UK Schools to give boys anti-misogyny lessons to stop toxic masculinity in wake of Netflix hit Adolescence

Schools are set to give students anti-misogyny lessons in the wake of hit Netflix TV show Adolescence about a teen boy who murders a female classmate.

The classes form part of the government's new relationships, health and sex education (RHSE) guidance, which will be introduced before the end of the academic year.

It comes after Sir Keir Starmer revealed at Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday that he was watching the mini-series with his two teenagers - and that he backs the show creators' calls for it to be shown in parliament and schools.

The four-episode programme follows the Miller family, whose lives are torn apart when their 13-year-old son Jamie is arrested for stabbing a female classmate to death after being influenced by online misogyny.

The drama, released ten days ago, was the most-watched show on Netflix worldwide last weekend, gripping audiences with its sobering portrayal of how social media and misogynistic influencers can impact young boys.

Though Labour's classroom guidance is still being developed, it is understood to include content to 'support healthy relationships', to 'enable schools to tackle harmful behaviour and ensure that misogyny is stamped out and not allowed to proliferate', an insider source said, the Times reported.

From as early as primary school, children will be encouraged to 'express and understand boundaries, handle disappointment and pay attention to the needs and preferences of oneself and others', with content modified for older children to reflect the 'real-life complexities of romantic and sexual relationships', the source added.

The development comes as a win for the Netflix show's co-writers, Jack Thorne and actor Stephen Graham - who stars as the teen boy's father - who have said they wanted Adolescence to be a programme that 'causes discussion and makes change'.

The new guidance will encourage students to 'think about what healthy sexual relationships involve' - including 'consent', along with 'kindness, attention and care'.

As children progress to secondary school, classroom content will start to include the 'communication and ethics' needed for healthy romantic and sexual relationships.

Topics covered will range from dynamics of power and vulnerability, to tools to manage 'difficult emotions', like disappointment and anger, that can affect relationships.

The effects of misogynistic online content and pornography on both young people's sexual behaviour and their views of relationship norms will also be discussed.

Education secretary Bridget Phillipson has faced pressure to overturn RSHE guidance drafted by the previous Conservative government - which included bans on sex education for children under nine and discussions of gender identity.

Adolescence was praised last week by the parents of a survivor of the Southport stabbings for drawing attention to the 'terrifying' impacts of online misogynistic content on young men.

Axel Rudakubana, then 17, stabbed their daughter - known as Child A - more than 30 times during his brutal attack on a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in July last year. He killed three young girls - and was jailed for life in January.

The parents, in a statement read out by their MP during a debate on knife crime in the House of Commons on Thursday, said influencers like Andrew Tate are having a 'terrifying' impact on teen boys, who needed to be protected from this content.

Rudakubana cleared most of his online search history before the murders - so it is not known whether he viewed any content associated with Tate.

Triple murderer Kyle Clifford - who shot his ex-girlfriend Louise Hunt and her sister Hannah with a crossbow and stabbed their mother Carol - is known to have viewed Tate's videos before making his ferocious attacks.

Teachers were told in government guidance released last year to look out for signs of misogyny and 'incel culture' in students aged 14 and over, which could lead to sexual abuse, violence and suicide.

The education secretary warned teachers to watch out for teen boys who had been indoctrinated by 'manosphere' influencers into 'hating women'.

Last week, former England football manager Sir Gareth Southgate blasted 'callous, manipulative and toxic influencers' for leading young men towards misogyny.

At the BBC's annual Richard Dimbleby lecture, he said the 'sole drive' of these pernicious online creators is their 'own gain': 'They willingly trick young men into believing that success is measured by money or dominance, that strength means never showing emotion, and that the world, including women, is against them.'

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[teriyakiburns]

Also it's so fucking gay but there are no good flights between bwi and Manchester.

