Assassin's Creed thread

[Mister Fister]

I was thinking about why out of all the historical fiction about Japan, why is Shadows is the one to draw controversy and it's exactly what you said. Last Samurai was popular there and that's just as accurate as Shadows, I'm pretty sure they liked Shogun too. Nioh also had Yasuke but no one minded because that game is a fantasy (so I'm told, I never played it myself). I remember when Unity came out, Ubisoft caught flack for portraying the Revolution as the secret bad guys but they waved it off saying "it's historical fiction, guys" and that was the end of that. They said no such thing here and it makes you wonder if there would have any blowback if they just said it's fiction.

Yasuke was Odas retainer in Nioh

 

[anti SJW]

 

[Snekposter]

It also makes for a better character in a video game, you know, where you start off at level 1?

Yasuke survives Oda's fall and picks up some shitty armour and a dull blade and has to survive as the only nigger in japan basically hiding in the woods and surviving off mushrooms and carrion

Yeah, that would have been an interesting concept to go with, him with nothing to his name and deciding to get revenge no matter the cost because Nobunaga had treated him better than everyone else had up to that point.

I still say they could have had a slam dunk with Nobunaga being a Templar thanks to his Jesuit connections and desire to bring order to Japan no matter what, and you being a Hattori or Ikko Ikki Assassin tasked with bringing down the nascent Templar presence. For those unaware, not even the Japanese themselves particularly like Oda Nobunaga, what with giving him the moniker of "Demon King" for his sheer excessive brutality, even by the standards of the time.

Now compare that with the pathetic pussy-footing we've seen with KCD2, which is just as "historically accurate" as Shadows.

"Do you have any idea how hard it is to speak Latin while sober?"

 

[regalterry]

I still say they could have had a slam dunk with Nobunaga being a Templar thanks to his Jesuit connections and desire to bring order to Japan no matter what

Shitlibs are retards at the best of times, but the way they consistently refuse to explore the order/freedom dynamic of the two factions is among the biggest fumbles of the franchise. They don't do so, naturally, because they are ideologically captivated and have pigeonholed Templars as the "bad guys", slapping the red cross on any historical figure they don't like.

Since they're mental midgets, they are incapable of taking things to their logical extreme and imaging what a society built on the idea of "nothing is true, everything is permitted" would look like.

Sure, you have Rogue, but that is basically just a reverse of the usual AssCreed story - the Assassins are now the dumb villains, and the Templars the reasonable good guys.

A more fun, and actually novel, take would have been to play as two protagonists - a Templar samurai out to avenge Nobunaga, and to ensure his dream of a unified Japan came to fruition, and an Assassin ninja attempting to sabotage the Templar plot, and then use that to explore the differing philosophies and ramifications of their beliefs.

Even the White Wolf cuck writers eventually conceded that turning every human into a walking magical nuke that can rape reality at will might not be the best idea, and that the Technocracy (the faction that wants to keep humans away from their magical potential) has a point.

not even the Japanese themselves particularly like Oda Nobunaga, what with giving him the moniker of "Demon King" for his sheer excessive brutality, even by the standards of the time

It's not so clear cut, though. Some writers depict him as a tyrannical butcher, a literal "Demon King" as you, while others take a more nuanced approach and present him as the first of the great unifiers of Japan, the one that set events in motion that would lead to the end of the Sengoku Jidai and the unification of Japan.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

I still say they could have had a slam dunk with Nobunaga being a Templar thanks to his Jesuit connections and desire to bring order to Japan no matter what

That's... actually super obvious and works perfectly, wtf why didn't they do that?

 

[regalterry]

wtf why didn't they do that?

For the same reason they thought making a nigger the protagonist of their Japanese game, meant to save the company from utter ruin, was a good idea.

The liberal is not a learning animal.

 

[Maude Snew]

Wasn't AC Mirage already advertised as a return to form?

If journos were actually smart, not the cowardly idiots they are, "return to form" at this point would be used as an insult, everything that was said to be "return to form" was complete shit and only the consoomiest of consoomers could defend it, or those being paid to do so. If I ever find myself in a position where I have to shit on a game I will for sure use it, like thus: Anno 1800 is pretty solid and fun but the DLC content was a return to form and should largely be avoided.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

For the same reason they thought making a nigger the protagonist of their Japanese game, meant to save the company from utter ruin, was a good idea.

The liberal is not a learning animal.

I mean we are at 2/3 on the list now. Never forget.

You guys ready for the WWII AC game where Hitler was actually a black woman and the Templars covered it up?

I joke of course, Tencent wouldn't allow black people in the game.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

It's not so clear cut, though. Some writers depict him as a tyrannical butcher, a literal "Demon King" as you, while others take a more nuanced approach and present him as the first of the great unifiers of Japan, the one that set events in motion that would lead to the end of the Sengoku Jidai and the unification of Japan.

