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You're saying that I have no morals while excusing the active murder of American citizens and attacks on American ships that are happening right now because "America set a bad example".

Apparently not wanting to have your countrymen killed by inbred third worlders is immoral
If we're going to play Jewish tricks, you're excusing the muder of Americans and attacks on American ships by Israel.

That's a false equivalence but I appreciate you trying. Only thing worse than Iran is Israel. More war comes from that state than anywhere else in the region
 
The real numbers are much, much lower. For Japan it's closer to 3%. But trade barriers are also much more more advanced of course, and aren't always that easy to calculate. Which might be one reason why the Trump administration has only used trade deficits to calculate these "tariffs" or cheating as Trump called it. You can read about it here:

Of course trade deficits numbers aren't really giving the full situation either, but above all you can't boil it down to "cheating". F.ex it makes complete sense that you have a trade deficit with Vietnam as a rich country people will afford to buy things manufactured there but less so the other way around. It will also hide some numbers here as it's not unlikely to be an American owned company that produced the thing, but in Vietnam.

Now if you want to manufacture all the clothes in and shoes etc in the US instead that's fair, but that obviously means that you can't have the super cheap workers that agrees to work in shit any longer.
So your in favor of slave labor is what I’m getting from this? Why are you democrats so into having slaves? I want anything and everything that can be made in this country, made in this country and the people making those products to be paid a good wage so they can live good lives.

Even if Trump is lying out of his ass, it doesn’t change the fact that these allies of ours and the country that we get everything from, China, are still tariffing us and we weren’t. We were getting fucked regardless of if it was more or less, so nothing about what Trump is doing seems like a negative, sorry. But hey I appreciate you having a conversation with me and hope you take the slave comment as the joke it is.
 
So your in favor of slave labor is what I’m getting from this? Why are you democrats so into having slaves? I want anything and everything that can be made in this country, made in this country and the people making those products to be paid a good wage so they can live good lives.

Even if Trump is lying out of his ass, it doesn’t change the fact that these allies of ours and the country that we get everything from, China, are still tariffing us and we weren’t. We were getting fucked regardless of if it was more or less, so nothing about what Trump is doing seems like a negative, sorry. But hey I appreciate you having a conversation with me and hope you take the slave comment as the joke it is.
Slavery is what enables the laptop caste.
 
I hope the EU completely dissolves.
I would laugh if Trump causes Nazi Germany 2 to collapse by accident.

From what I've read it's more like 9 months to 2 years
STILL TOO FUCKING LONG

construction of the Empire State Building began on March 17, 1930. Construction was completed in a record-breaking 1 year and 45 days.
There is no excuse why we can't built a factory in under a year.
 
I would laugh if Trump causes Nazi Germany 2 to collapse by accident.
Hey, nobody thought Canada literally collapsing at the seams would happen. We all had this facade that Canada had a strong economy. The fact the mere mention of reciprocal tariffs would cause the Prime Minister to instantly resign in the wake of a potential national collapse should tell you all you need to know about the Western economy.
 
Or, ya know, people don't want to pay 35% more for groceries because the obese, elderly, senile conman who you want to have sex with because Fox News and Russian botfarm slop on social media told you ORANGE MAN GUD and you mindlessly believed it has no idea how tariffs work.
Haven't prices gone up for the past decade, regardless whose in power? Blame Trump, twice, but also blame Biden and Obama twice and bush twice.
 
Slavery is what enables the laptop caste.
It’s depressing actually knowing how the shit we all use is made. I honestly would gladly pay more for items if I knew those people weren’t being treated like shit. Not to sound like a bleeding heart faggot but seriously so many of these goods make so much money, how is it not possible that they couldn’t be made in more worker friendly ways. But than you remember that China doesn’t care about human lives.
 
should tell you all you need to know about the Western economy.
That America is so wealthy we can prop up the entire fucking planet for 4 generations with no return and still live better than the rest of the pissant shitholes that claim we are "allies" and "trading partners"?
 
The current trend seems to be "the politics everyone has called me insane for having my entire life are now mainstream and what's happening", so don't worry bro - it's happening.
Its always been mainstream. The jewish suppression field has been temporarily disrupted.
 
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If we're going to play Jewish tricks, you're excusing the muder of Americans and attacks on American ships by Israel.
Israel apologized and paid reparations for the USS Liberty. The same happened with the USS Stark when Iraq hit it. Both Iraq and Israel took action to attempt to repair the damage and make amends.

Your retarded ass is comparing the active murder of American civilians and attacks on America ships by proxy groups of a country who refers to America as the Great Satan to an accident 58 years ago where Israel immediately apologized and paid reparations.

Iran has killed so many Americans through Hamas. They killed 3 American soldiers through their Iraqi militias. They are firing missiles at American ships through the Houthi. That's all fine and acceptable to you?
 
That America is so wealthy we can prop up the entire fucking planet for 4 generations with no return and still live better than the rest of the pissant shitholes that claim we are "allies" and "trading
If this was a Civ game, the players would be crying that America is broken. Even the specific anti western hard counter got destroyed by an American great person spawn.
 
That America is so wealthy we can prop up the entire fucking planet for 4 generations with no return and still live better than the rest of the pissant shitholes that claim we are "allies" and "trading partners"?
Boggles the mind how people still think we have to focus on caring about how other countries are treated more than this country. I have my problems with America but I’ve never wanted anything but the best for us and I’m at the point where I think it would be better if we were just isolated from the rest of the world.

