UK United Kingdom Royal Family / Royal Families Drama General Thread - formerly "Prince Harry and Meghan to step back as senior royals"

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced they will step back as "senior" royals and work to become financially independent.

In a statement, Prince Harry and Meghan also said they plan to split their time between the UK and North America.

The BBC understands no other royal - including the Queen or Prince William - was consulted before the statement and Buckingham Palace is "disappointed".

Senior royals are understood to be "hurt" by the announcement.

In their unexpected statement on Wednesday, also posted on their Instagram page, the couple said they made the decision "after many months of reflection and internal discussions".

"We intend to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen."

They said they plan to balance their time between the UK and North America while "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages".

"This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity."

A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said discussions with the duke and duchess on their decision to step back were "at an early stage", adding: "We understand their desire to take a different approach, but these are complicated issues that will take time to work through."

The couple's announcement on Wednesday comes two months after the Duke of York withdrew from public life after a BBC interview about his ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in August.

Harry and Meghan to step back as senior royals

No other royals were consulted before the couple's announcement, the BBC understands.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Cheesegirl78]

If William removes H&Ms titles, who would be next in the LoS if William and his entire family were to be killed in an accident?
Andrew? Edward?

 

[obsdj]

If William removes H&Ms titles, who would be next in the LoS if William and his entire family were to be killed in an accident?
Andrew? Edward?

I'm pretty sure title has nothing to do with the succession. If Parliament doesn't sign an Act specifically removing Harry from the succession, Harry would be King.

 

[Corpun]

From all reports it sounds like Harry is dead to William. Once his softhearted father is gone, I expect he will act to remove their titles and Harry will be invited but shunted to the back row of the funeral. The titles are a big deal, because the Waleses continue to travel together as a family, contrary to protocol and in direct defiance of QEII’s orders. It’s been written that William and Catherine have decided that they’d prefer to die together as a family than travel separately. (This assumes they’d all be killed in the event of an accident, which isn’t always the case.) This leaves Harry still dangerously close to inheriting the throne.

William has zero incentive to make life easier for Harry after he has habitually deceived and lied about him and his wife, put their family in increased danger with the racism claims, and co-signed all of Meghan’s outright lies and bullshit.

He won’t even meet or speak with Harry, knowing that anything that is said will be sold to the highest bidder. It’s unlikely Harry will ever have the guts to detach from Meghan and the fairy tale he helped sell, even if he comes to his senses and realizes she’s demonic. He’s not strong or humble enough to admit how very wrong he got it.

The smart money is on the brothers never reconciling.

Harry has burnt every bridge and deserves it. He will be lucky if William gives him a small estate to live a quiet life in the background when Meghan divorces him.

If William removes H&Ms titles, who would be next in the LoS if William and his entire family were to be killed in an accident?
Andrew? Edward?

Removing titles wouldn't do anything but if everything the above user said is true, I wouldn't be shocked if he is officially removed from succession.

Which means it falls to Prince Andrew, as the next in line, if some freak accident kills all of William's family. Considering everything around him, I'm sure he has privately been forced to renounce his rights to succeed on the throne and it has just never been publicly stated because it would imply guilt. Which means the throne would probably go to Princess Beatrice unless renunciation of rights extends to Andrew's descendents, so it would go to Edward.

Also, as far as I am aware the person in the line of succession has to renounce rights to the throne, but this is all shaky considering the only modern renunciation is Edward VIII's abdication.

 

[Kosher Dill]

So what I'm hearing is, if we end up in a "King Ralph" situation, it might be better to go find who the current pretender to the Lord Protectorate is.

 

[obsdj]

Removing titles wouldn't do anything but if everything the above user said is true, I wouldn't be shocked if he is officially removed from succession.

Which means it falls to Prince Andrew, as the next in line, if some freak accident kills all of William's family.

I dunno, removing Harry would probably not preclude Harry's own children -- unless they, too, were specifically removed by Act of Parliament, but why would they? For that matter, what legitimate, legal reason would they have to remove Harry, especially considering they haven't removed Andrew?