Out of the three Great Unifiers, Nobunaga was the least dickish and committed the least atrocities out of the three (he obviously still did them tho), he was hated during that era because he dared to completely turn samurai customs and traditions on their head, the most notable reason why he was hated was because he promoted people on merit rather than tenure, with his biggest "crime" being the banishment of the Sakuma clan (who served the Oda for hundreds of years) out of his lands because they were mid in battle and administration, Sakuma Nobumori was also known to talk shit behind Nobunaga's back and his son was a fucking retard. That bad reputation carried on until today.

Out of the other two, Ieyasu was more war crimey and backstabby, while Hideyoshi was a supreme dick purely because he pulled the ladder down from under him. He started out as a peasant-soldier under Nobunaga's employ, rose the ranks until he became a general, became a samurai through marriage, then became kampaku, or imperial regent, since his wife's family descended from the ancient Fujiwara clan and this was the highest position he could be employed in. (additional spergery - only the clans who could prove descent from the ancient Minamoto clan could become shogun) Then he decreed a bunch of edicts, out of which the most notable being making the class system way more rigid, meaning that it would be impossible for a peasant to rise to samurai status. The other was the infamous "sword hunt" where all military weapons that were held by the peasants were confiscated, making it pretty much impossible for another peasant to do what he did.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Kamiya has finally reached "out of touch" old man statues. How the mighty have fallen.



Dude, your a cuck!

"EDIT" Oh yeah, that happened.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

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Dude, your a cuck!

"Dude they made the current Emperor's ancestor a cheating whore that instantly jumped in bed with the only black guy in Japan, doesn't that seem a little screwy to you?"

"Sh-shut up! Go away!"

Men like this are the reason Black US soldiers keep getting away with raping japanese girls off-base.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

It's not so clear cut, though. Some writers depict him as a tyrannical butcher, a literal "Demon King" as you, while others take a more nuanced approach and present him as the first of the great unifiers of Japan, the one that set events in motion that would lead to the end of the Sengoku Jidai and the unification of Japan.

Nobunaga gets a bad rep because he was willing to break a few rules and break a few eggs to get ahead in a war. It was either that or face total annihilation.

The others dont get as much hate because at that point, It was already normalized when you could argue they were just as bad or even worse.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Out of the three Great Unifiers, Nobunaga was the least dickish and committed the least atrocities out of the three

Maybe, but the other two also had cooler armor than him. Checkmate Odacucks.

 

[Secondary Secret]

Who the fuck writes this dialogue?! Do all quadruple A games have the exact same writing teams.
I swear i recognize this type of "romantic" dialogue from every other game/movie/tv show nowadays.

This is so fucking cringe-inducing i can not imagine anyone taking this shit seriously.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Who the fuck writes this dialogue?! Do all quadruple A games have the exact same writing teams.
I swear i recognize this type of "romantic" dialogue from every other game/movie/tv show nowadays.

This is so fucking cringe-inducing i can not imagine anyone taking this shit seriously.

The team is like 80% white liberal French Canadian women. What did you expect?

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Who the fuck writes this dialogue?! Do all quadruple A games have the exact same writing teams.
I swear i recognize this type of "romantic" dialogue from every other game/movie/tv show nowadays.

This is so fucking cringe-inducing i can not imagine anyone taking this shit seriously.

overwight French women that have not been in a "serious relationship" since high school.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

Maybe, but the other two also had cooler armor than him. Checkmate Odacucks.
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None of them can compare to the absolute drip of Naoe Kanetsugu. Imagine having the balls to put the word "love" on your helmet. What a king.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Kamiya has finally reached "out of touch" old man statues. How the mighty have fallen.



Dude, your a cuck!

Did we just find Japanese Vavra, aka "based" figure everyone used to like that turned out to be an actual cuck?

Who the fuck writes this dialogue?! Do all quadruple A games have the exact same writing teams.
I swear i recognize this type of "romantic" dialogue from every other game/movie/tv show nowadays.

This is so fucking cringe-inducing i can not imagine anyone taking this shit seriously.

We already went over this, a literal BBC fetishist with daddy's issues, ie a woman. This on top of likely having a good heap of ChatGPT generated content as well.

 

[moocow]

It's so weird watching the hollowed-out hype machine going through its motions trying to keep this thing on life support a little bit longer, all while every single component of the system (the journoscum writing bullshit fluff pieces "it's already setting records!", the "2 million players!" announcement on twitter, the /v/ threads declaring the "chuds lost," etc.) knows it's a literal death march.

I don't know whether to be heartened by the fact that it all seems so half-assed and phony this time (meaning even the people getting paid to fluff this thing know it's a flop and know they're fighting a losing battle), or depressed that they're still willing to just go through the motions anyway even knowing it's all for nothing.

Every bit of it is just so transparently false this time. I don't think even the people "rooting" for the game's success believe any of it. Everyone just seems to know it's astroturf and an inevitability that this thing's gonna drop off the map for good in a couple weeks and wind up a footnote in a bankruptcy filing or buyout announcement.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

In the light of the 2 million players, lets remember what ubisoft demanded before releasing the game.

Asscreed Shadows has peaked at 24,593, its less players than Dragon Age Veilguard which was a commercial failure on Steam.