Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity? - Most likely the answer will be = NO

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Will any western society ever stop shaming men for still retaining their virginity?

Gentlemen, it's good to see you here bright and early as always.

Now, let's get down to business shall we, as I'm sure you are all aware as of the mid 20th century it has become a common occurrence to shame males for being virgins.

This causes men to lie about their experiences in life so that they aren't looked down on by their peers and socially ostracized.

The average virginity rate in males has risen to an all time high and so you have large numbers of men that feel like they have a dark secret to hide.

The solution would be to have a return to traditions (usually coming from faith) whereby virginity is held as sacred and should be held until one has a soulmate.

What information do you have to impart on this situation?


We should not follow Dionysus to the forest clearing

 

[Tablet County]

Yes I am well aware the essentials are expensive, bread, milk, fruit, vegetables, meat, they are all insane, and yes fast food is amazingly expensive, and restaurants even worse.

It's not okay that everything is so expensive that you can't afford to live a working class life working full time.

I am not a NEET I work a full time job, I have for half my life, which is why I'm so sick and tired of slaving away for a government that hates me, and to be able to afford nothing for all my efforts.

Somehow I don't believe you, but I'll bite anyway. What do you do for a living? Do you work in a legitimate trade, are you a cubicle jockey or do you just stack shelves?
My money's on cubicle jockey; it would explain literally everything.

 

[Spiny Rumples]

have you noticed most of the people here are retarded? I'm sure it wasn't always this way but it's as if all of the good people were pushed away and now the brainless husks have taken over so they can hoot and holler at fat women

Have you ever held hands with a fat woman? They are soft.

Also much like the difference between wherever you were before and Q&A, there are cultural bubbles all over the place with different pros and cons. Some locations are more down to chat, even with the opposite sex. Bars, dance classes, ... uh maybe there's a community hiking group? Honestly it took me years to find places I could afford where people don't just pretend everyone else doesn't exist. But it's possible.

Also if you do a desk job then aerobics might help you sweat the stress out. Cheap, clean-burning stress relief, though sweaty.

 

[Not a bee]

BAAAAAWWWWWWWWW

 

[The Lawgiver]

Nigga I'm too broke to have sex thoughts and i've never been horny enough to jack off and even I find virgins funny. You GOTTA find shit funny to some degree even if that one movie about the dude that was a 40 year old virgin had an ass message people constantly point out. The reason people found chris' "virgin with rage"shit funny is because he cared too much about getting gf and having sex over literally anything else important. THAT is the primary factor to keep in mind for why people find virginity funny. There's people like chris that are far less interesting who managed to have sex, people talking about having sex and shit all the time with certain terms labels and positions are usually unattractive spergs fucking compensating for shit. Talking personality type unattractive, not physically unnatractive. However, polycules are full of the physically unattractive/personality unattractive wombo combo. No, I don't care if you're a "sub" or a "dommy" or some other stupid fucking term. You're fucking making me cringe in secondhand embarrasement!

I am not a NEET I work a full time job, I have for half my life, which is why I'm so sick and tired of slaving away for a government that hates me, and to be able to afford nothing for all my efforts.

Well at least the establishment doesn't hate you enough to not let you get hired for shit/have payment processors fucked with like a good number of people in current year have to put up with. Puts you ahead of a good number of people, if only a little bit!

So, will it ever stop being funny?
Short answer?
NO.
Will it stop being "shamed?"
NO, IT WILL NOT. Regardless of whether those doing the shaming are doing it forhumor or compensation, it will not stop.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Somehow I don't believe you, but I'll bite anyway. What do you do for a living? Do you work in a legitimate trade, are you a cubicle jockey or do you just stack shelves?
My money's on cubicle jockey; it would explain literally everything.

You don't believe me? Didn't you say "thread when" today? That implies you have come across me before.

Well I'll bite your bait then if that is what you want. I have worked full time in IT for 15 years. It's the low level shit so I do a lot of walking and carrying of things. It's a bullshit trade, I'd rather be a cleaner. No, I'd rather be a NEET.

Have you ever held hands with a fat woman? They are soft.

