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SzarvasAlfonz said:
The modern father-daughter relationship is incestous at the very least emotionally, and much more often concretely (in the physical, sexual sense) than people would think. Indeed, much more often than mother-son relationships, even in the world of widespread single motherhood. Many will dislike to read this, but these relationships are much more often instigated by the daughters, even in ages that are considered "young" by today's standards.
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The Ugly One said:
Why do these retarded rants always end with, "and that's why 14-year-old girls should get married"?
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I don't know why you're surprised. Lots of incels are men who spent their youth reading and collecting "redpill" infographics instead of learning to socialize and talking to girls. Then they get older, realize no one cares about how "redpilled" they are, and they think their only chance at losing their virginity is convincing a stupid person (a child) to think they're cool. What's even more pathetic is some of these fantasies don't even involve being cool or intteresting, they involve being given a child bride. They aren't even socially competent enough to manipulate people in their own fantasies.

The whole gender wars thing is such a Boomer mentality and I can't believe it's popular nowadays.
 
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Max Free said:
The "give 14-year olds away to marry" shtick stems from early medieval practices of early marriage, as woman were considered a cost to get rid of as fast as possible, and it's not surprising to see someone post about womens only worth being married away as early as possible in the Women Hate Thread.
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No it does not. We have marriage records from Medieval England and Italy. The majority of people married in their 20's. It was the rich and powerful men who wanted to marry children because they, like the rich and powerful of today, were power-hungry psychopaths who got off on abusing children. The historical record on this is clear and it's pro-pedophile propaganda that "feminism" or "Jews" are responsible for age of consent laws. What happened is parents got tired of predators preying upon their children.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
No it does not. We have marriage records from Medieval England and Italy. The majority of people married in their 20's. It was the rich and powerful men who wanted to marry children because they, like the rich and powerful of today, were power-hungry psychopaths who got off on abusing children. The historical record on this is clear and it's pro-pedophile propaganda that "feminism" or "Jews" are responsible for age of consent laws. What happened is parents got tired of predators preying upon their children.
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Kids absolutely where married away in that age span (12 to 14) in exchange for alliances, agreements, money and power. That's so well known, I don't know how lost you have to be to deny this. His point was, that the value of a women is to be traded away as soon as it was possible, in clear reference of this, because he is a women hater, posting in the woman hate thread.
 
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Max Free said:
Kids absolutely where married away in that age span (12 to 14) in exchange for alliances, agreements, money and power. That's so well known, I don't know how lost you have to be to deny this. His point was, that the value of a women is to be traded away as soon as it was possible, in clear reference of this, because he is a women hater, posting in the woman hate thread.
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I'm calling pedophilia what it is. You can research this on your own if you like. Girls from wealthy and noble families were married off at young ages like this, yes. That is 100% true. However, it was not common practice for the rest of European society, the vast majority of which was neither wealthy nor noble. We have the marriage records. Not one, not ten, but a shitload. I made that distinction clear in the post you quoted and you are aggressively misunderstanding it. I'm going to assume it's because you're an idiot who thinks Game of Thrones is a documentary.

I'm not stopping him from hating women, I'm only pointing out the historical truth. If that bugs you, then you can go fuck yourself.
 
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Max Free said:
You're calling pedophilia what you don't like.
At no point did I even challenge your historical records, because they never even mattered.
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Max Free said:
That's so well known, I don't know how lost you have to be to deny this.
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Plus, if it didn't matter, you wouldn't have brought it up. You're an idiot.

Adult men marrying 14 year olds is pedophilia. Do you disagree?
 
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@Johnny Bravo's point is that it wasn't the norm, even in the Middle Ages, to marry off girls "as soon after menarche as possible." What the royalty did was neither normal nor healthy (see also: Habsburg jaw).

The closest I've found to girls between 14 and 16 marrying with some regularity in the Western world (don't care about Arab pedos) is among, IIRC (and this is a dim recollection) slaves or perhaps certain classes of commoners in ancient Rome. You also find it somewhat on the American Prairie, where extreme scarcity ruled the day. But the incel spergs are never fantasizing about being a lowborn, rightless go-fer in a brutal, Bronze Age world. Nor do they fantasize about being a subsistence farmer living in a sod house. They clearly are fantasizing about being some sort of Victorian dandy who's just handed a 15-year-old at age 38 because he impressed her father with the income he's gotten from finally becoming a coach driver in the nice part of town or something equally retarded.
 
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The Ugly One said:
The closest I've found to girls between 14 and 16 marrying with some regularity in the Western world (don't care about Arab pedos) is among, IIRC (and this is a dim recollection) slaves or perhaps certain classes of commoners in ancient Rome.
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Well, then you weren't exactly very thorough. There are a lot of examples, of families in nobility married away early. Anne de Bretagne was 14 years old when she married with a Habsburg, King Richard the II. even had a 7 year old wife.

Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Answer the question: do you disagree that adult men marrying 14 year olds is pedophilia?
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Pedophilia for me is lusting after, having sex or wanting to have sex with pre-pubescent kids, no matter the circumstances. Regardless if you consider 14 still as "pre-pubsecent", I, of course, absolutely don't defend a forced marriage between a kid and an adult, forced marriage in general and especially am I not defending any sexual activity between adults and minors.
My point was: Regardless of how true it is, the trope of marrying a women/girl away as early as 14 is a well known trope that everyone heard once, but most probably in connection with medieval times, and it is therefore not surprising to be uttered by someone who is a women hater that writes its manifesto about the value of women.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
No it does not. We have marriage records from Medieval England and Italy. The majority of people married in their 20's. It was the rich and powerful men who wanted to marry children because they, like the rich and powerful of today, were power-hungry psychopaths who got off on abusing children. The historical record on this is clear and it's pro-pedophile propaganda that "feminism" or "Jews" are responsible for age of consent laws. What happened is parents got tired of predators preying upon their children.
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This early marriage was likely, two families agreeing on union. Like someone's son marrying someone's daughter when they come of age.
 
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