Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

[Nero Fiddled]

So they've been all over the media with this. Has a single one yet been asked, "When two teams from two different communities with two different outlooks on this play each other, which of the two local communities are you saying should get to set the rules of the game?"

I'm assuming it'll be something like:

Have you got men on the ladies team?

Yes - fuck off then
No - cool, we'll see you on Friday.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Mentally ill men in dresses most affected.



Same here.



WPATH has no idea what is included in their own "Standards of Care."

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

ATLANTA -- Georgia's Senate passed two bills Monday that would ban most gender-affirming care for minors and people incarcerated in state prisons, mirroring moves by Republicans across states and a handful of executive orders by President Donald Trump targeting transgender people.

The chamber voted 34-19 for a bill that would ban puberty blockers and most gender-affirming care for people under 18, including those already undergoing treatment. Georgia lawmakers in 2023 banned most gender-affirming surgeries and hormone replacement therapies for transgender minors unless they were already receiving treatment. The law lets doctors prescribe puberty blockers.

“You’re asking (minors) to make changes that will have changes to the rest of their lives,” bill sponsor Republican Sen. Ben Watson, of Savannah, said Monday. “It is not a fair decision to them. It is not a fair decision to the parents.”

A second bill sponsored by Senate Majority Whip Randy Robertson passed 37-15 and would ban most gender-affirming care for people incarcerated in state prisons.

Last month, the chamber passed bills to ban transgender people from playing in school sports and cut off public funding for gender-affirming care for adults. The four bills will now head to the House for debate.

Georgia Senate advances bills to restrict gender-affirming care

PIERRE, S.D. (South Dakota Searchlight) — The South Dakota Senate passed a bill 27-6 on Monday at the Capitol prohibiting transgender people from using public restrooms or changing rooms aligned with their gender identity.

Some of the language in the bill was amended, which means it must go back to the House of Representatives for consideration of the changes.

Supporters said the legislation is a necessary measure to protect the privacy and security of women and girls.

“Our laws and policies should recognize and respect that males and females are biologically different,” said Sen. Mykala Voita, R-Bonesteel.

The legislation requires state-owned properties and other public entities, such as schools, to designate multi-occupancy changing rooms, restrooms or sleeping quarters exclusively for females or males.

The bill defines “female” as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that produces, transports, and utilizes eggs for fertilization,” and has a similar definition for “male” referencing “the reproductive system that produces, transports, and utilizes sperm for fertilization.”

The legislation empowers people who encounter “a member of the opposite sex in a restroom or changing room” to seek a court order against allowing it. A complaint would have cause for legal action if a public entity provided permission for a transgender person to use a bathroom matching their gender identity or failed to take reasonable steps to prohibit it.

Opponents of the bill said it is overly broad and could lead to unintended consequences. They questioned how schools and state facilities would monitor compliance and whether the law would lead to costly litigation.

Bill policing transgender people’s bathroom choice passes SD Senate

 

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The bill defines “female” as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that produces, transports, and utilizes eggs for fertilization,” and has a similar definition for “male” referencing “the reproductive system that produces, transports, and utilizes sperm for fertilization.”

These highly-specific biological definitions really need to make their way into every state legislature. Heading off at the pass all the bullshit arguments by degens about "What about women who can't have children? What about men who are infertile? What about the 0.00000001% of people who are born with a chromosomal mutation?"

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Opponents of the bill said it is overly broad and could lead to unintended consequences.

It could equally be said that this bill is broad because previous bills left gaps that led to the horrific unintended consequences we see today.

Frankly, the only people that are going to complain that the bill is too "broad" are those seeking to circumvent it.

 

[monstrous bubo]

These highly-specific biological definitions really need to make their way into every state legislature. Heading off at the pass all the bullshit arguments by degens about "What about women who can't have children? What about men who are infertile? What about the 0.00000001% of people who are born with a chromosomal mutation?"

I agree, but God I hate US legislative drafting. They try to cram everything into one long over complicated sentence and lose clarity. Apart from being fiddly and hard to read if you’re not a lawyer or smart, this one just opens the door to idiotic arguments about what’s natural development etc. Some pozzed academic will be found to argue in court that well akshually. That means more litigation, usually against small organisations that can’t afford it.

A better draft would be disjunctive and very specific defined terms, like a checklist eg:

A female is a person with:

1. XX chromosomes; or
2. [insert female DSDs]; or
3. [whatever else]; and / or
4. whatever else

but is not a person who:

1. [insert troonery]

That way you can, if you wish, include people with CAIS and exclude PAIS people, or whatever, and be really clear. Discover a new DSD? Amend and add.