There used to be direct flights from manchester to some parts of the north east US, but they stopped them at some point. London is where most Americans want to arrive, apparently, so all the flights go to the hell on earth that is Heathrow. It's the most convenient for connections to desirable European capitals and Berlin.

 

[mindlessobserver]

London is where most Americans want to arrive

Its cheaper. Other more regional UK Airports inevitably cost more so the airline could justify the flight. And would also be done on one of the smaller aircraft necessitating each plane charging more per seat in addition. Heathrow handling the bulk of the trans-atlantic airline traffic was simply a result of economic incentives, and the airlines desiring more streamlined routes.

Dropping regional UK Airports, also allowed for the American carriers to pick up routes to other European cities like Madrid, Frankfurt and Paris.

 

[browserbowser]

Reminder for any unaware that they portrayed the actual murderer, Alex Muganwa Rudakubana, an import from machete-happy Rwanda, as "Cardiff boy Jamie Miller".

With the lesson that British boys need to be endlessly lectured and made to feel guilty, for the Third World violence they never asked for.

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This is the shit that foments violent racial balkanization.

And if it doesn't happen on behalf of whitey it's about to happen against them. In the U.K. at least.

 

[Maxwell Carter]

Combat misogyny by hating men! Always works!

 

[NoIdeaWhatImDoing]

The strength of the programme is actually in how little it explains about Jamie's motivations. It's not even clear Jamie himself consumes this specific content beyond being generally aware of it. It is never clarified at all how Jamie gets from getting a knockback from Katie at some point to at some later point deciding to arm himself and murder her. The overwhelming majority of discussion about this series is coming from people who haven't watched it.

there are interviewes with the creators , their point of view is clear.

 

[Positron]

To save women, you need to hate modern women academics more.

FTFY

 

[Barry McKockner]

we need to reverse what andrew tate did to this generation of males

Nah, we need more of it. It's hilarious watching the cultural brainwashing of young men fail due to such an absolute brain dead group of figures. Maybe if things get worse, they'll realize that a culture and society that revolves solely around it's effects on women is a society killing one.

 

[Paper Machete]

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

 

[Professor G. Raff]

Obfuscate a real problem that causes truly horrific human misery you have no intent of solving and actually plan to continuously make worse and then blaming it on the people who are the victims of the problem and then run a propaganda campaign on the victim's children they will be forced to pay for through taxes based on your fictionalized movie version of events. You get numb to it because you see it so much in the last, but this is like the truest definition of evil... I'd even call it demonic. I don't believe demons actually exist, but they don't need to when these ghouls live.

 

[NoIdeaWhatImDoing]

The main writer wants an Australian type of ban for teens. i suspected it but here it's the confirmation:

Spoiler: Article

Adolescence writer calls for radical action not role models

One of the most talked-about TV shows of recent years, Netflix's hard-hitting drama Adolescence, has been the hot topic of discussion this week, from the House of Commons to US talk shows to the gates of the scriptwriter's son's school.
Those discussions have been sparked by the fictional story of a 13-year-old boy who is accused of stabbing a girl, and the factors that could have turned him into a killer.
"I've had lots of responses from people I haven't heard from for years, telling me about conversations they're now having with their children," writer Jack Thorne says. "That's really gratifying.
"My son's headteacher stopped me at the school gates to say, 'I'd like to talk to you about this, and I'd like to think about what our school can do and what other schools can do'," Thorne adds.
"The conversations seem to be starting in all sorts of different places."
Thorne is now calling for the government to take "radical action" to help tackle the issues the programme raises.
Chief among them are social media and the influence of incel (involuntary celibate) ideas, which encourage men to blame women for their lack of relationships and opportunities.
Adolescence co-writer Jack Thorne also penned another recent Netflix hit, Toxic Town
But the drama, which Thorne created with actor Stephen Graham, is not just pointing the finger at incel culture, the writer tells the BBC.
"I really hope this is a drama that suggests that Jamie is like this because of a whole number of complicated factors."
His parents, school and friends are all shown as playing a part in various ways.
But Jamie, played by Owen Cooper, is bullied on social media to make him feel ugly, and is exposed to incel messaging and skewed views on sexual violence.
"He is this vulnerable kid, and then he hears this stuff which makes sense to him about why he's isolated, why he's alone, why he doesn't belong, and he ingests it. He doesn't have the filters to understand what's appropriate," Thorne says.
"At this age, with all these different pressures on him and with the peculiarities of his society around him, he starts to believe that the only way to reset this balance is through violence."

