate in Havana to obtain a residency permit. Erich Leinsdorf, the world famous musician and conductor, credited LBJ for saving his live. That same year, LBJ warned a Jewish friend, Jim Novy, that European Jews faced annihilation. "Get as many Jewish people as possible out [of Germany and Poland]," were Johnson's instructions. Somehow, Johnson provided him with a pile of signed immigration papers that were used to get 42 Jews out of Warsaw. But that wasn't enough. According to historian James M. Smallwood, Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle "hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port. Enough money could buy false passports and fake visas in Cuba, Mexico and other Latin American countries.... Johnson smuggled boatloads and planeloads of Jews into Texas. He hid them in the Texas National Youth Administration... Johnson saved at least four or five hundred Jews, possibly more." During World War II Johnson joined Novy at a small Austin gathering to sell $65,000 in war bonds. According to Gomolak, Novy and Johnson then raised a very "substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine." One source cited by the historian reports that "Novy and Johnson had been secretly shipping heavy crates labeled 'Texas Grapefruit' - but containing arms - to Jewish underground 'freedom fighters' in Palestine." ON JUNE 4, 1945, Johnson visited Dachau. According to Smallwood, Lady Bird later recalled that when her husband returned home, "he was still shaken, stunned, terrorized and bursting with an overpowering revulsion and incredulous horror at what he had seen." A decade later while serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration's attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign. "The indefatigable Johnson had never ceased pressure on the administration," wrote I.L. "Si" Kenen, the head of AIPAC at the time. As Senate majority leader, Johnson consistently blocked the anti-Israel initiatives of his fellow Democrat, William Fulbright, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Among Johnson's closest advisers during this period were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen (who 30 years earlier was the liaison between Supreme Court justice Louis Brandeis and Chaim Weizmann) and Abe Fortas, the legendary Washington "insider." Johnson's concern for the Jewish people continued through his presidency. Soon after taking office in the aftermath of John F. Kennedy's assassination in 1963, Johnson told an Israeli diplomat, "You have lost a very great friend, but you have found a better one." Just one month after succeeding Kennedy, LBJ attended the December 1963 dedication of the Agudas Achim Synagogue in Austin. Novy opened the ceremony by saying to Johnson, "We can't thank him enough for all those Jews he got out of Germany during the days of Hitler." Lady Bird would later describe the day, according to Gomolak: "Person after person plucked at my sleeve and said, 'I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for him. He helped me get out.'" Lady Bird elaborated, "Jews had been woven into the warp and woof of all [Lyndon's] years." THE PRELUDE to the 1967 war was a terrifying period for Israel, with the US State Department led by the historically unfriendly Dean Rusk urging an evenhanded policy despite Arab threats and acts of aggression. Johnson held no such illusions. After the war he placed the blame firmly on Egypt: "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other, it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision [by Egypt] that the Strait of Tiran would be closed [to Israeli ships and Israeli-bound cargo]." Kennedy was the first president to approve the sale of defensive US weapons to Israel, specifically Hawk anti-aircraft missiles. But Johnson approved tanks and fighter jets, all vital after the 1967 war when France imposed a freeze on sales to Israel. Yehuda Avner recently described on these pages prime minister Levi Eshkol's successful appeal for these weapons on a visit to the LBJ ranch. Israel won the 1967 war, and Johnson worked to make sure it also won the peace. "I sure as hell want to be careful and not run out on little Israel," Johnson said in a March 1968 conversation with his ambassador to the United Nations, Arthur Goldberg, according to White House tapes recently released. Soon after the 1967 war, Soviet premier Aleksei Kosygin asked Johnson at the Glassboro Summit why the US supported Israel when there were 80 million Arabs and only three million Israelis. "Because it is right," responded the straight-shooting Texan. The crafting of UN Resolution 242 in November 1967 was done under Johnson's scrutiny. The call for "secure and recognized boundaries" was critical. The American and British drafters of the resolution opposed Israel returning all the territories captured in the war. In September 1968, Johnson explained, "We are not the ones to say where other nations should draw lines between them that will assure each the greatest security. It is clear, however, that a return to the situation of 4 June 1967 will not bring peace. There must be secure and there must be recognized borders. Some such lines must be agreed to by the neighbors involved." Goldberg later noted, "Resolution 242 in no way refers to Jerusalem, and this omission was deliberate." This historic diplomacy was conducted under Johnson's stewardship, as Goldberg related in oral history to the Johnson Library. "I must say for Johnson," Goldberg stated. "He gave me great personal support." Robert David Johnson, a professor of history at Brooklyn College, recently wrote in The New York Sun, "Johnson's policies stemmed more from personal concerns - his friendship with leading Zionists, his belief that America had a moral obligation to bolster Israeli security and his conception of Israel as a frontier land much like his home state of Texas. His personal concerns led him to intervene when he felt that the State or Defense departments had insufficiently appreciated Israel's diplomatic or military needs." President Johnson firmly pointed American policy in a pro-Israel direction. In a historical context, the American emergency airlift to Israel in 1973, the constant diplomatic support, the economic and military assistance and the strategic bonds between the two countries can all be credited to the seeds planted by LBJ. The writer served as deputy chief of mission of the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Today, an international consultant, he blogs at www.lennybendavid.com.
Summary:
• LBJ's family helped Leo Frank [jewish rapist; begat the ADL]
• LBJ as a Congressman illegally smuggled 100s of jews into Texas (via Cuba, etc).
• During WWII illegally shipped crates of weapons to jews in Palestine (labeled Texas Grapefruit).
• In the Senate, blocked Eisenhower's sanctions on Israel.
• As Senate majority leader, blocked anti-Israel initiatives of his own party's William Fulbright, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
• In 1967, Johnson supplied Israel with tanks and fighter jets. France and Kennedy had refused.
• LBJ supported Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War [the USS Liberty incident happened during this].
• After the 1967 war Johnson supported Israel keeping land taken in the war.

