EU Chaos as Ireland’s opposition shouts down speaker, shuts down parliament - Government forces through new speaking rules — but the Sinn Féin-led opposition makes it impossible for the other side to speak at all.

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Led by the nationalist Sinn Féin, opposition parties heckled and shouted every time Prime Minister Micheál Martin tried to answer a question.
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Ireland’s parliament suffered a nervous breakdown Tuesday when the government forced through new speaking rules that the opposition refuses to accept.

Led by the nationalist Sinn Féin, opposition parties heckled and shouted every time Prime Minister Micheál Martin tried to answer a question or the speaker, Verona Murphy, tried to impose order.

After a two-month deadlock over speaking rights, the government had hoped the confrontation would end Tuesday. It forced through an amendment to existing rules that creates new twice-weekly slots for pro-government independent lawmakers to ask questions of Martin.

But soon after that amendment was passed, Martin was shouted down as he attempted to answer his first question. As scores of opposition lawmakers stood and refused to stop shouting, Murphy conceded defeat and shut parliament for the day.

It marked the second time she was forced to take that step following January’s first failed attempt to elect Martin as Taoiseach, Ireland’s “chief.”

Murphy wasn’t even able to announce the official outcome of Tuesday’s vote, she said, because opposition lawmakers refused to sign the document confirming the number of votes cast on their side. Moments earlier, video screens inside the Leinster House parliament building showed the government had won in a 94-74 verdict.

A visibly angry Murphy at one point accused opposition lawmakers of treating her, the first female speaker of Ireland’s parliament, with “misogyny.”

“Deputies, while you may not have respect for me, I am the chair. When I speak, nobody else speaks,” she said during one of several failed attempts to get Sinn Féin politicians to sit down and shut up.

Collapse in consensus​

The collapse in cross-party consensus on the rules governing Dáil Éireann, Ireland’s parliament, has made it impossible to establish cross-party committees that scrutinize government bills.

The standoff reflects opposition hostility to the make-up of Martin’s coalition government: a centrist combo of his Fianna Fáil party and Foreign Minister Simon Harris’ Fine Gael supported by a small, right-wing group of non-party politicians styling themselves the Regional Independents.

The key architect of the Regional Independents is Tipperary lawmaker Michael Lowry, a one-time Fine Gael heavyweight who in 2011 was found by a fact-finding tribunal to have engaged in shady deals with some of Ireland’s top business figures.

In exchange for securing their pro-government votes, the Regional Independents won a lot: the speaker’s chair for Murphy, junior ministerial posts with Cabinet access — and, most controversially, parliamentary speaking rights normally earmarked for opposition lawmakers.

The opposition insists Lowry, in particular, cannot be allowed to participate during their twice-weekly opportunities to question Martin. The amendment passed Tuesday sought to overcome that complaint by creating a new time slot for questions from “other members.”

In between interruptions, Martin argued that Sinn Féin and other opposition leaders were deliberately making a mountain out of a molehill in a bid to sabotage the functioning of parliament. He said the tactic was particularly reckless given Ireland — the EU’s biggest per-capita exporter of goods, particularly pharmaceuticals, to the United States — may be about to take an oversized hit from U.S. President Donald Trump’s threat to impose hefty tariffs on that trade.

But Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald said normal business wouldn’t resume unless Martin agreed to rules that firmly place the Regional Independents on the government side of the house.

“The combined opposition are not backing down on this matter. We reject your attempt to run roughshod over this Dáil and to ram through this motion,” she told Martin. “What you will not get away with is pretending that signed and sealed government TDs can act as opposition. You cannot be in government and opposition at the same time.”

The only pro-government lawmaker who seemed to enjoy Tuesday’s abortive debate was Lowry, who didn’t speak but frequently waved to opposition chiefs — among other gestures — as they criticized him.

Lowry offered a particularly broad smile when Labour Party leader Ivana Bacik, a constitutional law expert, dismissed Tuesday’s motion creating a slot called Other Members’ Questions. “This device,” she said, “is really being introduced to give the Lowry lads special time to tell the government how well you’re doing. You know it. Everyone in the country knows it.”

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What's the point of holding the highest offices if you are still powerless against a group of retards hollering at you?
Typical woman L. Just look at how quickly she started bawling about misogyny. You know who didn't bawl about misogyny no matter how much shit the Irish threw her way, even when she was on that island?
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This unfortunately is a common occurrence over here. Every single person in that room is some flavour of lolcow, and the common consensus at this point is that the State genuinely hates its own people and is more interested in increasing elected politician's salaries and importing infinite browns.

Verona Murphy is a former member of this independent coalition group, but as Speaker she is supposed to be a neutral party and have no political affiliation. While there is suspicion there on her part, this is not the first time a slapfight occurred to the point she had enough and just walked out, but it also concerned the same topic so I think she needs to be watched like a hawk considering.

Michael Lowry is another problem, he has links to notorious former Taoiseach Charles Haughey* and it's safe to assume that he has the power he has right now as he either has compromising info on someone or bought his way into the position, we don't know but something shady is involved regardless. Either way, there's another economic recession and everyone who isn't in power or already well off is fucked.

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I have to be selective of what I say here, but I work in archives and have worked on the personal papers of Haughey, including minister correspondence and content that was later used in the Mahon & Moriarty Tribunals. Certain items (like the Lawlor memo) were missing of course, as they were audited before donation. I can confidentially say from what I've read that he is directly responsible for Ireland being a corporate tax haven that has been crippled by multinationals setting up shop here, artificially inflating the GDP and importing billions of jeets & browns and further crippling social services and housing programs. There's offices for Walmart and Wells-Fargo in Dublin city. Neither of these businesses have stores/branches here.

Haughey and his associates are at fault for our current situation and have a "fuck you, got mine" attitude about it. I want to elaborate more but I could get in shit irl.

I hate this stupid island and the people who run it.
 
Either way, there's another economic recession and everyone who isn't in power or already well off is fucked.
I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the idea that while there is definitely opportunism here in terms of increasing speaking time, this is mainly a way of appearing busy while doing nothing. They all get to go to work everyday and feel really important and tell themselves they are fighting for the rights of the people who voted for them, while not having to face any difficult decisions. And when things go really wrong due to their inaction, they can point at the other side and say it was their fault.

We're very clearly heading into a dire recession, with the signs of that already showing at various levels. But unlike the last recession where most of the population had been blindly positive until everything collapsed and were then left more bewildered than angry. There is currently an angry population who are less likely to be placated when things become more obviously shit. We're also, completely caught in the middle of the animosity between the US and the EU. A lot of very difficult decisions need to be made right now. So it makes perfect sense that the weasels in the Dáil have spent the year so far arguing about a made up problem.
 
If your parliament doesn't have standing orders that govern conduct in the chamber, for which members can be removed for breaking, it is useless. So either the speaker is useless for not enforcing rules, or the parliament is useless.

But it's no surprise that the Shinners would be trying to terrorise their opponents into submission. It is what they've always been about.
 
I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the idea that while there is definitely opportunism here in terms of increasing speaking time, this is mainly a way of appearing busy while doing nothing. They all get to go to work everyday and feel really important and tell themselves they are fighting for the rights of the people who voted for them, while not having to face any difficult decisions. And when things go really wrong due to their inaction, they can point at the other side and say it was their fault.
So in other words, kindergarteners pretending to be politicians
 
Luckily the IRA is only figuratively, not literally, blowing shit up here.
 
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