Let them deal with their own issues, I mean Europeans shit on us every fucking day, talking about how fat and stupid we all are, while expecting us to literally die defending them. America is in a toxic relationship with the rest of the world and I think it’s time it ended…. Or we conquer the rest of world and put them under our heel like the dogs they are… idk just spit balling ideas.
 
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More on trade barriers:
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Ford is lowering their prices:
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Even Geraldo Rivera knows that other countries are ripping us off:
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JD Vance on ‘Liberation Day’ Tariffs: ‘First Time’ in Decades ‘We Have an American President Saying No More’ to U.S. Being World’s ‘Piggy Bank’​

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by Matthew Boyle
2 Apr 2025

WASHINGTON — Vice President JD Vance told Breitbart News exclusively on Wednesday evening that for the “first time in probably 40 years,” the United States has a president in President Donald Trump who is reversing the trend of the U.S. serving as a “piggy bank” for the rest of the world.

“So for 40 years, America has been the piggy bank of the world,” Vance said when asked about the importance of the president’s announcement on Wednesday. “We absorb all of the ridiculous trade practices and economic practices of friend and foe alike. For the first time in probably 40 years, we have an American president who’s saying, ‘No more,’ that it’s not going to work, that he’s not going to allow America to be taken advantage of anymore. This decision is going to cause incredible benefits for American workers. You’ve already seen a number of American manufacturers and a number of foreign manufacturers who are saying they’re going to build or expand plants in America. That means more workers with good middle-class jobs. That means more self-sufficiency in the United States of America. Again, it can’t happen unless you have a president who fights back against these ridiculous trade practices. Finally, we have a president who’s doing exactly that.”

Vance’s interview with Breitbart News came as President Trump, in a Rose Garden event at the White House on Wednesday, unveiled wide-scale reciprocal tariffs on every country worldwide. Other countries have been charging the United States exorbitant prices to ship U.S. goods into their markets, and the U.S. has not responded in kind. Trump held up a chart, which was later released by the White House, showing the country-by-country percentage breakdown for what those countries charge the U.S. and what the U.S. will now charge them to export their goods into American markets.

Interestingly, many supporters of globalization and the fallacy of “free trade” regularly criticize Trump and other economic nationalists like Vance who support using tariffs to level the playing field for American workers. One such person is Trump’s former Vice President Mike Pence, who criticized the tariffs after the president announced them late on Wednesday. So, Vance sticking up for Trump and this vision is a clear contrast to that previous governing partner from Trump’s first term. Interestingly, though, these critics like Pence and others regularly do not say anything about other countries putting exorbitant tariffs on U.S. exports into their economies — they only criticize the United States when the Americans respond. Asked about this inconsistency from tariff critics and whether it represents hypocrisy, Vance told Breitbart News it does.

“Yeah, so it’s funny. You have countries who threaten to retaliate against President Trump standing up for American workers,” Vance said when asked to respond to the critics. “And my response is, well, if tariffs are so terrible, then isn’t them raising their tariffs good for us? Because these people always say that any tariffs are bad. Well, all these other countries have applied tariffs to the United States and non-tariff barriers to the United States for a generation. If it was so terrible, why do these countries keep on doing it? If it’s so terrible, why are these countries calling us, lobbying us, begging us not to do this thing? It just doesn’t make any sense. What we know from experience is that a lot of countries have gotten rich by using the United States as a piggy bank. We know that President Trump stopping this makes these countries nervous, and the reason it makes them nervous is because they know what common sense tells us, which is that when they impose tariffs on us, it’s bad for American workers, and when we fight back, it’s good for American workers.”

Beyond this broad trade reset from the president on Wednesday, Trump is also seeking to use trade and the broader economic might of the United States as a diplomatic and geopolitical tool. Trump has signed agreements with India’s Narendra Modi and others to support the so-called India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC), and in his first term, of course, pushed the Abraham Accords to get Arab nations to normalize relations with Israel. IMEC is seen as the first true U.S.-led counter to the Chinese Communist Party-backed (CCP) Belt and Road Initiative, which Beijing has used to force less fortunate nations into debt to spread the influence of the People’s Republic of China. Asked about the president’s use of trade and the economic strength of the United States as a geopolitical diplomatic tool to further American interests worldwide, Vance said this is “nationalism” on display for the world.

“Yeah, in a word, it’s nationalism,” Vance told Breitbart News.” In our foreign policy and our economic policy, we have a president who’s going to put the interests of Americans first and that means in our economic policy, we’re going to fight back against ridiculous trade practices. In our foreign policy, we’re going to stop starting stupid wars. But we’re also going to ensure that America’s enemies respect America’s national interests and that means we need access to critical resources. That means that we need our allies and ourselves to have missile security, to have national security, to make our own weapons if God forbid a war would start. And so, these things are often connected. Economic security is connected to national security because, if God forbid, we had to go to war, we want our troops to go to war with the best equipment and equipment that’s made in the United States of America. The president mentioned this in his remarks today: that we’re in a situation where if we went to war against a country that made our pharmaceuticals, our kids wouldn’t have access to antibiotics. So this basic understanding of President Trump’s, which I think is very much common sense and I think most Americans get, is that we need to have more self-sufficiency. We need to make more of our own stuff. We need a foreign policy that puts the interest of our citizens first, and we need an economic policy that does the same.”

More from Vance’s latest exclusive interview with Breitbart News is forthcoming.

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