US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

For a guy who says that shit, you do nothing but whiteknight Trump and other Republicans. Trump is going to cause your groceries to go up 25% in a few months and you're defending it and celebrating it, all because your waifu did it. Trump plans to gut medicaid so that billionaires can get yet another tax cut. Stop it with that shit if you're gonna claim such a thing

Where have I whiteknighted for Trump over the tariffs? Or other republicans - other than Nixon who I think was done dirty, but that's less about politics and more about wider conspiracy theories.
As for health care, that americans don't have an NHS-style system (which used to work before a two decades of incompetence) and systems like holiday and sick pay for workers, countrywide as a standard, shows how well the propaganda from the rich is working.

FWIW, Hulk, I'm not American. If my grocery prices rise, it's because my government are incompetent.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Higher corporate taxes, like tariffs, will be placed on the consumer. Unlike taxes, higher tariffs could stimulate growth in certain markets.

No they won't. If a corporation is paying 90% in taxes, that means each dollar in profit they will only be able to keep a dime. They wouldn't increase prices by 1000% for that. Higher tariffs won't stimulate growth. They never have and they never will. Your waifu has an unhealthy obsession with them and you're only defending them because he suggested it. You mindlessly will believe everything he says like a good little MAGA consoomer.


Anyway, I will let you guys get back to circle jerking yourselves off over how excited you are to pay 35% more for groceries and how crashing the economy is a good thing because the obese, elderly, senile conman who you want to penetrate you is doing it because I got a busy afternoon of work meetings

 

[mlanguishi]

Theres a reason why so many major companies have their formal corporate headquarters in Ireland

One of the things Biden did was make bank companies virtually tax-free in DE, so they all moved there too. Companies flee high tax blue states all the time. There's no helping someone that can't understand basic cause and effect. We'll see on tariffs.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

All thats great, and let's assume it's true. JohnnyBravo asked you a good question. Why is it ok for the other countries in the world to tariff the USofA but not ok for the USofA to place tarifs on the world?

It's not OK for China to do what it does, but you have to be careful and strategic about it and consider the tradeoffs. Broad tariffs are an extremely regressive form of tax which means the burden will fall heaviest on people with the lowest incomes.

You also need to plan for impact on supply chains, as well as domestic producers increasing their prices because the tariff lets them get away with it by making competitor products artificially more expensive.

As well as what might happen if the tariffed nations start realigning trade with each other and stop buying US exports, or stop using the US dollar as a reserve currency. Remember, the trade deficit is only one piece of the balance of payments.

 

[CyrusHowler]

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What discord server is this. I want to join so I can laugh at them.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Governor of the Colony of Canada is talking

 

[BallisticStylus]

Jesus, just ignore the nigger already and post some actual news for once.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

yeah, big energy!
WOO LEAFS WE GOT THIS YEAH YEAH YEAH

 

[DOUBLE_WHEEL]

Jesus, just ignore the nigger already and post some actual news for once.

If people ignored him we wouldn't get retarded takes like "Raising taxes to 90% will force corporations to stay in the country, just like the 50s!".

 

[Delany's Donkey]

Over the last 20 years or so, I've heard the repeated line, "Social Security will go bankrupt in 8 years", but somehow it's still here and it's still being funded. The fear mongering and retardation over Social Security and Medicaid serves no one. All it does is freak people out (though, then again, that is the goal, isn't it?).

"The ponzi scheme hasn't collapsed yet so that means it'll never collapse! sure inflation is running wild, the national debt is north of 35 trillion, nobody can afford a house, the birthrate is plummeting because a one income household is virtually impossible now and most couple have to each work 40hrs a week to even survive. But as long as those problems come to a head after I'm dead and gone and my kids have to deal with it instead, who cares?"

 

[mooted]

You know I have yet to see a real good answer to this question by people against the tariffs. Why is it ok for every other country to tariff us but its bad for us to tariff them? Why is it ok for Japan to push more local products and goods to be sold over another countries, but we have to continue to buy medicine from fucking China of all places. Please I need a real, honest, answer with facts and someone holding life sized charts that isn't just regurgitated sound bites from the some commie youtuber or something like that.