 

[Free the Pedos]

It’s worse than that. William flies them around in a helicopter. Y

I thought he it once an the Queen, peace be upon her, reamed him out, but you stay he still does it?
To me, who is no one important, that indicates that they think it's better to die together and must have had a conversation with someone outside of the family about who will succeed him--NOT YOU HARRY.

 

[obsdj]

Actually, I've seen numerous articles floating around suggesting that the protocol of flying separately doesn't actually go into effect until Prince George turns 12, which is this summer. I'm guessing in the lead-up to his birthday, we might see more ink on that subject. Poor kid. All of them really, they didn't ask for any of this.

 

[blue gopher snakes]

A Mad King Harold arc would be an entertaining twist, if it didn’t imply the untimely deaths of several people including children against whom I bear no ill will. William and Catherine’s kids are cute and I would much prefer they and their parents survive for a long, long time. But still…

“He sits alone on a giant throne, pretending he’s the king. A little tyke who’s rather like a puppet on a string. He throws an angry tantrum if he cannot have his way. He calls for MumMeghan while he’s sucking his thumb, you see he doesn’t want to play.”

 

[Rich Evans Simp]

I’ve been trying to run down the origin of the claim that Meghan had an annulled first marriage to a man named Joseph Goldberg-Guiliano. I started poking around the anti-Meghan Tumblrsphere when it became clear that she was causing problems with William and Catherine in the run-up to the wedding. The evidence is so flimsy - but it’s also such an incredibly specific accusation. There was a lot of deliberate and not-so-deliberate muddying of the waters around her past.

Tumblr blogs pointed to this photo of Meghan in a white dress surrounded by girls in identical dresses. However, Meghan did wear a white dress to one of her school formals, in photos that were quite obviously taken at a high school event. But who wears matching dresses to prom or homecoming?

There is a man by that name, but he appears to have attended Northeastern University in Massachusetts, not Northwestern University in Illinois (Meghan’s alma mater). Blogs also cite a photo of Joseph with an obviously mixed-race baby. Some say it’s Meghan’s baby, some say he subsequently got married to a non-mixed black woman.

I don’t think the timeline for an early annulment matches up, but I’m fascinated how this random average dude got mixed up in this rumor.

Edit: I meant to put this is the Meghan Markle thread in Prospering Grounds.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

the protocol of flying separately doesn't actually go into effect until Prince George turns 12

Doesn’t matter. It’s still risky, especially with William flying the entire family by helicopter.

 

[Hitman One]

Which means it falls to Prince Andrew, as the next in line, if some freak accident kills all of William's family. Considering everything around him, I'm sure he has privately been forced to renounce his rights to succeed on the throne and it has just never been publicly stated because it would imply guilt. Which means the throne would probably go to Princess Beatrice unless renunciation of rights extends to Andrew's descendents, so it would go to Edward.

Also, as far as I am aware the person in the line of succession has to renounce rights to the throne, but this is all shaky considering the only modern renunciation is Edward VIII's abdication.

Succession to the throne is governed by Act of Parliament so there would be no way of doing so on the sly.

Any change to the recognised line would require an Act to give effect to it, for example Edward VIII's instrument of abdication only had legal effect upon the passing of His Majesty's Declaration of Abdication Act 1936. This resulted in the constitutional quirk of Edward remaining King until he had given royal assent to the Act permitting his own abdication.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

They better get rid of Harry's line like it's yesterday, bc I'm not up to a King Harold saga with a Mad Queen behind him.

If something happens, God forbids, I'd rather have Queen Beatrice.

William has zero incentive to make life easier for Harry after he has habitually deceived and lied about him and his wife, put their family in increased danger with the racism claims, and co-signed all of Meghan’s outright lies and bullshit.

He won’t even meet or speak with Harry, knowing that anything that is said will be sold to the highest bidder.

I wonder how mad William is that not only Harold act likes this while using his mom's death as an excuse, but also acting like the worse of her. IICR, William didn't like when she gave that infamous interview.

And it just he quite hard for him to know the onlt way to save his brother is through a divorce, knowing how badly that affected him and Harry when they were kids.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

I wonder how mad William is that not only Harold act likes this while using his mom's death as an excuse, but also acting like the worse of her.

Not to mention Harry keeps invoking his mother while committing these acts of betrayal. “I am my mother’s son” is his constant refrain. I’d love to slug the guy for that and it’s not even my mother.