The writer went down similar online wormholes himself on sites like 4Chan and Reddit in order to see the world through Jamie's eyes.
He found that these messages were not simply coming from the obvious places.
"It was far from just Andrew Tate. It was not those big guns of the manosphere," he says.
"It was the smaller blogs and vlogs and the little bits like people talking about a video game, but then explaining through that video game why women hate you.
"That was the stuff that I found most disturbing."


These issues aren't new, but the show has come as others are also discussing the dangerous messages aimed at boys and young men.
On Wednesday, former England football manager Sir Gareth Southgate delivered a speech warning against "callous, manipulative and toxic influencers".
"They are as far away as you could possibly get from the role models our young men need in their lives," he said.
Thorne says Sir Gareth is "amazing" - but he believes the solution is about more than having better role models.
"We've been having that conversation since I was a kid," the writer says. "This has got to be a point where we do something a bit more radical than that. It's not about role models.
"Role models obviously can have a huge impact on people. But truthfully, we've got to change the culture that they're consuming and the means by which our technology is facilitating this culture.
"It was a really interesting speech, but I was hoping he was going to propose more radical things than he did."
So what could more radical solutions be?

This week, Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer told Parliament he's been watching the "very good" drama with his teenage children.
Violence carried out by young men who are influenced by what they see online is "abhorrent and we have to tackle it", and is "also a matter of culture", he told the Commons.
Thorne hopes the PM will get the message that "there's a crisis happening in our schools, and we need to think about how to stop boys from harming girls, and each other".
"That's going to take a mass of different things to facilitate in schools and in homes, and that requires government help," he says.

He urges Sir Keir to "rather urgently" consider a smartphone ban in schools and a "digital age of consent", similar to Australia, which has passed a law banning children under 16 from using social media.
The writer has also suggested extending that to all smartphone use and gaming.
"I think we should be doing what Australia is doing, and separating our children from this pernicious disease of thought that is infecting them," he says.

A ban would be a tough sell to teenagers, though.

Each episode was filmed in a single shot, including one showing a session between Jamie and a child psychologist played by Erin Doherty
Thorne appeared on BBC Two's Newsnight this week alongside three men aged 18, 19 and 21.
When asked about a social media ban for under-16s, they had mixed feelings.
One said it was "a great idea, within reason", another said it would be "quite unfair", while the third was against the idea, arguing that "social media has brought a lot of good to young generations as well".
For Thorne, the question about how to police smartphones and social media is about to come very close to home.
His son is eight, and Thorne says he wants to make sure he establishes "a method of communicating with him" as he grows up. Soon, he will want his own phone.
While working on the series, he has been thinking about how to handle his son's future use of technology. "And I'm still processing how to do it."
Researching and writing Adolescence has opened his eyes about the challenges facing young people and parents, he says. But how to tackle them? That's the hardest part.

He urges Sir Keir to "rather urgently" consider a smartphone ban in schools and a "digital age of consent", similar to Australia, which has passed a law banning children under 16 from using social media.
The writer has also suggested extending that to all smartphone use and gaming.
"I think we should be doing what Australia is doing, and separating our children from this pernicious disease of thought that is infecting them," he says.

 

[DamnWolves!]

where is the threshold for this countries citizens to actually start going French Revolution?

No one wants to die for something when they have food in their stomachs and an iPhone in their pockets.

