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In Israel, civilian gun ownership is a privilege, not a right, requiring a permit from the Interior Ministry, with strict regulations and eligibility criteria, and a focus on self-defense and security needs.

Here's a more detailed breakdown of Israel's civilian gun ownership laws:

1. No Right to Bear Arms:
  • Unlike the United States, Israel does not have a constitutional right to bear arms.

  • Firearms are considered a privilege, and ownership requires a permit from the Ministry of Interior.

2. Eligibility Criteria:
  • Military Service:
    Individuals who have completed mandatory military service (IDF) are more readily eligible for a permit.

  • Age:
    Those who have completed IDF service can apply after their 20th birthday, while those who did not serve must wait until they are 27.

  • Residence and Occupation:
    Living or working in areas deemed dangerous, or in professions that encounter unsafe situations, increases eligibility.

  • Specific Need:
    Applicants must demonstrate a specific need to own a weapon, such as self-defense or security reasons.

  • Background Checks:
    Applicants undergo thorough background checks, including mental health assessments and criminal history checks.

  • Language Test:
    Applicants must pass a Hebrew language test.

  • Firearm Training:
    Applicants must complete a theoretical exam and compulsory training.

  • Secure Storage:
    Applicants must demonstrate provisions for a secure location to store weapons.

3. Permit Requirements:
  • Interior Ministry Permit: All guns require an Interior Ministry permit.
  • Police Approval: Permits require police approval.
  • Identification: Guns must have an identifying mark for tracing.
  • Renewal: Permits must be renewed annually or whenever residence, occupation, or national defense role changes.
  • Limited Ownership: Permit holders may own only one handgun.

4. Loosening of Restrictions (Post-October 7, 2023):
  • Following the Hamas attack, the Israeli government has moved to loosen the rules around gun ownership.
  • Fast-tracking: The permitting process has been fast-tracked.
  • Increased Applications: There has been a dramatic increase in applications for firearm permits.
  • Expanded Eligibility: Some regulations have been eased, expanding eligibility for permits.
  • Reduced Criteria: The criteria for obtaining firearms has been reduced.
  • In-person interviews are no longer required.
  • Reduced certification threshold.
  • Allowing volunteers in rescue organizations to obtain gun licenses. "
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Actually Israeli gun laws are rather strict. Its not some sort of free range paradise.

CraicRock28 said:
It’s really incredible how many similarities exist between BAPtards and the groypers. They really want to present this false dichotomy where you have to choose one or the other.
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I'd say in principle this is true for the DR sub factions in general-you are either a brownnosing team player or you are kicked to the curb. Flatter the "leaders" and don't deviate from whatever the line at the moment is or be quickly shown the virtual door. At some level I can understand why this is so-twitter sub factions are basically clubs/gangs and followers in and of themselves have no inherent value beyond allegiance and following the will of the leader-in the case of twitter, agreeing and amplifying(and if you do come up with your own stuff-its basically just stuff your leader can repost and retweet-in essence you are helping them develop their brand/ideology-call it offshoring).

If you are too individualistic or you aren't seeking a virtual club or gang to derive meaning from-you'll find the DR a very miserable, catty and bitchy place where no one ever achieves anything but everyone acts as if their twitter arguments are world revolutionary discourses on which the future of humanity turns.
 
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Spencer weighs in on the Sarah Stock/BAP feud (starts at 8:15 in this video clip). I don’t pay for Twitter so I can’t download a local copy.

