Business We're selling a house next to a 'Gilbert Goon.' Do we have to disclose it?

Question: We live next door to the home of one of the “Gilbert Goons,” a group of teenage boys who terrorized the Gilbert community until a 16-year-old boy was killed. Sometimes, cars even slow down and point at this house. Fortunately, our children are grown, and we had been planning on downsizing in the next few years. We have decided, however, to sell our home now. Our realtor says we don’t have to disclose anything about our next-door neighbor to a buyer. Is she right?

Answer: The legal principle is that the seller and the realtor generally have to disclose to the buyer any material and adverse fact (i.e., a fact that a reasonable buyer would want to know). The corollary to this legal principle is that if it is not a material and adverse fact, why not disclose it to the buyer?

In any event, other factors, such as time, can or cannot require disclosure. If your buyers are “empty nesters,” like you, disclosure may not be required even now. If the buyers are a family, especially with teenage boys or girls, disclosure is probably required. In five or ten years, however, disclosure to any buyer will probably not be required.

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source: https://www.azcentral.com/story/mon...-gilbert-goon-real-estate-column/82498347007/
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
Watch the Andy Griffith episode where Barnie tries to be a real estate agent and then come back to me with the moral of the story.
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Okay, I happen to have an extensive archive of media which includes the entire Andy Griffith show, so I did.

First of all let me thank you. Had you not made this comment there's no telling how long it would have been until I actually watched any of the show from my collection and I might never have realized how abysmal the copy I had archived was. This prompted me to hunt down a better copy of the show so I am in the process of replacing a 42GB file with a 56GB file that has a far better picture. Well worth the 14GB difference.

Second, what a lovely episode of classic television, I liked how the whole message was foreshadowed with the bike sale bit. It sounds simple but these are the kind of fundamentals that good TV was built on.

As for the moral of the story, I'd say there are several.

The first is that you should strive to be honest, not just in business dealings but in everything you do, if everyone were more honest the world would be a better place.

The second moral is that you shouldn't put the cart before the horse, which is what Barney was doing with his real estate efforts. He was so wrapped up in how much commission he was going to make off his multifaceted deal that he fumbled the ball and gave up. Had he stayed focused and calm he probably could have salvaged at least part of that deal and made some money. Of course that wouldn't make for as good an episode of television but such is life.

The third moral would be remembering what counts most in reality is location, location, location! No house is perfect, they all have little problems and work that needs done. Even new built houses, especially these days, aren't immune from this fact of life. When you're buying or selling a house as important as it is to keep realistic expectations and make yourself aware of the issues, don't lose sight of what made you consider that house in the first place. When Andy talked about the Williams's house he didn't talk about it being without flaws, he focused on its aesthetic and its location. You can fix flaws, old plumbing, a leaky roof, a flooding basement, a cracked furnace, all of these are things that can be repaired or replaced relatively easily compared to aesthetic and location.
 
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smartypants302 said:
Looks like the “Gilbert Goons" are loosely affiliated 15-19 shaggy headed surburban wiggers and maybe one black kid who just went around jumping elderly and children caught off guard. They took things to far and one kid ended up in the hospital and died. They blame drugs for it "Especially 2023, I was clouded mentally by drugs, alcohol and hallucinogens, so bad to the point where I was diagnosed with drug-induced psychosis,"
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It's called the knock out game and eventually white people are gonna get tired of playing it.
 
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Pokemon Conquistador said:
I thought everyone in Arizona had guns. But being a city, Phoenix is probably full of "Vote Blue No Matter Whoers" who think guns are icky.
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Gilbert is full of upper middle class chickenshits who fled problems they caused in California. The population has nearly doubled in the last 15 years and all of those kids come from fairly wealthy families.
When it comes to the locals even libs routinely carry.
 
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The title and the first few sentences made me go WTF because I thought this was about the cartoon. #casualfriday #italiano
 
smartypants302 said:
Looks like the “Gilbert Goons" are loosely affiliated 15-19 shaggy headed surburban wiggers and maybe one black kid who just went around jumping elderly and children caught off guard. They took things to far and one kid ended up in the hospital and died.
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So an entire gang of Ethan Ralphs but with a milder case of pussyitis?
 
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