Also much like the difference between wherever you were before and Q&A, there are cultural bubbles all over the place with different pros and cons. Some locations are more down to chat, even with the opposite sex. Bars, dance classes, ... uh maybe there's a community hiking group? Honestly it took me years to find places I could afford where people don't just pretend everyone else doesn't exist. But it's possible.

Also if you do a desk job then aerobics might help you sweat the stress out. Cheap, clean-burning stress relief, though sweaty.

I've never touched a woman, I thought they were all soft.

QnA is a shitpost area though.

I don't think you can go anywhere to make connections in real life anymore can you? Do your places still give you company?

Bars are just a place to go with people you know, you will never have the chance of meeting a woman there.

BAAAAAWWWWWWWWW

buzz off

Nigga I'm too broke to have sex thoughts and i've never been horny enough to jack off and even I find virgins funny. You GOTTA find shit funny to some degree even if that one movie about the dude that was a 40 year old virgin had an ass message people constantly point out. The reason people found chris' "virgin with rage"shit funny is because he cared too much about getting gf and having sex over literally anything else important. THAT is the primary factor to keep in mind for why people find virginity funny. There's people like chris that are far less interesting who managed to have sex, people talking about having sex and shit all the time with certain terms labels and positions are usually unattractive spergs fucking compensating for shit. Talking personality type unattractive, not physically unnatractive. However, polycules are full of the physically unattractive/personality unattractive wombo combo. No, I don't care if you're a "sub" or a "dommy" or some other stupid fucking term. You're fucking making me cringe in secondhand embarrasement!

Well at least the establishment doesn't hate you enough to not let you get hired for shit/have payment processors fucked with like a good number of people in current year have to put up with. Puts you ahead of a good number of people, if only a little bit!

So, will it ever stop being funny?
Short answer?
NO.
Will it stop being "shamed?"
NO, IT WILL NOT. Regardless of whether those doing the shaming are doing it forhumor or compensation, it will not stop.

Bro the 40 year old virgin was made by Jews that is why it has bad messaging.

Could it be that virgins are starved of physical contact and that is why they are so very desperate for sex? A fat man may look at a cake as just another day, a starved beggar will see a cake as a divine gift from god. Women see sex as something they get whenever they please, we will likely never get any.

polycules are absolutely disgusting for sure.

I agree the shaming is here to stay as sure as the sun rises and sets on a cycle.

I'm a nobody so that is how I've escaped the notice of Jews thus far.

Sex really is a disgusting evil thing when you really put your mind to considering it...

 

[The Lawgiver]

Bro the 40 year old virgin was made by Jews that is why it has bad messaging.

No, It simply is just bad. Jewish people being involved is just a universal constant of hollywood shit. Relationships built on superficial shit cannot and will not last, there needs to be something deeper.

Could it be that virgins are starved of physical contact and that is why they are so very desperate for sex? A fat man may look at a cake as just another day, a starved beggar will see a cake as a divine gift from god. Women see sex as something they get whenever they please, we will likely never get any.

You're confusing virgins with incels. Not the same thing and sexless incel virgin women are also very much a thing. People that frame using prostitution as a get out of being a virgin thing for incel types do not understand the issue is not the sex itself but the relationship aspect as well.

I'm a nobody so that is how I've escaped the notice of Jews thus far.

he he ha he he ha he ha.

 

[DankSmoker]

half of us don't even get the chance to even talk to a woman by the age of 30

Of course you're not going to get laid if you dont even talk to them, dumbass.

 

[Tablet County]

You don't believe me? Didn't you say "thread when" today? That implies you have come across me before.

I said "thread when" because you're acting like a lolcow. You're on a website whose raison d'etre is making fun of retards on the internet; it's not deception, it's called bullying.

Well I'll bite your bait then if that is what you want. I have worked full time in IT for 15 years. It's the low level shit so I do a lot of walking and carrying of things. It's a bullshit trade, I'd rather be a cleaner. No, I'd rather be a NEET.

Yeah that explains everything. Working in IT is the reason you feel like you're just a number and have no control over your life. Go into construction or landscaping or something. Learn HVAC, go back to school to learn welding. If you feel like those trades would benefit the machine too much then become an IRL janny; they make good money and all they do is mop up floors.