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- Spencer likes Sarah, she’s an upgraded Lauren Southern who is more direct and to the point, she’s a pretty white girl without the neocon baggage (8:15)
- Several minutes of sperging over America actually not being a European Christian culture and more of a propositional nation (unlike Canada, which was an explicit outpost of Europe)
- BAP and his crew are attacking her because she criticized Trump from the right, said he wants to bring in H-1B Indians, they can sense that she is Fuentes-aligned (16:04)
- What the BAPtards want is for them to be “the pornography of the mainstream” (17:31)
- BAP is so much worse than Sarah Stock for mainstream politics because he talks about TND, Bronze Age rape gangs, and eugenics while she is merely saying America was founded by Europeans and that should be the dominant culture (17:49)
- What BAP is doing is ultimately to appeal to republicans who aren’t going to do anything that matters but will maintain America’s pro-Israel stance (19:01)
- The remainder of the clip is Spencer and friends rehashing
- how hypocritical these guys are for clutching their pearls over what Hamas did on Oct 7 despite it being the most Bronze Age thing in modern times​
- how they’ve reframed both Oct 7 and opposition to Trump as a resentful slave morality chimpout by third worldists​
- how Trump’s governing style utilizes a sort of performative cruelty, particularly with regards to his immigration rhetoric which ultimately substitutes for meaningful action (legal immigration stays the same, deportations go down, but look we made a big show of ICE rounding up Hispanics with questionable tattoos and did an ASMR deportation video on Twitter) in an attempt to appeal to the very real resentment against immigrants among Trump’s base​
- how Nietzsche was suspicious about people who were a little too obsessed with punishing the criminal and what that reveals about the type of people that view this performative cruelty from a pornographic point of view​

The beginning 8 minutes was Spencer going off on Matt Walsh for cowardly adopting white identitarian talking points this late in the game only when it’s become safe to do so, but that is less relevant to this thread.
 
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CraicRock28 said:
- Spencer likes Sarah, she’s an upgraded Lauren Southern who is more direct and to the point, she’s a pretty white girl without the neocon baggage (8:15)
- Several minutes of sperging over America actually not being a European Christian culture and more of a propositional nation (unlike Canada, which was an explicit outpost of Europe)
- BAP and his crew are attacking her because she criticized Trump from the right, said he wants to bring in H-1B Indians, they can sense that she is Fuentes-aligned (16:04)
- What the BAPtards want is for them to be “the pornography of the mainstream” (17:31)
- BAP is so much worse than Sarah Stock for mainstream politics because he talks about TND, Bronze Age rape gangs, and eugenics while she is merely saying America was founded by Europeans and that should be the dominant culture (17:49)
- What BAP is doing is ultimately to appeal to republicans who aren’t going to do anything that matters but will maintain America’s pro-Israel stance (19:01)
- The remainder of the clip is Spencer and friends rehashing
- how hypocritical these guys are for clutching their pearls over what Hamas did on Oct 7 despite it being the most Bronze Age thing in modern times- how they’ve reframed both Oct 7 and opposition to Trump as a resentful slave morality chimpout by third worldists- how Trump’s governing style utilizes a sort of performative cruelty, particularly with regards to his immigration rhetoric which ultimately substitutes for meaningful action (legal immigration stays the same, deportations go down, but look we made a big show of ICE rounding up Hispanics with questionable tattoos and did an ASMR deportation video on Twitter) in an attempt to appeal to the very real resentment against immigrants among Trump’s base- how Nietzsche was suspicious about people who were a little too obsessed with punishing the criminal and what that reveals about the type of people that view this performative cruelty from a pornographic point of view
The beginning 8 minutes was Spencer going off on Matt Walsh for cowardly adopting white identitarian talking points this late in the game only when it’s become safe to do so, but that is less relevant to this thread.
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genuinely odd how much i enjoy reading bullet points of Spencer more than the real thing. I'd assume he's reading this thread by what he said
 
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Walsh is moving with the direction of both the zeitgeist and the republican base. A decade ago even die hard conservatives would have been too uncomfortable to breathe in a discussion about whether America was founded by conquest or not-they'd hem and haw and say it wasn't really conquest or that the Native Americans benefited from it, or any other such thing.

That sort of liberal moral axiom cautious conservatism is long dead. As the country becomes more and more non White and racial grievance against Whites rises-it was inevitable this would occur. Walsh explicitly uses the word settler-the common term in decolonial "White people bad" discourse on the left.

Spencer is insinuating he is some sort of intellectual vanguard and the conservatives are trailing behind-I don't think this is true? I think the change in White American political consciousness is not "the Aryan vanguard is moving the most advanced of the White masses towards revolution while the petty reformist conservatives and paleolibertarians trail behind reaching where the former was when they had passed already"(the entire framework of Spencer's discourse reminded me so much of left wing vanguardist rhetoric-the idea of an intellectual elite moving forward with the masses, dragging the cautious reformists along).

