William James Mitchell vs. Twin Galaxies LLC, Jeff Harrist & Jeremy Young & donkeykongforum.com, Benjamin Q Smith

[FILTH Tourist]

Different pictures that are years apart, the photo of him with his wife and iPad baby is from a 2022 twitter post, showing that he bought his house. The listing on the real estate website Domain is on 4.4.2024.

Two years is a pretty quick turn around on buying and selling a house. Did he ever give a stated reason as to why?

 

[Candle with Kindling]

If only the case had been about that. At least he could have made a solid case to defend that assertion, by using plenty of documented evidence and discussions about the technical side of Arcade vs. Emulation.

For this case he had literally "but Billy is a bad person, so my lies about him did not actually harm him".
Which is a retarded defense for a 5000$ case and utter hubris in a 500000$ case.

Thats kind of the thing isn't it? " Well Billy cheated at Donkey Kong so therefore him harassing apollo to suicide doesn't harm him that much more" is probably the most retarded argument you could make. No wonder the judge dunked on Karl in the judgement with the whole "karls lance is broken" thing

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

RWhiteGoose won. Billy won. Karl lost. Karl homeress. DarkViperAU mauled by cougars while on mission. Total chud victory.

 

[urr13 account]

Maybe Mitchell Derangement Syndrome is an actual thing.

Karl's "The world needs Billy to lose" gives extreme chuck energy.

Karl Jobst also apparently broke down during his cross examination, just replace "He defecated through a sunroof!" with "HE CHEATED AT DONKEY KONG!"

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

Two years is a pretty quick turn around on buying and selling a house. Did he ever give a stated reason as to why?

Might have just been because the value went way up.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Thats kind of the thing isn't it? " Well Billy cheated at Donkey Kong so therefore him harassing apollo to suicide doesn't harm him that much more" is probably the most retarded argument you could make. No wonder the judge dunked on Karl in the judgement with the whole "karls lance is broken" thing

Also, is the cheating accusation really THAT big of a deal in the first place? Outside unearned bragging rights, did Billy's cheating result in him earning any material/monetary prizes?

 

[Same Shit Different Ass]

"Mitchell, look, I can explain"

 

[Jay2U]

Might have just been because the value went way up.

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Selling your house just because it went up is retarded because all the other houses also went up by the same amount. The only way to profit from this is to buy a house further out of the city.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Selling your house just because it went up is retarded because all the other houses also went up by the same amount. The only way to profit from this is to buy a house further out of the city.

That totally isn't out of the question, he works from home, and he mentioned that he was the sole breadwinner for his family. So selling and moving farther out isn't that bad of a plan.

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

The only way to profit from this is to buy a house further out of the city.

I think that's a sensible choice for someone who doesn't need to drive to work every day. Whatever it is he settled on, it looks like he's got 800K ready for Billy.

 

[Berrakh]

but who truly gives a fuck about the sanctity of the Donkey Kong leaderboard THAT much?

Also isn’t this basically settled with Billy being on some ghetto leaderboard?

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

Also, is the cheating accusation really THAT big of a deal in the first place? Outside unearned bragging rights, did Billy's cheating result in him earning any material/monetary prizes?

For Billy they are, which is why he has be litigating the accusations against him for years.
If he is ever found to have cheated by a court it would harm the image as this crack Arcade legend he has built up over decades
For me its irrelevant who got what highscore at an arcade game, I never went to an Arcade, I will never go to an Arcade and I do not give a shit who has what highscore in what autistic any% category on a website only frequented by autistic faggots who play the same game for 45 years.

This entire feud is only interesting because it has gone on for so long and a clear antagonist and litigious asshole has been identified and propped up by a multitude of YouTube channels over the years, and because Billy kept going after people for those statements. The DRAMA is what makes it interesting, not the actual disputed content.


In other news:

Ersatz_Cat is also still coping over there on PerfectPacman (Archive) that people are retarded for not understanding what the lawsuit was about and defending that Karl never really explained it to anyone because "talking about an ongoing lawsuit is stupid". (Then why did Karl produce more potentially defamatory content about Billy and behaved in ways the judge found to further aggravate the reputational harm, but was not able to explain in clear text to his viewers what his lawsuit was actually about? Weird omission.)

I admit that I should have understood what the lawsuit was REALLY about, after all I read all his summaries and followed the case loosely via Youtube videos.
But I read those summaries late at night and more skimmed it than read-read them. I was more interested in the summarizing opinion of how it was going, since we had been told so many times in Youtube videos that winning against Billy would be easy because he is a cheater.

So excuse me for not understanding that the entire case hinged on the accusation that Billy drove Apollo Legend to suicide by demanding a large monetary settlement, which weirdly enough is the one fucking thing Karl did not defend himself for.