Could it be that virgins are starved of physical contact and that is why they are so very desperate for sex? A fat man may look at a cake as just another day, a starved beggar will see a cake as a divine gift from god.

If you think that way you need to reframe your entire life. If the telos of your life is simply the reptile-brained satisfaction of getting laid you're going to wind up endlesslly disappointed and you should just buy a hooker. If you actually want an intimate relationship with a woman you have to put effort in. Not just the physical effort of going to the gym either.
And I know what you're going to say; "but women only want to fuck chad!" No they don't, at least not the ones who're worth it. Only the most superficial and unserious women will go for a guy merely because of his imposing nature. They're the female equivalent of those guys who simp for E-girls on twitch. These are slags, thots, low-value women, and they aren't worth getting torn up over.
I'm guessing you must not have a family that cares about you, otherwise you'd be able to lean on them when you're feeling low like this. If that's the case I really do sympathize with you, that's rough. I'm an unironic atheist so I don't usually recommend this, but if you want to feel like there are people who are looking out for you and have your best interests at heart you should go to church.

Women see sex as something they get whenever they please, we will likely never get any.

I'm gonna blow your mind: the vast majority of women don't get laid whenever they want. That is a lie put forth by fatherless grifters to make the average male more susceptible to being conned into buying overpriced Alpha Male snake oil. The kind of bitches who do give out their pussy to just anyone are the slags I mentioned above and they're not examples to be looked up to.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

Desperation stinks. It activates a fear response in any woman experienced in human behavior. It's not charming or cute, it's a behavioral warning sign like a dog raising hackles or a horse flattening its ears.

Any woman who is attracted to it is naive or likely to be trouble herself.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Nobody loves white men though that is the issue

nigga what are you on about? once you leave the bbc spamming on /pol/ you'll notice that the overwhelming majority of white women are looking to date white men. there are white women who go for black guys but not only are they the minority, they also tend to be the dregs that you wouldn't want to date any ways. then, outside of white women, the trope is true, plenty of asian women love white guys. being white is not the reason you arnt getting a GF. and dont hit me with those made up 4chan statistics and graphs, please tell me you arnt retarded enough to believe that stuff, right?

that is unless you are talking about society as a whole, then yeah, sure, i can see that. but the context of this thread is sex and relationships so it is safe to assume you meant women in particular.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

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Of course you're not going to get laid if you dont even talk to them, dumbass.

There is no way to actually talk to a woman, they are a brick wall.

Desperation stinks. It activates a fear response in any woman experienced in human behavior. It's not charming or cute, it's a behavioral warning sign like a dog raising hackles or a horse flattening its ears.

Any woman who is attracted to it is naive or likely to be trouble herself.

So you have to act like you are not really that interested if you want to get them interested in you like some kind of weird game of backgammon. Maybe women should try that with Chad.

nigga what are you on about? once you leave the bbc spamming on /pol/ you'll notice that the overwhelming majority of white women are looking to date white men. there are white women who go for black guys but not only are they the minority, they also tend to be the dregs that you wouldn't want to date any ways. then, outside of white women, the trope is true, plenty of asian women love white guys. being white is not the reason you arnt getting a GF. and dont hit me with those made up 4chan statistics and graphs, please tell me you arnt retarded enough to believe that stuff, right?

that is unless you are talking about society as a whole, then yeah, sure, i can see that. but the context of this thread is sex and relationships so it is safe to assume you meant women in particular.

Yes the statistics show things are bleak and they are real. Every day things get worse for us white men. We were thrown out of the dating market long ago and now all women are desperate to get Chad. 1 in 10 women will put a ring on an alpha males finger so it's a lottery for them.

@Tablet County

Yeah IT is soulless painful work that nobody should get into. Computers are awful. At this point I think I'm too old and fucked to go down another career path, I'm reaching the end of my ability to work. In another life I would of rather been one of those trade jobs though, even mowing lawns would be better.

I have the biological need to seek a mate, I don't just want sex I want to experience an actual relationship.

Women are just chasing Chad though. Look at the types of men that women date, you will notice the same genetics with them all. Women can see genetics at a glance, so they are good at weeding out the beta males.

It's not even that we men can say we are walking away, women already kicked us out of the dating market in the 2010s, and now they all fight over the top 10% of men.