IICR, William didn't like when she gave that infamous interview.

He was devastated and she was going to let his Eton headmaster break the news to William. To the headmaster’s credit, he pushed back and insisted she at least have the guts to tell him. She was very dismissive of William’s feelings about it.

And it just he quite hard for him to know the onlt way to save his brother is through a divorce, knowing how badly that affected him and Harry when they were kids.

Even if Harry divorced her and disavowed everything he said since he met her, William (quite rightly) still wouldn’t trust him. They’re dunzo.

It’s a real shame, because at least George and Charlotte have memories of their fun uncle. Archie and Lili have zero cousins to bond with, since both of their parents are estranged from 99% of their respective families.

I always thought it was very magnanimous of Eugenie to stay close to Harry and visit him and Meghan in California, considering that Meghan insisted on stealing the spotlight at Eugenie’s wedding by showing up in an obvious maternity dress (that made her look far more pregnant than she was) and announcing her pregnancy. Meggot is just a stone cold cunt, it’s not remotely nuanced.

 

[BongoMongo]

I really, really hope Charles dies and that his condition is more serious than is being reported.

At best he has a fetish for Muslims, at worst he's converted on the sly.

Also his mum was clear, Camilla should be queen consort not queen and he's defied that. The biggest issue with the jug-eared cunt,and the biggest difference between him and his mum is, she saw being Monarch as her duty, he sees it as his birthright.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

He was devastated and she was going to let his Eton headmaster break the news to William. To the headmaster’s credit, he pushed back and insisted she at least have the guts to tell him. She was very dismissive of William’s feelings about it.

The Bashir interview?
William was telling her not to do it, he didn't think Bashir was a good person.

Years later, we find out Bashir lied to Diana saying her security was reporting back to Charles on her personal life? It would be hard for me to not let that guy have his own tunnel crash.

 

[Corpun]

I really, really hope Charles dies and that his condition is more serious than is being reported.

At best he has a fetish for Muslims, at worst he's converted on the sly.

Also his mum was clear, Camilla should be queen consort not queen and he's defied that. The biggest issue with the jug-eared cunt,and the biggest difference between him and his mum is, she saw being Monarch as her duty, he sees it as his birthright.

Camilla is queen consort.

Elizabeth II was queen regnant as in she was the one on the actual throne, the same way Phillip was Consort to Elizabeth II. Why wasn't he King consort or even Prince consort like Albert was to Victoria? The Bongs are fucking weird with their titles.

 

[duckling]

Meghan Markle's thread that we discussed a few pages back has graduated out of the prospering grounds into the beauty parlor. If you want to come join a bunch of women with personality disorders making fun of a famous woman with personality disorders, this is the thread for you. If that sounds fucking horrible you remain safe here, except I sent them all a link to this thread.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/meghan-markle-rachel-meghan-markle-meghan-duchess-of-sussex-meghan-sussex-the-alliterate-one.214160

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Camilla is queen consort.

Elizabeth II was queen regnant as in she was the one on the actual throne, the same way Phillip was Consort to Elizabeth II. Why wasn't he King consort or even Prince consort like Albert was to Victoria? The Bongs are fucking weird with their titles.

I'm sure Phillip was Prince Consort as was Albert. Their laws say men can't have a higher rank as the Queen regnant, so that's consistent. Camila is Queen Consort, Albert and Phillip were Prince Consort both.

 

[Sean Andalou]

Prince Harry's demand for 'Netflix camera crew' caused charity to lose out​

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2034426/prince-harry-sentebale-charity-latest-netflix

Prince Harry reportedly caused the Sentebale charity he co-founded to miss out on a venue for an event by a demand to bring his Netflix camera crew, the chairman of the charity has claimed just days after the Duke of Sussex, 40, stepped down from the charity. In an interview with Sky News that aired this morning, Dr Sophie Chandauka said an opportunity for Sentebale to do a charity Polo Challenge in Miami was in turmoil when Harry insisted on bringing his Netflix camera crew along. ...

Betcha his wife was really the one who insisted.

 

[close]

I thought he it once an the Queen, peace be upon her, reamed him out, but you stay he still does it?

What the fuck are you saying, you blithering retard?