Ersatz_Cat also brings up the point again that Karl's lawyer bungled the case. According to his previous summary I understand this as the lawyer not making the correct pleading, excluding a defense Karl could have otherwise used, which was now excluded. I apologize again for remaining sceptic of this claim in particular now without an Australian law expert looking into this case in particular and explaining how and why this is correct, with citations of the law to support it.

The judge summarily destroyed Karl on every single point, highlighting that he REINSTATED the defamatory statements AFTER being told they were untrue.
How do you defend against making the same false statements twice without any proof after being told by 3 different parties that they were false? Sorry, I am not buying this cope.

When some guy makes a living making Youtube videos, a large share of which are about legal drama, and he manages to correctly report on other legal proceedings, but suddenly fails to be transparent about his own legal case, for which is is conveniently running a GoFundMe for, then the question if Karl might have intentionally mislead by omission is absolutely justified.

 

[Berrakh]

By far the worst thing about Billy is the fact that he looks like Peter Dinklidge if he was full-size, but somehow still retaining the dwarf proportions.

Dinklage’s (cheating) Pixels character (that Adam Sandler movie that broke Moviebob) is obviously based on Billy imo.

 

[Step out of the car sir]

Maybe Mitchell Derangement Syndrome is an actual thing.

The speed runner autistic mindset CANNOT allow for anything to be inaccurate.
Something deep down in them requires cheating, splicing or any methods of cheating to be found out, with the person responsible being kicked from their fringe game community.
I've seen this heavily with super mario 64, not only the effort put into making a fake run but the lengths other speed runners will go to oust them as cheaters.
Billy and to some degree Todd Rodgers are both old school, self-aggrandizing gamers. They absolutely have played and enjoyed video games beyond any record held, but any record they've set is now in the eyes of the most autistic online hobbyists imaginable.

Billy doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks, autistic speed runners care far too much, especially about something inconsequential.
Only thing I can really hate Billy for is asking for a video to be removed, even so, no one should take online speed running bullshit to court, cheater or not.

 

[AnOminous]

Holy shit, thats unbelievably retarded. Like the museums giving back ancient artifacts, just so some sub-human can jigaboo dance around it to worship some shitty deity.

It's not even that. The fucking abos didn't even know that shit was there.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

Also, is the cheating accusation really THAT big of a deal in the first place? Outside unearned bragging rights, did Billy's cheating result in him earning any material/monetary prizes?

Depends entirely on how you categorize it. Billy has certainly benefitted, monetarily and in reputation, from being the supposed #1 Donkey Kong player. He's constantly given speaking gigs and a considerable amount of attention, given what he's famous for.

 

[Nameless One]

Don't let anyone tell you autism is a superpower. Karl and his family are going to drown in legal fees for the rest of his life all because he refused to correct himself when he said Billy made Apollo Legend kill himself.
Literally just had to edit his false claims from his Youtube videos and say "sorry I was misinformed, but he's still a cuck who cheats in children's arcade games lol" and this lawsuit would have almost certainly never happened.
Now his kids life is fucked because he thinks being right is more important than being correct.

A narcissistic piece of shit father who ruined his family's lives over his pride and ego. A tale as old as time! Idk why he needed to prove Billy "killed" some suicidal faggot speedrunner channel guy. This is a prime lolsuit. But why did he murder his own case over this? Was he Apollo Legend's gay autistic lover?

 

[Berrakh]

It's not even that. The fucking abos didn't even know that shit was there.

Sentence: “Our culture believes in family, and good food. And weddings are kind of a big deal.”

Translation: “your rights, your aspirations, they both end where our feelings begin.”

WASPs basically saved humanity from the Malthusian trap just by saying no to that wholesome chungus mindset.

But with Abos I’m not even sure they rise to the level I’m mocking.

 

[AnOminous]

So Karl's only defense was that being accused of cheating is worse than being accused of murder. Is the speedtron community really that retarded to think people outside their community sees it that way?

The judge specifically called this out and seemed bewildered at this choice of defense.

I listened to this expecting a loljudge delivering a lolstralian joke of an opinion but it was actually well reasoned and included a lot of facts Karl had hidden for years.

It should have been a dead giveaway when this jackass was providing no actual dox. It's another fucking Rekieta type lesson, just because you hate the guy someone's attacking doesn't mean the other guy isn't a complete asshole himself.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

The judge specifically called this out and seemed bewildered at this choice of defense.

There is a claim by Ersatz_Cats (owner of PerfectPacman.com) that Karl's lawyer fucked up the case, which excluded a legit defense, in particular he claims that Karl could not bring in evidence why he believed what he said to be true at the time.

I think this is particularly interesting because if good-faith evidence exists for Karl to have believed the accusations to be true at the time of making them and re-uploading the video, making the statements for a second time, then that could have changed the outcome of the case considerably. I wish we had some Australian law experts here on KF who could explain if this could be true and what the legal consequences would be. Obviously Karl cannot appeal this and use a new defense, even the Australian cannot be retarded enough to allow that, right?