A lot of DR figures have this notion that Con Inc is secretly reading them and cautious tipping into the water after the far right has already dived, as far as political consciousness goes.

I don't think this is as true as they claim. White Americans are being forced to develop a more aggressive and solid racial consciousness, Spencer and Co. aren't making the average Trump guy in Nebraska or Georgia begin to realize "wait I'm White, I'm hated by these people for that reason, I need to embrace my Whiteness"

As for BAP and pornography-BAP has actually encouraged his supporters to make pornography. Real pornography. TND isn't even a topic Spencer will touch though. BAP's supporters will actually say this and I do think they mean it. Ofc. like the rest of BAPism its an enthralling fantasy where you start of at A and BAp tells you what Z looks like, and if you ask how he plans on getting from A to Z-you get shouted down or blocked.
 
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The Hardest R said:
Fatt Forney fled the United States after the rape and has been hanging out in countries notorious for human trafficking.
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I have not read Forney's thread, but I recall he started off writing books about how to sleep with women in countries like the Philippians. Hanging around third world shitholes is what he has been doing for years.

I remember when her post was made because Jim Goad was sleeping with Sterzinger at the time so Goad was feuding with Forney.* And when Jim feuds, well he really goes all in. Facebook was a mess because everyone in this area (slightly before BAP's reign) had an opinion on the matter, and everyone who didn't was invited to. Forney, if I recall, was latching onto Fuentes at this point. I think this is the main reason why Goad stopped associating with Fuentes, though I am sure he states it is something less personal. Forney was running some fiction site, wasn't he?

Sterzinger seems like a nice woman from my limited interaction with her. You could tell she was a bit messed up (lapsed Catholic with a tendency to go from one extreme to the other) but ain't we all?

*Actually, I could be wrong but Goad might have been feuding with Forney before Goad met Sterzinger and used sleeping with her as a bit of own. Sounds very white trash, but he did write The Redneck Manifesto.

edit: Sterzinger also claimed to be raped by a black man.

 
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BAP's supporters will actually say this and I do think they mean it. Ofc. like the rest of BAPism its an enthralling fantasy where you start of at A and BAp tells you what Z looks like, and if you ask how he plans on getting from A to Z-you get shouted down or blocked.
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exactly, BAP's been talking about that porn shit for years and despite it being easier than ever for some weirdo with cash to make a manyvids or loyalfans and do raceplay shit like that, literally none of them have done it. Like the vast majority of porn the last 5 years is amateur stuff where some weirdo with a camera pays these pornstars or OF bitches and gives them a script to say and does pov sex or more kinky stuff and yet not a single one of these followers of his does it. Mainly because BAP is as aspirational as those PUA, no difference between BAP talking about making political porn and Dick Masterson saying he'll make a porno where he cucks Maddox. its all about making your fans high 5 and go "hell yeah, let me give you more money!"

Its all about the promises and not about actually doing anything, like someone else here said BAP is doing a right wing version of bernie, only instead of gullotines and communes its Hamas style attacks and club tropical excellent
 
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I'd say in principle this is true for the DR sub factions in general-you are either a brownnosing team player or you are kicked to the curb. Flatter the "leaders" and don't deviate from whatever the line at the moment is or be quickly shown the virtual door. At some level I can understand why this is so-twitter sub factions are basically clubs/gangs and followers in and of themselves have no inherent value beyond allegiance and following the will of the leader-in the case of twitter, agreeing and amplifying(and if you do come up with your own stuff-its basically just stuff your leader can repost and retweet-in essence you are helping them develop their brand/ideology-call it offshoring).
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This was the big lesson that should have been learned after Nigel Carlsbad's massive gayop in the BAP clique - the vast majority of chuds on twitter and other RW circles are just a bunch of gay marks, and you're one of them. If you're not posting on the timeline, getting clouted, and included in the maze of pro-semite racist GC's, then you're just a consoomer of the E-Right/Dissident Right culture industry. A Fox News network for disaffected zoomers and millenials.
 