 

[chronicle452]

Troon is upset WI is trying to pass common sense laws. The photo and bio have me cackling

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Boys cannot get pregnant.



Pretty sure we know who was actually doing the cherry picking Snaggle Tooth.

In a normal world this would be a disqualifying conflict of interest.






Troon activist judge is trying to rely on tweets instead of the actual challenged orders.



Troon activist judge is a massive science denier.




Troons are already disqualified from service based on rules that existed BEFORE Trump.

Genitourinary System​

• Horseshoe kidney or absence of one kidney
• Atrophy or absence of both testicles
• Undescended testicle
• Active or difficult to treat genital herpes (even if asymptomatic)
• Bilateral kidney stones or single kidney stone in the preceding 12 months of the exam
• History of abnormal menstrual cycle

Psychiatric and Personality Disorders​

• Any disorder or history of disorders with psychotic features
• History of impulse control and conduct disorders
• History of depression requiring medication, outpatient treatment or hospitalization
• History of anxiety requiring medication, outpatient treatment or hospitalization
• History of any eating disorder
• Attention deficit, hyperactivity disorder or learning disability such as dyslexia, which interferes with perceptual or academic skills past the 14th birthday. Use of medications to reduce symptoms of ADD or ADHD within the previous 24 months.

Common Disqualifying Medical Conditions

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

This will be overturned almost immediately. A wacky lesbo alphabet person judge does not have any auhority to second guess the military readiness decision of the commander in chief of the armed forces.

Just a quick word search, the opinion mentions the title "commander in chief" only one time in 79 pages and offfers no discussion of what that power entails.

 

[monstrous bubo]

Some choice lunacy from Terf Island


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Police and courts allowing criminals to choose their gender

Fears that allowing criminals to self-identify without legally changing sex is skewing crime statistics

Tim Sigsworth
19 March 2025 9:36am GMT

Police forces and the courts are allowing criminals to self-identify their gender if they have not legally changed sex.
Criminals who believe they are a different gender are routinely referred to by their preferred identity by police and in court.

It had previously been revealed that some forces record transgender rapists as female but guidance issued by forces and the courts indicates that criminals of all kinds can self-identify.

It is feared that the self-ID policy – which remains widely in force despite a series of high-profile trans cases – skews crime statistics.

While crime statistics are recorded for males and females, there are no specific records for transgender criminals.
Holding a Gender Recognition Certificate legally changes a person’s gender, but suspects are being recorded under their trans identity even if they do not have one.

Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, said “men should not be treated as women” in the criminal justice system.

“There are only two sexes, and it is not possible to change sex,” he said. “In matters of criminal law and justice, men should not be treated as women. In Government we were working towards clarifying the Equality Act to prevent public authorities like the police from implementing self-ID policies without legal foundation.”

Judges across England and Wales are advised to refer to transgender criminals in court according to their “chosen gender identity”.

Guidance issued by the Judicial Office says doing so is typically “unproblematic” and can be done “regardless of whether they have obtained legal recognition of their sex/gender by way of a GRC”.

But it also warns that “there will be situations where it is clearly inappropriate”, such as in the case of rape or where a witness knew the defendant as their former gender.

Similar practices are followed by a number of police forces, including the British Transport Police.

The force refers to and records the gender of transgender criminals according to “their preferred pronouns and gender identity” and that usually “records of sex would be recorded in line with their given/self-defined gender identity”, irrespective of whether they have a GRC or not. BTP denied this was the case when approached for comment.

Other forces, including South Yorkshire Police, require transgender suspects and criminals to have first acquired a GRC before they can be recorded under their trans identity.

But if criminals do have one, the force will recognise their gender transition even in sexual offence cases which can only be committed by biological males, such as rape.

Such cases include Isla Bryson, the Scottish two-time rapist who was referred to in court in 2023 with she/her pronouns, and Maddison Wilson, who died last month before being due to appear in court to face rape allegations.

The National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC), which represents senior police officers, advises forces to do the same.

“Policing should refer to a person’s sex, the law determines that where an individual holds a GRC, they have legally changed their sex,” a spokesman for the NPCC said.

South Yorkshire Police said its approach was in line with the Gender Recognition Act, the Equality Act and the Home Office’s “annual data requirement”, which set out how police should record crimes.

The policies have prompted critics to demand a change in approach across the criminal justice system.
Maya Forstater, chief executive of Sex Matters, said female victims were being treated “with utter contempt”.
“The recording of male rapists as female is surely one of the most heinous consequences of trans ideology being embedded in our public institutions,” she told The Telegraph.