 

[lamppost]

I haven't seen the show, but from what I've read it would be a lot more palpable if they'd also create shows targeting the actual issues, not side issues like Andrew Tate and 'the Manosphere'.

I always imagined Andrew Tate's audience is single men in their 20s-40s, I cannot see too many 13 year olds worshipping a bald, chinless faggot. Boys and young men nowadays seem more interested than ever in the gym, MMA/boxing, and spending their pocket money on overpriced aftershave, so something they are taking in is positive. Should we not be more worried by the ones in dresses?

But to get back to the main point, Three Girls was created around 8-9 years ago and centred on the Rochdale grooming gangs, and maybe we should be seeing more of this stuff? Or a TV series' that focuses on the rapes happening around migrant hotels? How can we have a 'warning to our children' and not mention Discord/Reddit grooming?

Stephen Graham was also in a show recently called The Walk-In, about a skinhead turned activist. As well acted and written as the show might be, I just find these things hard to watch knowing the writers won't acknowledge the elephant in the room.

 

[BulkForceFive]

What was that British show where the guy literally took a black pill, and had a real-life 'meme folder' of printed out pics? I think someone got shot with a crossbow at the end of it... anyways, this show is only slightly more sensible than that one and it'll end up being memed on the same way.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

I always imagined Andrew Tate's audience is single men in their 20s-40s, I cannot see too many 13 year olds worshipping a bald, chinless faggot. Boys and young men nowadays seem more interested than ever in the gym, MMA/boxing, and spending their pocket money on overpriced aftershave, so something they are taking in is positive. Should we not be more worried by the ones in dresses?

I think these types of 'concerned' adults tend to be really, really far off when they give they fret about what teenagers are watching. In the last couple of years I have had to sit through talks at work about how much young teen boys (13-15) are influenced by Jordan Peterson. And I don't know, maybe it's me who's wrong, but I can't for one second imagine boys that age having the slightest fucking interest in Jordan Peterson. A man in his sixties with, aside from his somewhat unfortunate voice, a speaking manner that is not likely to captivate young teens, and who has a known history of drug abuse that he literally cries about on camera.

The thread I mentioned on mumsnet has a post from a mother who said she watched it with her two teens and they couldn't stop laughing at the stupid obsession the show has with emojis. The writers of this series are the types of adults who'd do a drug awareness advert about the dangers of cake.

 

[ParasiteSteve]

There's definitely other elements commenting more widely on what a British bloke is like - the mother and daughter are largely focused on placating the short-fuse father during the last episode, and maybe we're supposed to assume that because Jamie internalised the idea that "woman placates man" is why he finds his interactions with both Katie and the psychologist so challenging and why he comes to threatening/murdering these women who aren't kowtowing to him. But for the most part the school scenes and this 13 year old talking so casually about pornified expectations around girls and relationships are highly disturbing - but in some places, not really that exaggerated at all.

So at the core level, its white man bad. I must say, thats a really bold message and something we have only seen about 6 million times already. I do hope it causes a huge change (of white men, everyone else is perfect and walks on clouds, just white men need to change.) and the future in which white women can dance with the united colours of benneton in food adverts. Thats the future I hope to live in.

 

[Otterly]

1. How many school age white boys have been convicted of stabbing white female classmates who rejected them ? (A small number?)
2. How many schoolgirls have had nudes either freely taken or coerced and passed around (quite a few I’d wager.)
3. How many white British children have been raped/stabbed/killed by immigrants?
Just be interesting to see the actual figures for each of these crimes. To gauge the scale of the issue. If we had to put the three options above in ascending order of victim number, what would we expect?

 

[AssignedEva]

So at the core level, its white man bad. I must say, thats a really bold message and something we have only seen about 6 million times already. I do hope it causes a huge change (of white men, everyone else is perfect and walks on clouds, just white men need to change.) and the future in which white women can dance with the united colours of benneton in food adverts. Thats the future I hope to live in.