You saw the number that Trump was showing in his chart yesterday?
That number saying "This country tariff us X amount"?
That x amount is complety fabricated by Trump in the majority of the cases

 

[quaawaa]

The US Trade Representative tweeted 10 unfair trade practices:

In honor of Liberation Day, USTR is spotlighting 10 unfair trade practices faced by American exporters.

1. China's non-tariff measures and high tariffs on U.S. agricultural products, like soybeans, pork, wheat, and corn, have greatly restricted market access for American farmers. Removing these barriers would generate an estimated $6 billion in additional annual exports of these products.
2. The U.S. shrimp industry noted the negative impacts of subsidized low-cost, farm-raised shrimp imports from Brazil, China, Ecuador, India, Thailand, and Vietnam. According to National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries, the total value of U.S. shrimp fishermen's catch fell from $522 million in 2021 to $268 million in 2023—an almost 50% decrease in total value.
3. South Africa heavily restricts U.S. poultry exports through high tariffs, anti-dumping duties, and unjustified animal health restrictions. These barriers have contributed to a 78% decline in U.S. poultry exports to South Africa, from $89 million in 2019 to $19 million in 2024.
4. Egypt’s average applied tariff on agricultural goods is 65.1%, 13 times higher than the United States and one of the highest in the world. In the past, Egypt has raised its applied WTO MFN tariffs on multiple agricultural products, further exacerbating the disadvantages U.S. products face in Egypt as EU products benefit from preferential rates granted under the EU-Egypt Free Trade Agreement.
5. The annual cost to the U.S. economy of counterfeit goods, pirated software, and theft of trade secrets is between $225 billion and $600 billion. In 2023, China was responsible for 84% of the value of counterfeit and pirated goods seized by U.S. CBP, including those transshipped through Hong Kong.
6. Argentina has banned imports of U.S. live cattle since 2002 due to unsubstantiated concerns regarding bovine spongiform encephalopathy. As a result, the United States has a $223 million trade deficit with Argentina in beef and beef products.
7. For years, Brazil has used unjustified animal health concerns to stall granting market access for U.S. pork and pork products. In agricultural goods, the U.S. trade deficit with Brazil has risen steeply in recent years, amounting to $7.0 billion in 2024.
8. Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, and Vietnam restrict or prohibit the importation of remanufactured goods, restricting market access for U.S. exporters while also stifling efforts to promote sustainability by discouraging trade in like-new and resource-efficient products. If these barriers were removed, it is estimated that U.S. exports would increase by at least $18 billion annually.
9. Illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing undermines America’s competitiveness and costs the global seafood industry up to $50 billion per year. China and Mexico have been identified for illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing, with China operating the world’s largest distant water fishing fleet and Mexico facing ongoing challenges with illegal fishing activities and inadequate enforcement of its environmental commitments under USMCA.
10. U.S. automakers face a variety of non-tariff barriers that impede access to the Japanese and Korean automotive markets. Due to these non-reciprocal practices, the U.S. automotive industry loses out on an additional $13.5 billion in annual exports to Japan and access to a larger import market share in Korea.

For additional information on unfair trade practices faced by American exporters, please see the 2025 National Trade Estimate Report. https://ustr.gov/about/policy-offic...-releases-2025-national-trade-estimate-report

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The report is the same book that Trump held up during his speech. It's worth reading as it contains a summary of everything that every country is doing to the US on trade.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Let’s see.
I don’t own any stocks because I can’t afford it, I don’t own property, my truck is as old as me, and I have a stable job I’m not worried about disappearing.
Why should I give a fuck about Wall Street? They made this mess and so long as prices of shit I want and need go down like they have been I’m good and everyone else can go fuck themselves.

 

[George Lucas]

The great tariff experiment begins. But the corporations have to play ball. They won’t. You’ll see the big companies ‘pull back’ their production rather than bring stuff back to America. They will rather hold out for four years than try to fix the actual problem.

