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Party Hat Wurmple said:
You thinking of buying in tomorrow or waiting for next week after anticipating a 2nd crash?

I don't agree. We're already paying out the ass in groceries. All this will do is cause some stability. I don't think we'll see that much change past the next week or two. I don't think prices will go down too much. I think what you'll rather see is a correction on wage fronts and the major expenses such as cars and homes slowly begin to fall. We're using a lot of anticipatory models for these things and people have had a lot of time to make adjustments to handle what's expected to come.
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I am holding cash for a while. I've had this stockpile since early February. I normally don't market time but it was pretty obvious that shit was going to go down. I still have stock index funds as part of my 401k and my entire Roth, too

It's going to cause prices to go up even more. Prices on cars and homes are going to go up way up because a lot of the parts for those things are imported (for example, we get most of our lumber from Canada). Home repair stuff will go up. Car prices will go up because parts are made overseas. Wages will go down because unemployment is increasing.

You guys really have no idea how bad of an idea this shit that Trump is doing. If you really wanted to fix the shit that Trump was saying he wanted to fix, increase corporate tax rates to what they were in the 50s. Then corporations have no incentive to outsource and ship jobs overseas. They have incentive to hire Americans and build factories. The tariffs lead to the first great depression and will likely lead to a recession

I'd say that I would be excited to come gloat in 6 months about how right I was (as I usually am) but instead you retards would be celebrating the fact that we are in a recession because you guys are incapable of ever criticizing your waifu, even if it ends up with you being homeless. It's a really weird phenomenon.
 
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ExsanguinateHorizon said:
Kind of tired hearing people complain only about how the US is going to lose/losing all of the tariff wars. Just like covid, suddenly everyone is an economic expert with precognitive abilities.
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I'm just glad to hear that all these countries are so very worried about HOW these tariffs will hurt.
Since the crying libs say it's going to hurt the USA, it must mean all these countries really ARE our friends and just trying to stage an intervention :heart-full:
 
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I can't stand the revisionist history happening with The Great Depression in the 1930's and Tariffs. The number of shitskin posts I've seen in the last 48 hours about how "Tariffs caused The Great Depression!" that are patently and demonstratively false. Even for someone who thinks this current tact is retarded.

Hoover put those tariffs in AFTER the depression began to staunch the bleed. Not before. What ACUTALLY happened was:

  • 1918 Flu Pandemic
  • 1919-1927 - Massive government spending to stimulate and grow businesses and the economy after the pandemic. Causing an artificially inflated economy and businesses spending money they didn't actually have in equity or value. That was why the 20's were "roaring".
  • 1928- The debt businesses were under began to catch up with them. The economy was as falsely inflated as it could be and they could no longer service the debt. The crash begins.
  • 1930 - Hoover implements the Smoot-Hawley tariffs.
Whats eye opening here, Kiwis. This pattern is repeating.

2020- Pandemic
2021 - Early 2025 Massive government spending to stimulate and grow businesses and the economy after the pandemic. Causing an artificially inflated economy and businesses spending money they don't have in equity or value.

Also, The years before the 1928 crash saw 3 Republican presidents, all of whom were very anti regulation and free market friendly. It didn't help at all, and after the depression, it was a loooong time before we let someone like that run the place again.
 
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XYZpdq Jr. said:
I'm just glad to hear that all these countries are so very worried about HOW these tariffs will hurt.
Since the crying libs say it's going to hurt the USA, it must mean all these countries really ARE our friends and just trying to stage an intervention :heart-full:
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Are you really incapable of figuring out how paying 25% more for everything, with wages staying the same, is going to hurt?

mlanguishi said:
Guy thinks raising corp taxes rates to 90% will make them want to stay in the USA. Get a load of this...
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They will. Instead you think corporations should not have to pay taxes and that your taxes should be raised so that Elon and Apple don't have to pay any taxes. It's okay, we know you're intellectually disabled and worship billionaires like a good little MAGA retard
 
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CaliforniaRaisin said:
I can't stand the revisionist history happening with The Great Depression in the 1930's and Tariffs. The number of shitskin posts I've seen in the last 48 hours about how "Tariffs caused The Great Depression!" that are patently and demonstratively false. Even for someone who thinks this current tact is retarded.

Hoover put those tariffs in AFTER the depression began to staunch the bleed. Not before. What ACUTALLY happened was:

  • 1918 Flu Pandemic
  • 1919-1927 - Massive government spending to stimulate and grow businesses and the economy after the pandemic. Causing an artificially inflated economy and businesses spending money they didn't actually have in equity or value. That was why the 20's were "roaring".
  • 1928- The debt businesses were under began to catch up with them. The economy was as falsely inflated as it could be and they could no longer service the debt. The crash begins.
  • 1930 - Hoover implements the Smoot-Hawley tariffs.
Whats eye opening here, Kiwis. This pattern is repeating.

2020- Pandemic
2021 - 2025 Massive government spending to stimulate and grow businesses and the economy after the pandemic. Causing an artificially inflated economy and businesses spending money they don't have in equity or value.

Also, The years before the 1928 crash saw 3 Republican presidents, all of whom were very anti regulation and free market friendly. It didn't help at all, and after the depression, it was a loooong time before we let someone like that run the place again.
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We should also not forget "overabundance of agricultural goods sent to Europe and the market started drying up in like 1925, causing farm failures"
 
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UCT said:
His like some monster from an urban legend. Don’t say Hulkster 3 times in the bathroom mirror at night or he will come talk to you nonstop about how bad Trump is!!! Spooky!
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Yeah, but then you can kick him in the junk, so it is worth it.
 
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TenMilesWide said:
This is the guy that lectures you about not understanding the economy btw.
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That's rich coming from the guy who thinks that 35% tariffs won't increase prices and that everyone having to pay more for stuff won't hurt them :story:

It seriously works. It worked in the 50s but your constant mindless consuming of Fox News has you convinced that corporations and billionaires are your friend like a good little simpleton
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
They will. Instead you think corporations should not have to pay taxes and that your taxes should be raised so that Elon and Apple don't have to pay any taxes. It's okay, we know you're intellectually disabled and worship billionaires like a good little MAGA retard
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I don't like responding to you, but nice straw man. Explain why corps would want to stay in a place that taxes them nearly totally instead of bailing. In the 50s there wasn't the same globalization that made it so easy.

A big reason that changed was the high corp tax rates you love. But you're just flinging insults and straw man arguments as usual.

ETA pining for the 50s is probably the most basic boomer take imaginable.
 
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CaliforniaRaisin said:
  • 1919-1927 - Massive government spending to stimulate and grow businesses and the economy after the pandemic. Causing an artificially inflated economy and businesses spending money they didn't actually have in equity or value. That was why the 20's were "roaring".
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That "massive government spending" was actually a huge pullback from the war spending of 1917-1918.

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