US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[Barleys]

If this were the point, why tariff every EU good and not just their poultry/other items they have relatively high tariffs on?

They stole our industries doing shit like this, time for us to steal some of theirs by tariffing more than they do.

 

[FieldPiece]

An excerpt from the phenomenal manifesto Death Sentences by Dr. Matthew C. Harris:
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People are always afraid of dinosaurs coming back or giant spiders. Penguins larger than people? That scares me.

 

[whotfsaidthat]

meanwhile at the mcdonald islands
peace was never an option

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

China's economy is real-estate based so while those look cool it doesn't show true population numbers. There's also plenty of ghost cities in China

China's economy is real-estate based with some ghost cities because they figured that was the best thing to do with the trillions in excess USD pouring in. Better idea than holding the paper anyway.

All I know is that you can't show any pictures of anywhere in the US that has been transformed like that in 25 years. Hell I can show you a three-mile stretch of I-10 at the TX/LA border they've been trying to widen from two lanes to four lanes that's taken longer and still isn't finished.

 

[mooted]

what's the EU tarrif on US poultry?

You just read that on the internet and repeat it like an NPC.

"The European Commission (EC) has responded to US President Donald Trump’s trade tariffs on EU aluminum and steel imports, which came into effect today, by announcing €26 billion (US$28.3 billion) worth of retaliatory measures that include US agricultural products like poultry, beef, and certain seafood."
Its because Trump started with the tariffs.

 

[mooted]

I can literally point to several products the EU tariffs against the U.S for far more than 39%. Just because it's not a blanket tariff doesn't mean they don't do it on certain shit you faggot.

You didnt point "several products", the reason you say that its because you read "POULTRY TARIFFS NOOOO" and will say poultry without reading that the reason are there is because Trump put tariffs back in march.

"The European Commission (EC) has responded to US President Donald Trump’s trade tariffs on EU aluminum and steel imports, which came into effect today, by announcing €26 billion (US$28.3 billion) worth of retaliatory measures that include US agricultural products like poultry, beef, and certain seafood."
Sit down, faggo and suck your orange zionist lover cock.

 

[autistic dog]

Trump already won the trade war. Every country has already admitted they do tariff they are just arguing about how much. Even if they try to march our tariffs no one does the amount of business we do for 1 to 1 or even 2 to 1 tariffs to gain them more. The penguin tariffs were a particular masterstroke because it has everyone treating it like a gotcha. Normal freethinking people's read the article and think "that's all they have to attack him on?"

America is finally the land of the free again!

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

China's economy is real-estate based with some ghost cities because they figured that was the best thing to do with the trillions in excess USD pouring in. Better idea than holding the paper anyway.

All I know is that you can't show any pictures of anywhere in the US that has been transformed like that in 25 years. Hell I can show you a three-mile stretch of I-10 at the TX/LA border they've been trying to widen from two lanes to four lanes that's taken longer and still isn't finished.

they literally build apartments in the middle of nowhere, entire empty cities just for investors. These buildings are made out of tofu dreg and barely stay standing

every apartment is the result of an entire multigenerational family investing together with pooled money and ever since the 2020 real estate crash a significant amount of Chinese families are hundreds of thousands of dollars underwater on their mortgage on a unit in a building made of subpar material that's barely holding together in a remote part of china that no one lives in

 

[duckbutter&toejamsandwich]

People are always afraid of dinosaurs coming back or giant spiders. Penguins larger than people? That scares me.
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As long as I can out waddle the bastards I'm safe.

 

[TarragonRespecter]

cite your shit you inbred faggot. I've literally read the original documents. There's zero evidence of this.

Your sources include "books I've read" so please fuck of with this one-sided reddit sources bullshit. The crew that was there says it was deliberate.

Iran hates the US because of Operation Ajax, the US's support for the Shah, their view of the US as imperialistic, and because of severe sanctions. I know it's hard to understand complex things like this unless your political mommy Candace Owens or your political daddy tucker explains this to you carefully but the Iranian regime has always hated the US. They refer to America as the Great Satan and Israel as the Little Satan.

I don't watch Candace or Tucker so enough strawmanning. They hated us long before that. You seem to think name calling is a big deal but I think every country has called us the great Satan that's not a big enough reason to give a shit about some shithole a world away. We only care cuz Israel cares.

nigger you're the one endorsing the people attacking american soldiers because israel bad

When did I endorse them? Child stalker, you need to stop being so mentally ill. I never endorsed what they do, I just don't give a shit about it like the average American

you stupid nigger, if you openly say that it's fine for Iran to have the goals for hurting soldiers and excuse the deaths of soldiers killed by Iranian funding then you inherently weaken the argument against israel for killing US soldiers. Why is it fine for Iran to kill US soldiers now but then cry about Israel being the real enemy for an incident that happened years ago

Iran is openly hostile and has never worked closely or been an ally or whatever word trickery you wanna play. Israel has. Of course they're going to chant death to America or have goals of beating its rival nations. Everyone on the planet does this.

literally jewish/israel derangement syndrome. you're willing to let radical islamists kill US soldiers just so israel will presumably suffer somehow

Real question: would you be this emotionally invested if I didn't mention Israeli

Your pedophile looking daddy Ian Carroll was lying, the daily wire isn't going bankrupt

Literally who?

ho?