 

[Verdun_Salient]

I can't stand the revisionist history happening with The Great Depression in the 1930's and Tariffs. The number of shitskin posts I've seen in the last 48 hours about how "Tariffs caused The Great Depression!" that are patently and demonstratively false. Even for someone who thinks this current tact is retarded.

Hoover put those tariffs in AFTER the depression began to staunch the bleed. Not before. What ACUTALLY happened was:

• 1918 Flu Pandemic
• 1919-1927 - Massive government spending to stimulate and grow businesses and the economy after the pandemic. Causing an artificially inflated economy and businesses spending money they didn't actually have in equity or value. That was why the 20's were "roaring".
• 1928- The debt businesses were under began to catch up with them. The economy was as falsely inflated as it could be and they could no longer service the debt. The crash begins.
• 1930 - Hoover implements the Smoot-Hawley tariffs.

Whats eye opening here, Kiwis. This pattern is repeating.

2020- Pandemic
2021 - Early 2025 Massive government spending to stimulate and grow businesses and the economy after the pandemic. Causing an artificially inflated economy and businesses spending money they don't have in equity or value.

Also, The years before the 1928 crash saw 3 Republican presidents, all of whom were very anti regulation and free market friendly. It didn't help at all, and after the depression, it was a loooong time before we let someone like that run the place again.

Your last part is wrong, Hoover absolutely interfered in the economy and made the situation worse.

On a related note, one of the primary reasons the Great Depression lasted so long (till 1946) was because of FDRs idiocy of not allowing the markets to readapt and his own policies

 

[close]

I literally voted for this. I absolutely refuse to be like the boomers who sold out future generations for short term gains. I'm okay with cutting luxuries out of my life if it means my grandkids actually have a future.

Hard times create strong men.

 

[IsaACKRepentance]

I just think it's funny that pretty much every tariff is lower than what the other country charges us. At worst it's equal.

Really gets the noggin joggin that the EU charges us 39% but are losing their fucking minds over 20%.

 

[invisibult plus+]

Let’s see.
I don’t own any stocks because I can’t afford it, I don’t own property, my truck is as old as me, and I have a stable job I’m not worried about disappearing.
Why should I give a fuck about Wall Street? They made this mess and so long as prices of shit I want and need go down like they have been I’m good and everyone else can go fuck themselves.

Because not gambling makes you poor. When you get fucked, it's for the common good. You're supposed to take it and learn to code. When they do, the whole country is at stake because line going up is the true indicator of economic health. It doesn't matter whether or not they made this mess, they think they're important and that's what matters.

 

[mooted]

I just think it's funny that pretty much every tariff is lower than what the other country charges us. At worst it's equal.

Really gets the noggin joggin that the EU charges us 39% but are losing their fucking minds over 20%.

Are you aware that the amount that Trump was showing in the chart was fabricated out of nothing?
Tue EU doesn't charge the US 39%, it just doesnt.


"The EU does not impose a 39% tariff on US goods
Available evidence shows that the real EU tariff rate is nowhere near the 39% mark.

The European Commission says it charges an average tariff of just 1% on US products entering the EU market, "considering the actual trade in goods". It adds that the US administration collected approximately €7 billion of tariffs on EU products in 2023 compared to the EU's €3 billion on US goods.

A World Trade Organisation (WTO) estimate puts the average tariff rate on US products entering the EU slightly higher at 4.8%.

In both cases, this is far off the 39% figure quoted by the Trump administration."

source; https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/...ld-trumps-tariffs-on-the-eu-really-reciprocal

 

[Potatoherder]

As well as what might happen if the tariffed nations start realigning trade with each other and stop buying US exports, or stop using the US dollar as a reserve currency. Remember, the trade deficit is only one piece of the balance of payments.

The core issue is they have already done this without us doing anything. The EU exists solely to attack the US as a world super power because europoors egos can't take it. Canada and Mexico spent the last decade cozying up to China before figuring out they will only fuck them.

Do we continue the managed decline or do we try something else? Voters decided to try something else.

Really gets the noggin joggin that the EU charges us 39% but are losing their fucking minds over 20%.

The lack of privilege feels like oppression.