‘Lost touch with reality’​

Cathy Larkman, policing lead for the Women’s Rights Network campaign group, added: “Unfortunately, it appears that they are so influenced by trans activism that they’ve completely lost touch with reality and their core purpose.

“Police forces have been corrupting the reliability of their own crime data for some years now by recording perpetrators on the basis of ‘self-identified gender identity’ rather than the material reality of sex.”

Richard Tice, the deputy leader of Reform UK, said: “This statistical gerrymandering is dangerous. This sort of virtue-signalling approach to policing needs to end immediately.”

The NPCC said: “The methods by which sex and gender re-assignment data is collected and reported in policing is also under development via Home Office commissioned research. Once this is shared, forces will be further assisted to understand the most appropriate terminology to use when recording such information.”

A British Transport Police spokesman said: “British Transport Police records crimes in line with the Home Office Annual Data Requirement (HOADR). The HOADR outlines that sex should be recorded in line with information on the individual’s birth certificate or gender recognition certificate. This is specified in law under the Gender Recognition Act 2004.”

A spokesman for the Courts and Tribunals Judiciary said: “The Equal Treatment Bench Book provides practical steps which help judicial office holders enable parties and witnesses to participate fully in the legal process. The bench book is a live document, regularly updated to incorporate the most up-to-date legislation, cases and practice directions.”

Its guidance warns that referring to a transgender person under their new gender can be “clearly inappropriate”, such as in a case of rape.

A spokesman for South Yorkshire Police said: “We follow national guidance and procedures set by the Home Office when recording a person’s personal information.

“We take all reports of rape, sexual assault or any other sexual crimes incredibly seriously and we continue to work tirelessly to support and listen to victims and to bring offenders to justice.”

The Home Office and the Ministry of Justice were also approached for comment.

Here are some of the totes valid women in the article

Davina Moore​

In July last year, Davina Moore was sent to a men’s prison after setting cars on fire in a campaign of harassment against his sister – but was addressed with she/her pronouns in court. The 54-year-old had poured petrol onto the Mazda and Hyundai cars owned by Sarah and Gary Smith in April 2024.

Scarlet Blake​

Born male but identified as a woman, Blake was sentenced to life imprisonment in February last year for murdering Jorge Martin Carreno in Oxford. Referred to by she/her pronouns during the trial, the 26-year-old’s crimes were recorded as having been committed by a woman. But Blake was then sent to a men’s prison on a minimum term of 24 years.

Zara Jade​

In 2023, Zara Jade, who wore stubble in a mugshot, was referred to as a woman in a police press release after being jailed for nine years for assault and robbery against his partner.

Susan Hope​

In March last year, Susan Hope was also described as a woman in court before being jailed for harassment and assaulting an emergency worker. Newcastle Crown Court heard Hope, formerly known as Andrew Fleming, became aggressive with a neighbour in the North East city. Hope was referred to using she/her pronouns in proceedings and wore stubble in a mugshot released by police.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Why is this autistic cross dressing retard pushing a bill on an issue that was already made moot by the United States Supreme Court literally a decade ago?




Not seeing a problem here Fat Dumb Gay Al.

 

[Surfin Terf]

Why is this autistic cross dressing retard pushing a bill on an issue that was already made moot by the United States Supreme Court literally a decade ago?

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Because it could be an easy legislative win for him and he needs to have something to show his voters for the humiliation of having a greasy troon representing them.

 

[Bill's Due]

Bill policing transgender people’s bathroom choice passes SD Senate

You don't hate mainstream media enough, you think you do, but you don't.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

They always eat their own.

The professional trannies are throwing Tim McBride under the bus.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Trans-identified male pedophile in hospital (serving a prison sentence), calls nurse a nigger three times because she referred to the patient as "Mr" as part of the discussion on removing his catheter.

So of course, NHS punishes the nurse. The British NHS is totally and completely captured by transgender ideology. I don't talk to people about transgender ideology any more but Western society is now so fucked up, I imagine there are people who would support the nurse being punished, or worse--as is typical for a handmaiden--they will gaslight you and say 'wait for the final outcome, you are making a mountain out of a molehill'.

Spoiler: The story

NHS nurse punished for calling transgender paedophile ‘Mr’

Spoiler: The story

An NHS nurse was punished after accidentally addressing a transgender paedophile as “Mr”.
The paedophile, a patient from a high-security men’s prison, called Jennifer Melle, 40, a “n-----” three times during an aggressive tirade at St Helier Hospital in Carshalton, Surrey.
But it was Ms Melle who was investigated and disciplined by the hospital in October 2024, with a final warning and a referral to the Nursing and Midwifery Council.

