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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[isalaide]

Allowing one appeal would satisfy all their Convention rights, there's long standing precedent in Strasbourg to that effect. The decision to allow more than one is a straight up political hangover from Y2K.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

It would also help if we scrapped free legal representation for these illegals.

Literally starmers main income.

 

[BongoMongo]

It's free to them. We foot the bill. Nothing free is free, someone is always paying for it. In this case we, the taxpayer, are feeding, clothing and housing these subhuman vermin and then paying for them to fuck about with our legal system and clog it up, too.

Funny how there's no money to sort out the absolute shit show that is dental care in this country but there's tons of cash to pay for blacks and browns to invade our country.

 

[Mercurial]

Normal people not having dental care is 100% intentional.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

By design to replace whites, doesn't matter if it did and actively still is back firing on them. They will bring in a new client group and pander to it to replace you and bring down wages and rights for the natives. The end goal of all of this is to turn the UK into some where like Dubai or Saudi Arabia with a massive wealth divide and the few last ethnically native people being sat at the top with the remaining natives being swept away into the ethnic sludge of the imported serfs.

It’s already like that, so the question is, why turn everything to shit on top of it for no reason

They don't care, they only care about the medium term and being in power.

Ok. But if you are in power you don’t want everything you control to bd shit surely.

If all they care about is being in power they are absolutely screwing themselves long term.

It’s very funny

 

[Midwit]

Page 911 yeah baby!!!

 

[Otterly]

In a side note, I saw a truly phenomenal DWP figure from 2024 that I will track down the source for, that EIGHT PERCENT of all kids under 18 in the UK are in receipt of DLA, overwhelmingly for autism and or ADHD, what the absolute fuck,

It’s partly because to access any kind of help you need the paperwork. If your kid is behind in any way you’re out of luck in the state sector unless you’ve got a diagnosis and that opens the door to the magical help and benefits. Once you’ve got one you get all the others. ADHD is the trendy one now, autism was before. Of course some kids need the help but for a lot it’s just the only way they get extra class help or the parents get extra benefits

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

I did work for a "company that blows up brown people" and I remember they had us doing diversity and equity training. Couldn't help but crack a smile a couple of times.

One of the reasons I left a "company that blows up brown people" was they were going hard over on the pronouns shite, and generally employing the soggiest bunch of wet wipes you've ever seen.

We're making systems to deliver death from a distance, and these MFs are pride monthing it up and celebrating ramadan smh.

 

[A-Logato]

Page 911 yeah baby!!!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/isTNo15lWqI

 

[Kier Starmer]

WE DID IT GUYS!!!!! The Evil is defeated, oh wait!

 

[Overdrive]

One of the reasons I left a "company that blows up brown people" was they were going hard over on the pronouns shite, and generally employing the soggiest bunch of wet wipes you've ever seen.

We're making systems to deliver death from a distance, and these MFs are pride monthing it up and celebrating ramadan smh.

I've seen none of that so far which was very surprising after I started. I suspect it's just because my unit is quite small and hidden away from the rest of the company.

 

[Hazel Motes]

This is a worthwhile video on the Crime and Policing Bill, specifically on a clause that allows the police to bypass search warrants.

 

[FedPostalService]

Why don’t we just build the 1.5 million homes out of the bodies of the migrants?

 

[teriyakiburns]

You can say it like that and be noble and stay for all your life but the reality is you do back breaking work just to subsidize a local muslim family of 20 who want you dead. No, what's the point? Go somewhere whiter and nicer where you won't be actively discriminated against and hated by an increasingly large part of population.

Immigrants are always resented. It doesn't matter where they're from, or how similar they are to the place they've immigrated to, they will always be resented. They might learn the language and try to adapt to the culture, but until several generations of assimilation have occurred, they don't fit in. They might never fit in.

Besides, what you're suggesting is exactly what these people want. They want us to abandon our lands and become rootless, disconnected, deracinated cogs in a planet-wide economic machine. It's how every empire until the British managed population and prevented rebellion: they moved people groups around, split them up, and destroyed any common connections they had to their surroundings and culture. A person with no homeland, surrounded by difference, is easily controlled. To run away is to participate in genocide; it makes their job significantly easier if people volunteer to leave. I'd rather resist until they commit to forced relocations. If my life gets hard, then it gets hard. I've been homeless and poor before. I can do it again.

 

[Otterly]

We're making systems to deliver death from a distance, and these MFs are pride monthing it up and celebrating ramadan smh.

I cannot get over this kind of doublethink, but it’s amazing. You have the water companies pumping sewage into the rivers while simultaneously getting all the ESG points for greenness and community outreach. My own industry spent fifteen years training me annually in the vital importance of informed consent free of any coercion and then told us get the Covid shots or be fired.
It’s like actual morality is irrelevant and only the veneer, the appearance, of it and only to the right targets is taken any notice of.
paint those drone noses with rainbows and it doesn’t matter how many brown civilian weddings you drone strike! You’re still a goodie! lol.
It’s a kind of moral queasiness.

 

[Swerf'n'Terf]

Made a thread for Reform v Rupert Lowe / Nigel Farage deathwatch / Rupert Lowe for PM movement here for anyone interested.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

It's free to them. We foot the bill. Nothing free is free, someone is always paying for it. In this case we, the taxpayer, are feeding, clothing and housing these subhuman vermin and then paying for them to fuck about with our legal system and clog it up, too.

