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Should be a wild four years.

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When the punishment is being flown off to a black hole to never be heard from again, yes we should be sure that we are sending the right people.

Intent matters. Or it used to. A guy jumping the border to be a low-wage contractor off the books is not the same as a guy jumping the border to sell drugs and commit reprisals for the boss back home.

Both should be removed from the country, but only one should be sent to what is effectively a black site.
They should both just be mulched.
 
I think Trump doesn't want to actually buy that shithole, but he bullshitted about it and now has to put his money where his mouth is. The easiest way to fix this is to send the least appealing organism on the planet (indian, woman) and ask Greenlanders "Don't you want to be ruled by this?" They vote No, you keep your money.
Orangeland is necessary for the US to have dominance in the Arctic. Once we have Orangeland then it’s mildly annoying Quebec into causing all Canadians to have migraines until they MAID.

Oh no! He’s actually doing he said he was going to do!
 
When the punishment is being flown off to a black hole to never be heard from again, yes we should be sure that we are sending the right people.
If they're here illegally, wherever they're sent off to shouldn't be our problem.

Intent matters. Or it used to. A guy jumping the border to be a low-wage contractor off the books is not the same as a guy jumping the border to sell drugs and commit reprisals for the boss back home.
They both "jumped the border." They both should be handled accordingly. Let me play the "conservative is a liberal that is five years apart" card for this example. People may be more sympathetic for the migrant being a low-wage contractor if illegal immigration didn't get out of control as it is now.

Now, I don't care. If it helps, consider it "collateral damage."
 
When the punishment is being flown off to a black hole to never be heard from again, yes we should be sure that we are sending the right people.

Intent matters. Or it used to. A guy jumping the border to be a low-wage contractor off the books is not the same as a guy jumping the border to sell drugs and commit reprisals for the boss back home.

Both should be removed from the country, but only one should be sent to what is effectively a black site.
Ever heard the word "Deterrent"?
 
When the punishment is being flown off to a black hole to never be heard from again, yes we should be sure that we are sending the right people.
ICE already does this though. You people act like we just load them on a plane and send them off without processing anything at all. That's not how this works. You get a chance to show ICE you have papers. ICE does the processing already. A court date is not needed. If you're going to insist you're not Tren De Agua, well guess what? So does every Tren De Agua member.

Intent matters. Or it used to. A guy jumping the border to be a low-wage contractor off the books is not the same as a guy jumping the border to sell drugs and commit reprisals for the boss back home.
It absolutely does not matter. Everyone here illegally already committed the same crime. Just because one is gangbanger and one isn't doesn't make a difference. You cannot tell the difference between one or another. In the migrant hotels you had 12 year olds having knife fights in the fucking hallway because one was wearing the opposite gang colors.

Look, I'll fully admit I'm MATI but only because this empathetic outlook of viewing these people as just "people looking for a better life" is a complete Psyop and I'm absolutely fed up with it. The reality is the world is a terrible, awful place with terrible, awful people and nobody is innocent. Do you think these "families are innocent"? They aren't. If I'm a cartel and I have a family that can't pay to get across the border, and a couple that can, I'm taking your children at fucking gunpoint, giving them to the couple that can pay and sending you across the border as a "family". If you don't think this happens, it happens literally all the fucking time. You people have 0 grasp of how horrifying these border crossings actually are. Take a trip to Cuidad Juarez, I promise you that you won't have any mercy for these people by the end. That place is literally Hell on Earth.

So I'm sorry, but no. I have 0 mercy for these people and neither should you. You have no idea who they are, what they've done, and they'll never, ever tell you.
 
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When the punishment is being flown off to a black hole to never be heard from again, yes we should be sure that we are sending the right people.

Intent matters. Or it used to. A guy jumping the border to be a low-wage contractor off the books is not the same as a guy jumping the border to sell drugs and commit reprisals for the boss back home.

Both should be removed from the country, but only one should be sent to what is effectively a black site.
Sure but blame lies at the feet of mass-immigration activists. When they flooded America with immigrants they ensured that something terrible would happen to a large group of people; they were just banking on the victims being the native Americans instead of the immigrants. Deportation will always carry suffering but it has to be done. Purposefully ferrying in a massive population so large that it necessitates deportation to protect the natives is a sin and should be considered a large scale war crime. The same thing will be coming for Europe and the Anglo Commonwealth nations soon.
 
Because the government should always be made to prove their actions.

The government says that they are getting rid of the bad people. I do not trust them on their word that they are doing the right thing. They need to demonstrate that the power they wield is being used appropriately.
This is only possible if you have a venue to do it that isn't itself politically captured.
 
The plight of boys and men, once sidelined by Democrats, is now a priority
This article is bizarre. They say things that act like they get it, but then
Moore will hold a cabinet meeting in April to discuss plans for the state agencies, but he has some initial goals: to encourage more men in his state to pursue jobs in education and health care, help boys within the juvenile justice system, and make sure he solicits input from boys and men on how the initiatives are designed.
shows that they don't. Hopefully someone else can better explain my confusion.

Other articles were good, but I was mostly focused on this one. I get the same feeling reading it as I do listening to women talk to other women about what men are into (and vice versa), and maybe that's the underlying issue. This part was hilarious though:
The governors’ speeches touched on many of these issues, and earned cautious applause from masculinity researchers, who said they reflected a promising shift.
(Bolding mine)
 
They do not have rights.
They do actually, it's just that under Enemy Alien's act, the President can suspend some of those rights (like the right for a day in court). See:
I recently came across an interesting Supreme Court case.

"As Congress explicitly recognized in the recent Administrative Procedure Act, some statutes "preclude judicial review." Act of June 11, 1946, § 10, 60 Stat. 237, 243. Barring questions of interpretation and constitutionality, the Alien Enemy Act of 1798 is such a statute. Its terms, purpose, and construction leave no doubt. [...] "The act concerning alien enemies, which confers on the president very great discretionary powers respecting their persons," Marshall, C.J., in Brown v. United States, 8 Cranch 110, 126, "appears to me to be as unlimited as the legislature could make it." Washington, J., in Lockington v. Smith, 15 Fed. Cas. No. 8448 at p. 760. The very nature of the President's power to order the removal of all enemy aliens rejects the notion that courts may pass judgment upon the exercise of his discretion. This view was expressed by Mr. Justice Iredell shortly after the Act was passed, Case of Fries, 9 Fed. Cas. No. 5126, and every judge before whom the question has since come has held that the statute barred judicial review. [...] But such a finding, at the President's behest, was likewise not to be subjected to the scrutiny of courts. [...] The Act is almost as old as the Constitution, and it would savor of doctrinaire audacity now to find the statute offensive to some emanation of the Bill of Rights. The fact that hearings are utilized by the Executive to secure an informed basis for the exercise of summary power does not argue the right of courts to retry such hearings, nor bespeak denial of due process to withhold such power from the courts." - Ludecke v. Watkins, 335 U.S. 160, 68 S. Ct. 1429, 92 L. Ed. 1881 (1948)

Tldr: The courts have no authority to review Trump's Alien Enemy act orders, and any hearings (regarding the usage of this law) Trump attends are not obligation, but merely a choice.
 
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