There are unsubstantiated claims LBJ was jewish. Here is a picture of 4th Prime Minister of Israel Golda Meir next to LBJ.
Golda Meir and Lyndon B Johnson.jpeg

Would Israel have survived the 1967 war without the help of LBJ? Would Israel continue to exist in the Middle East without access to the U.S. arms industry? Would Israel exist without access to nuclear weapons?

Maybe Zionists viewed it as a "life or death" struggle.

Bonus fact: James Jesus Angleton, served as the CIA’s liason to Israel's Mossad and Shin Bet.
 
"Wow, you guys like domestic terror"

The Daily Show's audience applauds the domestic terror incidents against Tesla

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don't worry, if we act with decorum a LITTLE more they'll stop trying to murder us at the institutional level with clot shots and denials of treatment, and firebombings
just a bit more decorum
two more weeks of decorum to flatten the curve
 
"Wow, you guys like domestic terror"

The Daily Show's audience applauds the domestic terror incidents against Tesla
Does this even qualify legally as "terrorism" in the first place? Isn't it just destruction of property? Like when people were boycotting and vandalizing Starbucks because they supported Israel or whatever shit, its just about the same thing (but the vandalism is a lot more severe) and I don't recall many people referring to it as "domestic terrorism"

Even the eco-nutjobs who throw paint on classic art or superglue their hands to the road aren't referred to as terrorists from what I have seen.

Most definitions of it specifically include "violence against civilians". The cars are inanimate objects, so it can't technically be "domestic terrorism" unless people start getting killed from it.

I mean the argument can be made that they are doing it to instigate political change but I don't think Elon is even a government employee?
 
Does this even qualify legally as "terrorism" in the first place? Isn't it just destruction of property? Like when people were boycotting and vandalizing Starbucks because they supported Israel or whatever shit, its just about the same thing (but the vandalism is a lot more severe) and I don't recall many people referring to it as "domestic terrorism"

Most definitions of it specifically include "violence against civilians". The cars are inanimate objects, so it can't technically be "domestic terrorism" unless people start getting killed from it.

I mean the argument can be made that they are doing it to instigate political change but I don't think Elon is even a government employee?
Yes because they are using political violence trying to enact political change and behavior. People don't have to be hurt only the chance they could and guess what fire bombing places where people work and drive by is fucking dangerous dipshit.
 
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Does this even qualify legally as "terrorism" in the first place?
Trump's new meme is to redefine everything he doesn't like as terrorism. Similarly calling the boycott of Tesla "illegal."

It's retarded. There are already crimes to charge these people with. If you want destruction of property or vandalism to have harsher sentences then legislate that. Torching a car should not qualify as terrorism because the person that made it is friends with the president.

As an aside, for the first time ever I'm considering actually buying a Tesla. Used prices are down 21% because of all the angry trannies and faggots dumping theirs, and the federal $4000 used EV grant is still available.
 
Yes because the are using political violence trying to enact political change and behavior. People don't have to be hurt only the chance they could and guess what fire bombing places where people work and drive by is fucking dangerous dipshit.
"political violence" means assassinations, kidnappings and shit and sometimes also includes the damage of private property.

There's no violence happening. The cars are inanimate objects and belong to a company.
 
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