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Why do all the "merit" posters like Crémieux and I/O fail basic statistics? They're walking counter-examples for the idea that there's a correlation between IQ and high test scores.

Crémieux has been posting about the NYU hack and showed a chart of the "ideal" "merit-based" racial makeup of their class:
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If you look at the chart, you'll notice that the percentages don't add up to anything close to 100%. That's because OVER A THIRD OF THE APPLICANTS did not identify as one of the major races:
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The chart is complete fiction; there's not enough information in the data to draw his conclusion.

Practically every post this group of posters make is full of blatant statistical errors yet none of their "smart" followers ever seem to notice them. The most pushback they ever seem to get is people telling them that SAT scores aren't the be-all and end-all of merit.
 
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The chart is complete fiction; there's not enough information in the data to draw his conclusion.

Practically every post this group of posters make is full of blatant statistical errors yet none of their "smart" followers ever seem to notice them. The most pushback they ever seem to get is people telling them that SAT scores aren't the be-all and end-all of merit.
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this is something i noticed awhile back with them, they genuinely don't give a shit. they proudly make up stats, like one fag said Dolph Lundren was paid $30 million dollars to star in Kindergarden cop 2, and they acted like you fell into some trap if you called them out on it.

Mind you these guys especially Martin, instant block you for trying that retarded joke on them. I remember another time they said some indie film Women Talking, had a budget of $500 million despite that obviously being a lie because as long as it sounds good and riles up the base it doesn't fucking matter. This lack of integrity along with just not bothering to follow the stats means its hard to not think they would feel perfectly fine going back on any of their views. Whats stopping BAP from going "illegal immigration is based" or "war with Iran is based" and his entire group agreeing with him and just going full Jeb bush conservative.

Like that one dude said, its entirely performative cruelty. "look we're winning so much, the gop is forcing the government to use the laws on the books, no more and no less. we deported 10k immigrants in an entire month! we're .04% of the way towards getting rid of all the illegals in the next 4 years"

if you notice Trump's breakneck pace of Februrary slowed to a massive crawl this month to the point where most of the political thread has mainly been infighting the last 2 weeks
 
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Regarding immigration, I do think trump runs into deeper structural realities. That being true mass deportation would completely shatter the economy and trigger mass resistance.

ICE officers have already faced resistance in Latino neighborhoods, and in many places something like half of the population of a school or workplace didn’t show up due to fear of ICE raids.

The problem is-the economy needs immigration. At least as it’s currently structured. If trump really pushed far enough he’d have large swathes of businesses against him, (including the Agriculture industry), and likely real mass unrest.

So all the administration can do is get whatever criminals they can, and sate the base’s sadism by posting ASMR deportation videos.

(lest anyone read this as me glazing trump, it’s not, Meloni has had similar issues in Italy-the fact is the modern economy needs constant streams of immigrants-both for low level jobs, and as consumers. True mass deportation of tens of millions of people that-buy stuff at the corner market and deliver DoorDash is just shooting the economy in the foot over and over again. It’s just not viable under current conditions).
 
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Ishtar said:
IIRC hasn't he criticized Jews on the grounds of their neuroticism and physical weakness? Also BAP has attacked Jews on Nietzschean grounds(the founders of slave morality, inherently cowardly and dishonest), etc... that's usually what anti semitism looks like in the BAP sphere.*

That and SCB's ethnonarcissism.

What BAP is, Jewish or not is an amoralist. You're never going to see him attacking communists because they killed people, but because they are biological refuse acting out their titanic resentment against the beautiful.

The inverse implication to this line of reasoning is the beautiful Aryan ubermenschen engaging in the same behavior is A-OK.

*Of course, the problem with this line of critique-Jews are narcissistic and lie about history, they are motivated by envy and their self-conception is fundamentally reactive and a form of copium, is that it doesn't register. It makes nice substack articles but no one is moved to commit pogroms over it.

No one is convinced to be an anti semite because you bring up Jewish authors inability to not make any historical event a re litigation of their parochial grievances. Call it esoteric antisemitism or what have you.

Whereas "peasant" anti semitism is emotionally salient and much more powerful than that.