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

As long as I can out waddle the bastards I'm safe.

you can run, but you can't SLIDE

 

[oh no its pipkun]

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now we know how we got here. thay slow decline.

If this were the point, why tariff every EU good and not just their poultry/other items they have relatively high tariffs on?

they don't tarrif poultry because they banned its import. there is no 1:1 tarriff calculation for that. so 39% is fair.

Whose fault was 2008?
The same people still there, that’s who bro fuck ‘em I hope more jump out windows.

and you'll lose your apartment when the bank holding the loan goes under

You just read that on the internet and repeat it like an NPC.

"The European Commission (EC) has responded to US President Donald Trump’s trade tariffs on EU aluminum and steel imports, which came into effect today, by announcing €26 billion (US$28.3 billion) worth of retaliatory measures that include US agricultural products like poultry, beef, and certain seafood."
Its because Trump started with the tariffs.

you didnt even know us poultry can't be exported to the EU. you know nothing.

 

[waffle]

Ammo is pretty easy to sell to a buddy at the range, but you won't get the same price as a retail seller of new/never owned ammo. I'm guessing that's more than 8 percent off what you bought that ammo for, so worse than real estate.

Selling physical gold or silver costs often more than that, in practical terms, because the commercial metals dealers won't give you a fair deal. You can try to sell to a private party that won't screw you over, but that costs time. Then there's the huge safety risk of meeting up with a stranger that knows you're carrying gold coins.

You seem to have a skill issue with selling things.

 

[mooted]

Unfortunately for you, global economic policy is not built on vibes. Go find proof that you're right and come back to deboonk the guy. Also "I'm" has an apostrophe in it, so try reading a book while you're gone.

This entire tariff stuff was built on "vibes", every person (including Trump) saying that "X country has Y amount" is doing it based on vibes.
Unfortunately for you, global economic policy is not built on vibes.


source: https://www.census.gov

 

[northstar747]

Money is an abstraction anyway.

But is it an abstraction a value or a means of exchange?

Money has two very conflicting purposes

A store of a value which means inflation is bad or a means of exchange were it abstracts the value or amount of something in the world.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

tbh I've considered that too about physical gold, it's good as a inflation hedge but kinda shit if society really falls
okay one of those costco little dudes is what, $3k?
go buy a big mac and pay with a three thousand dollar bill, they got change for that right?
now how much better will that go after zombies eat all the jewelers?

I don't have good answers but that has come up as I think about it

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

They hated us long before that.

Iran literally was aligned with the US when the Shah was in power.

I never endorsed what they do, I just don't give a shit about it like the average American

"I don't give a shit about it" when they are using proxies to kill american soldiers?

Iran is openly hostile and has never worked closely or been an ally

you fucking retard, Iran was pro American during the Shah.

Of course they're going to chant death to America

they literally fund hezbollah's drug smuggling into the US and taught militias in Iraq how to build IEDs to kill Americans soldiers.

Real question: would you be this emotionally invested if I didn't mention Israeli

yes because i hate seeing sad excuses of people like you excuse American soldiers being attacked by a hostile nation that actively is seeking to damage the US. It's the most cucked thing possible.

Literally who?

that's the guy who claimed the daily wire was going bankrupt

 

[quaawaa]

How hard is to understand the Penguin Land had tariffs placed on it because Trump enacted a 10% minimum tariff on every country, with additional tariffs proportional to their trade surplus with the United States? Penguin Land is an official country, therefore it has tariffs placed on it.

It’s the dumbest “gotcha”.

 

[mooted]

machinery is not a necessity for you, and again, already has evidence that production is opening back up. see above with the reference to paper mills. companies will sometimes need to pay more for a part. that is how trade works.

computer parts are absolutely not a necessity, and again, this is ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED. there are factories opening in the US, spurred on by tariffs.

"Machinery is not a necessity for you"
oh god

 

[mlanguishi]

I don't have good answers but that has come up as I think about it

People have been arguing about this money and wealth stuff since before The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith. It seems unsolvable, since indeed money being a fungible means of exchange and the store of value are in conflict. I think that's what China and North Korea try to do, have 'peoples money' for inside consumer stuff and a state system for outside, but that doesn't work either,

Figure it out and you'll be the richest nobel prize winner ever.