Of course the old days of them using us for money when they are older is over too because they now earn more than us and we are all struggling to survive in these final days of the west.

 

[The Last Stand]

Women are just chasing Chad though. Look at the types of men that women date, you will notice the same genetics with them all. Women can see genetics at a glance, so they are good at weeding out the beta males.

What's your opinion on vintage Hollywood actresses?

 

[Ventrue]

I would add that men should stop beating themselves up over nonsense because who else is going to build them back? its themselves, why create a crater when only the foundation has crumbled. No man needs to make things worse by having to fill in that hole where their dignity was on top of building their self-esteem.

I would also advise men don't seek advice from some faggot that's trying to sell you something. Men are better off learning to be a man by watching John Wayne movies than Andrew Tate. Its also a good idea to have some guy friends to keep you on the right path.

 

[GeekUSA]

The solution would be to have a return to traditions (usually coming from faith) whereby virginity is held as sacred and should be held until one has a soulmate.

The funniest thing about these types of whiney "return to tradition" faggots is that if they actually got a crumb of pussy they'd be the ones campaigning against traditionalism in favor of casual, no consequence sex. Please, keep on posting about how if everyone started going to church again it will make you get pussy, I'm sure you actually believe the shit your spewing.

 

[Tablet County]

Women are just chasing Chad though. Look at the types of men that women date, you will notice the same genetics with them all. Women can see genetics at a glance, so they are good at weeding out the beta males.

It's not even that we men can say we are walking away, women already kicked us out of the dating market in the 2010s, and now they all fight over the top 10% of men.

I don't know what else to tell you but that you're just wrong, sorry to say. It's more than likely that you're seeing your own life swirling the drain and in your desperation to explain it you've adopted this insane cope that it isn't just your life that sucks, but everyone's. Based on your posts and how impressionable you seem to be you're very clearly a bell-curved individual. You lost the genetic lottery not in looks but in intelligence, because if you had any wit about you then you'd be able to fix your life.
I can only reiterate that you should go to church or seek out some kind of spirituality, because you clearly don't have the je ne sais quoi to find life beautiful on its own. Also the women who become tradwives go to church, so there's that.
Lower your standards and settle for a homely but certifiably white bitch with a solid personality and have kids with her, thereby doing your part for the white race while also experiencing the joys of intimacy.
If you would rather make excuses to continue feeling like a victim instead of seeking out practical solutions to your misery, then I can't help you. Suffer briefly but intensely to stave off long-term suffering, or continue wallowing in your own self-pity so I can keep making fun of you until the day you either expire or choose to abridge the agony McNutt-style.

 

[Mister Fister]

You don't believe me? Didn't you say "thread when" today? That implies you have come across me before.

Well I'll bite your bait then if that is what you want. I have worked full time in IT for 15 years. It's the low level shit so I do a lot of walking and carrying of things. It's a bullshit trade, I'd rather be a cleaner. No, I'd rather be a NEET.

So, you're a mid 30s low level computer janitor that never accuried any higher level certs nor degrees and you're past the window to get on the track for the high pay and badass IT jobs. Buddy, that's not the Jews fault.

 

[The Last Stand]

So, you're a mid 30s low level computer janitor that never accuried any higher level certs nor degrees and you're past the window to get on the track for the high pay and badass IT jobs. Buddy, that's not the Jews fault.

What do you mean "pass the track?" Is that related to his lack of degrees for higher paying jobs or his age?

 

[Mister Fister]

What do you mean "pass the track?" Is that related to his lack of degrees for higher paying jobs or his age?

Both actually, you’re expected to move into senior roles as you get older and those require degrees or certs and experience. It’s harder to start in those tracks over someone younger.

 

[The Last Stand]

Both actually, you’re expected to move into senior roles as you get older and those require degrees or certs and experience. It’s harder to start in those tracks over someone younger.

Understood. I work in IT too, have been for a couple years. I'm younger than him. Now you had ME concerned about this career path.

 

[Mister Fister]

Understood. I work in IT too, have been for a couple years. I'm younger than him. Now you had ME concerned about this career path.

What can you do that no else can? What will it take to get to have those talents?