I do think BAP has a deep sense of unease about his identity, both his implicit homosexuality and his jewishness-to identify with the Jews means identifying with spindly rabbies and screeching harridans, old ugly men talking nonsense and so on. But he isn't going to denounce Jewishness, Judaism yes, the Jews role in history-quite so, but he can't deny himself.
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Lol if you believe this. Bap is the same as fuentes, a gay guy who can't have morals or respect Christianity because that would require him to analyze his own behavior. They've both stumbled into forming cults of personality and at this point the only real thing to separate bap and Fuentes is their public opinions on mcdonald's and role played by the system
 
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You didn’t actually read a word I said.
 
Ishtar said:
IIRC hasn't he criticized Jews on the grounds of their neuroticism and physical weakness? Also BAP has attacked Jews on Nietzschean grounds(the founders of slave morality, inherently cowardly and dishonest), etc... that's usually what anti semitism looks like in the BAP sphere.*

That and SCB's ethnonarcissism.

What BAP is, Jewish or not is an amoralist. You're never going to see him attacking communists because they killed people, but because they are biological refuse acting out their titanic resentment against the beautiful.
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Since this is back in the thread I should make a few things clear:

Bap's bloviations should not be taken at face value because you're being sold a packaged product, never forget the October 7th chimpout, which is the lense by which "nihilistic barbarian vitalism" can be unpacked.

BAP is a zionist from a Straussian point of view, IE he thinks zionism will somehow normalize jews into a normal landed people (downstream of muscular judaism, etc). He believes this stuff really really hard but would never ever ever go to Israel and join the IDF (OFC Costin would wear an IDF shirt to the gym in college but plenty of tubby sheckle gremlins do that).

Second City Bureaucrat's concept of ethnonarcissism is a poison pill aimed at any form of racial consciousness, if you like your group too much you can get the label, ofc they use it on groids and heebs to build the cred but the minute they'll need it against wignats it'll come out. You always need to see the next step, not what's presented.

Costin is 100% a moralist he just couches his zionist moralism behind tactical irony and nihilism to confuse you because if he came out and explained in detail what he actually wanted in the world you'd rightly reject it. Karim's Oct 7th debunks BAM is a great thread not only because it completely outs him as a scolding moralist, but BAP's "wait till they get JDAMMed" response doesn't defend his alleged principles at all and Karim responds by basically quoting his thesis paper back at him (Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy). (Brief aside but there's nothing more bronze age than getting F16s from ur sugar daddy and bombing cities, this is def what Gilgamesh was up to back in the day, fr fr)

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His response being couched in BAP's own professed philosophy is what gets me every time I re-read this.

To the extent to which the Jews are feminine take is useful it was better explicated by Otto Weigninger's "Sex and Character" rather than some pedo ziocon retard on xitter. To the extent they are "ethnonarcissists" IE engaging in extreme in group preference, that's been better explicated upon by Kevin MacDonald (I would know I read his book) rather than some guy branding himself as a rentseeker gov worker in Chicago. There is nothing these people have that isn't re-hashing their betters or vibes/forced memes.
 
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SCB’s thesis as I understand it boils down “ethnic identities such as that of blacks and Jews is built from a position of humiliation and weakness, a sense of profound inferiority or subjugation. Like Jews claiming they invented all of western philosophy or black ladies inventing astronomy”.

It’s a defense mechanism that conceals a deeper sense of “I’m ultimately a worthless slave that is shown up by my betters, so I create this bubble pseudo reality to not have to grapple with my identity’s actual worth”.

While yes, that can be turned around on wignats(and has been already) I don’t think his analysis is wrong per se. A lot of POC discourse and insane bullshit claims like Europe was half black in the medieval ages make a lot more sense when understood this way.

As far as Zionism and Costin is concerned-I don’t disagree. He’s Jewish and he’s going to defend Israel just on blood loyalty, regardless of what he thinks about neurotic Ashkies. (Whether he actually believes this IDK).

You seem to be under the impression I take everything he says at face value, or I’m some sort of BAP Stan I don’t and I’m not. I’m pretty sure I commented earlier about him running cover for Epstein. I’ve also said his entire vision is political pornography/an unviable fantasy. (Or rather the vision sold on Twitter).
 
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