No, the dad's not a bad guy and is shown to be loving and supportive of his family. The women are coddling him - but that's because it's his birthday, he's had a lot on his plate and his day's being ruined because some little shits sprayed "nonce" on his van. The main thing both parents dwell on is they just left their son to play on the internet, because his Dad struggled to bond with him - but the mum acknowledges she was around way more and didn't do anything to intervene, because they viewed kids using the internet as normal. The black police officer is also distant from his son, spending all his time at work and the gym (but actively tries to address that). The Asian history teacher is incredibly dismissive of any involvement in Jamie's life, claiming he's "just a tutor" and didn't know him (despite history being Jamie's favourite subject).

"It's all the Dad's fault" is what you expect this show to say, but it isn't what it actually says. The showrunners talked about making sure there wasn't an easy "oh so that's why he did it". Unfortunately "white man bad" appears to be what both sides of the aisle were expecting the show to say and are behaving like it said that.

 

[tehpope]

There've already been tons of studies showing DEI training and bullshit like this backfires. They're going to turn some of these boys into Elliot Rogers.

a feature, not a bug. Just means they can crack down on bri'ish people's rights even more.

 

[Beautiful Border]

The writer has also suggested extending that to all smartphone use and gaming.
"I think we should be doing what Australia is doing, and separating our children from this pernicious disease of thought that is infecting them," he says.

And gaming? Does he think ten year olds playing Mario Kart is an issue? Just how out of touch is he?

Also, the Australian "social media ban" for under 16s is basically a model of how not to pass legislation. They passed the bill before they figured out how they would actually implement it. The onus has been placed on social media companies - they've been told that the age verification systems they implement have to be rigorous (so not just ticking a box saying they're over 16), but they've also been told they can't collect user's sensitive personal information. See if you can figure out the problem with that - if you can, you're smarter than the Australian government.

They also haven't actually defined what "social media" is. No clear definition of it has been provided. Which seems like a problem when you're trying to pass sweeping legislation on it.

What was that British show where the guy literally took a black pill, and had a real-life 'meme folder' of printed out pics? I think someone got shot with a crossbow at the end of it... anyways, this show is only slightly more sensible than that one and it'll end up being memed on the same way.

Ah, that was Hollyoaks. The worst soap on British TV. It's a show that has only existed for the past twenty years because it's on after The Simpsons at dinner time and no one can be bothered to find the remote.

 

[ParasiteSteve]

No, the dad's not a bad guy and is shown to be loving and supportive of his family. The women are coddling him - but that's because it's his birthday, he's had a lot on his plate and his day's being ruined because some little shits sprayed "nonce" on his van. The main thing both parents dwell on is they just left their son to play on the internet, because his Dad struggled to bond with him - but the mum acknowledges she was around way more and didn't do anything to intervene, because they viewed kids using the internet as normal. The black police officer is also distant from his son, spending all his time at work and the gym (but actively tries to address that). The Asian history teacher is incredibly dismissive of any involvement in Jamie's life, claiming he's "just a tutor" and didn't know him (despite history being Jamie's favourite subject).

"It's all the Dad's fault" is what you expect this show to say, but it isn't what it actually says. The showrunners talked about making sure there wasn't an easy "oh so that's why he did it". Unfortunately "white man bad" appears to be what both sides of the aisle were expecting the show to say and are behaving like it said that.

I am going to assume you are a woman and this niggercattle dogshit television is geared towards you. Its clearly, as always with the beeb, the white man who is ultimately at fault. I bet the show never mentioned paki rape gangs, the niggers that get stab happy in London, or in fact the police often have a clear indication of someone acting up and about to do something awful. No, its his dad being distant, with some tacit shit from the females which amounts to "I trust this male too much".

I often wonder who the fuck is still watching and paying for a license for the BBC, considering the complete shit they put out. I guess its just white women and their pet migrants.