Now she is filing a legal claim against the Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals Trust for harassment, discrimination and human rights breaches.
Ms Melle said: “Ever since I have expressed my Christian beliefs under extreme pressure, I have been a marked woman.”
Last year, the patient, known only as Patient X, arrived from a men’s prison at Ms Melle’s ward to receive treatment for a urinary problem.
During the evening shift, a colleague told Ms Melle, the senior nurse on staff, that the patient wanted to self-discharge and a doctor was called for guidance.
Ms Melle spoke with the doctor on the phone outside the patient’s room, during which Ms Melle referred to the patient as “mister” and “he”.

She said she was discussing a catheter, for a male person, which needed to be removed, adding: “This was a real-life medical scenario that required accurate terminology to avoid any doubt between medical professionals.”
Overhearing Ms Melle, the patient who was born a man but identified as a woman, took issue with the male pronoun and title.

The nurse replied that she was “sorry I cannot refer to you as ‘her’ or ‘she’, as it’s against my faith and Christian values but I can call you by your name”.
The patient began to verbally abuse the nurse, saying: “Imagine if I called you n-----? How about I call you n-----? Yes, black n-----.”

The patient also lunged at her despite being restrained and threatened to make a complaint, she said.

Jennifer Melle is suing the hospital for harassment, discrimination and human rights breaches - CHP
Ms Melle said: “It was terrifying. I’d never been called that word before. And I thought I was going to be attacked.”
Last month, Ms Melle received a letter from the Nursing and Midwifery Council, which is assessing her ability to practise.
Its code of conduct states nurses should “not express your personal beliefs (including political, religious or moral beliefs) in an inappropriate way. Therefore, although [Ms Melle] felt unable to identify Patient X using the preferred pronouns due to her religion... it could be perceived that [Ms Melle’s] actions could… be seen as a potential breach of the code”.

Ms Melle has denied there was any breach of the code and said that a white colleague also referred to the patient as a male but suffered no abuse or investigation.
She said: “My conduct throughout this incident and during my career has been fully compliant with the code.
“I have been put at risk, but I am being treated like a criminal. Sadly, if you put your head above the parapet and speak truthfully on these issues in the NHS, the risk is that you will be knocked down, punished severely and demoted.”

NHS ‘captured by transgender ideology’​

Christian Legal Centre is supporting Ms Melle’s legal claim.
Andrea Williams, the centre’s chief executive, said: “The NHS appears to remain captured by transgender ideology to the point it is prepared to back a convicted paedophile, who was clearly very disturbed and shouting racist comments, over the Christian nurse.

“Jennifer Melle was genuinely doing her best while not wanting to deny her Christian faith and biological reality.
“We would ask Wes Streeting, as Health Secretary, to investigate what is happening here. He is already involved in the Darlington nurses’ case, and has previously said he is ‘horrified’ by how they are being treated. It’s time for government intervention on this matter.”
Eight nurses at Darlington Memorial Hospital are suing the County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust, their employer, for sexual discrimination and sexual harassment after Rose Henderson, a transgender nurse, was allowed to use a female changing room.
A spokesman for Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust said: “These matters are still subject to ongoing internal proceedings, so it wouldn’t be right for us to comment further.”

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Trans-identified male pedophile in hospital (serving a prison sentence), calls nurse a nigger three times because she referred to the patient as "Mr" as part of the discussion on removing his catheter.

A tranny pedo in prison?
Must have been a particularly bad one, they usually just let them out.

Leaving him to rot in jail would have done society a favour.

I wonder if this proposal to get rid of NHS England will slow this capture down.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

"accurate passports"

Nonsense like this is why the ACLU is a complete laughingstock.

 

[Surfin Terf]

"accurate passports"

Nonsense like this is why the ACLU is a complete laughingstock.

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In what context are intersex people being denied accurate passports? Is it all people with intersex conditions (or who claim to have intersex conditions) and are also trans? I don’t think they’re refusing to allow CAIS males change their sex to male, and I bet they aren’t even making them change it when the condition is discovered.
Of all the forced teaming that trannies do, I think the latching onto the DSD community is the most repulsive since they outnumber them 100 to 1

 

[Dolly Brooks]

I don’t understand how troonery doesn’t count as its own religion. Asking me to call a dude in a dress a certified ladywomans is just as ridiculous as a dude collecting thousands of animals and insects to take a ride on an ark. At least with biblical stories, you can blame any inconsistencies on a thousand-year-old game of telephone or symbolism. This troon shit was invented like three seconds ago and we’re supposed to take it as complete fact and it gets to outrank literally everything else?