I often wonder if this is the most absurd thing throughout history that the British taxpayer (or indeed any taxpayer) has been forced to foot the bill for. We're paying for the ruination of our culture. We're paying for people who despise us to come and drain our resources. We're paying for browns to come and creep on and abduct our daughters from outside their schools.

There's a lot of discussion ITT about "what will it take to get the people to rise up". Honestly the very fact that we haven't done so already makes me think that there is literally nothing that will motivate the British people to do so. The line hasn't so much been crossed as it has been left in the dust several hundred miles behind us.

 

[isalaide]

It’s partly because to access any kind of help you need the paperwork. If your kid is behind in any way you’re out of luck in the state sector unless you’ve got a diagnosis and that opens the door to the magical help and benefits. Once you’ve got one you get all the others. ADHD is the trendy one now, autism was before. Of course some kids need the help but for a lot it’s just the only way they get extra class help or the parents get extra benefits

They shouldn't get extra class help. If they aren't managing in mainstream they should be sent to sped town. The amount of money this country sets on fire trying to prop up its junior retards is ridiculous. Of course they grow up thinking they can spend their lives wanking and playing vidya all day instead of going to work, the government is literally paying their parents because they are retarded. DLA is a competency based assessment. If your personal potato gets too near baseline, you'll get your benefit book took away, better encourage them to sped out as much as possible. Plenty of them are pakis too to add insult to injury.

Mainstreaming retards was a disaster that even the teaching unions now recognise as a disaster. Fuck knows why it is allowed to continue.

 

[chimpSculpture]

A semi-major university the University of Sussex has been fined £585,000 after "failing to uphold freedom of speech".

The biggest fine ever given out to a university by the regulator since they gained the power to fine universities for Freedom of Speech violations in January.

The regulator (Office for Students) fined the university because of their zero-tolerance policies to "transphobic propaganda".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn9vr4vjzgqo

Is this really a legitimate attempt to punish? Or as an excuse to rake in funds for the Government? The uni is calling it an "unreasonably absolutist definition of free speech" LOL. There's only one definition, allowing your staff to be harassed because they published their views ISN'T IT.

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The University of Sussex has been fined £585,000 by the higher education regulator, the Office for Students (OfS), for failing to uphold freedom of speech.
It follows the case of Prof Kathleen Stock, who left the university in 2021 after being accused of transphobia for her views on sex and gender issues.
The OfS criticised the university's policy statement on Trans and Non-Binary equality, saying its requirement to "positively represent trans people" and an assertion that "transphobic propaganda [would] not be tolerated" could lead staff and students to "self-censor".
The University of Sussex plans to challenge the OfS findings legally, Vice-Chancellor Prof Sasha Roseneil said.

Describing the judgement as an "unreasonably absolutist definition of free speech", the university warned that the ruling left institutions facing "opposing and irreconcilable duties" which rendered them "powerless to prevent abusive, bullying and harassing speech".
The OfS, it added, had pursued a "vindictive and unreasonable campaign" against it.
Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said free speech and academic freedom were "non-negotiables" in universities.
"I have been clear that where those principles are not upheld, robust action will be taken," she said.
"If you go to university you must be prepared to have your views challenged, hear contrary opinions and be exposed to uncomfortable truths.
"We are giving the OfS stronger powers on freedom of speech so students and academics are not muzzled by the chilling effect demonstrated in this case."
The OfS was given the power in January to issue fines where freedom of speech was not upheld at a university.
Arif Ahmed, the OfS director for freedom of speech and academic freedom, said the decision to fine the university had followed a thorough investigation.
It found, he said, that the policy had meant staff feared disciplinary action and Prof Stock had changed the way she taught her course as a result.
Mr Ahmed added that the OfS was "concerned that a chilling effect may have caused many more students and academics at the university to self-censor".
The regulator said the Trans and Non-Binary Equality Policy Statement issued by the University of Sussex was looked at in the context of existing legal duties on freedom of speech as well as the European Convention on Human Rights.
In its report, the OfS found four elements of the policy to be "concerning".
These included a requirement for course materials to "positively represent trans people and trans lives" and an assertion that "transphobic propaganda… [would] not be tolerated".

Another part of the policy highlighted by the regulator said "transphobic abuse" would be a serious disciplinary offence for staff and students.
It also looked at the management and governance of the university around freedom of speech.
Prof Stock faced protests on the university campus after she published a book questioning whether gender identity was more "socially significant" than biological sex.
Posters were put up on the campus calling for her to be sacked, and students turned up with placards at an open day.
Prof Stock rejected accusations that she was transphobic and described the experience to the BBC as a "surreal anxiety dream".
She resigned from her university post in 2021 and was awarded an OBE for services to education.
The fine is the largest issued to a university and is likely to be seen as an intention to hold the line over the expression of legal views.
In a strongly worded statement, the University of Sussex said the regulator had been determined to make an example of its case and "entrench an extreme libertarian free speech position".
It added there had been no "substantive engagement" other than via written correspondence, and it accused the regulator of pursuing a "vindictive and unreasonable campaign".
The policy at the heart of the investigation had been adapted from a template, according to the university, and had since been changed.

 

[Vesperus]

Is this really a legitimate attempt to punish? Or as an excuse to rake in funds for the Government?

I think there might be a clue in the article:

Arif Ahmed, the OfS director for freedom of speech and academic freedom, said the decision to fine the university had followed a thorough investigation.

Brown hands wrote this fatwa. Not that it's a good sign for the future, but we might get a few laughs in before the end.