US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I don't want to sound like I'm bragging*, but my stocks are doing just fine.

If anybody you know is complaining about the state of the stock market, the only proper response is to put a shit-eating smirk on your face and tell them, in the most condescending & matter-of-fact tone possible, that they should've diversified their portfolio more.

*: I'm bragging.
My portfolio is down, but I won't be seeing that money for atleast a decade, probably many decades. The stock market matters for sure, but unless you're living off your holdings and rely on consistent growth or are a day-trader I don't understand throwing a shitfit over a dip. Theyre all but inevitable to happen sometime or another. I'm more concerned about my stocks simply ceasing to exist via societal collapse later this century than a dip for a few weeks, months or a year.
 
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RIP Grape-kun, a true Bird of Culture and an example to us all of fidelity to our waifus.
Stop watching anime. Anime is gateway porn and porn is bad for you.

And if it was a literal penguin island how did it still manage any trade with America?
"Hmmmm... hey Santiago?"
"Yes brother Miguel, what is it?"
"This tariff we pay. What if we write down in box that says where our merchandise comes from this island where there is no tariff?"
"I don't follow Miguel. The product is coming from here!"
"We just tell the dumb Americans it doesn't!"
"GENIUS!"
 
A big part of poos shitty culture and values is the caste system which also interferes with morality.
IIRC the caste system wasn't quite so rigid (it used to be possible to move between castes) until the British decided it would help colonial administration to ossify it.
 
To play devil's advocate, what's the point of planting a tree you're never going to sit under if your kids just going to move out of state? Why bother?
The children and the trees are a metaphor for improving the world for the next generation. In this scenario "moving out" would entail leaving the planet and I don't think they're gonna do that.
 
Alright then, so if the Tariffs were primarily on Asian countries that are responsible for flooding the US with shitty, but excessively cheap goods would you be in favor of the policy?

Also, tariffs are a way to give an advantage to US companies. Items that previously cost too much to make because the market was flooded with stuff so cheap it would be impossible to compete will suddenly see a way to make money. If not subsidies, what other way would you want Trump to give American companies advantages? Lower taxes and deregulating seems like a great start.
It depends on the country and the goods, China for example needed the tariffs, so I agree with that.
The japanese ones imo are not a good idea.

I see it this way.
The same way manufacturing moved out of the US because its cheaper to do it in Asia, then the uno card can be played and MUST BE PLAYED not only by the US but all the west.
Lowering taxes and deregulating are great, and it must be done, but there are also 2 other things:
-Talk to the big companies doing stuff in Asia, both americans and foreign, and tell them that if they move certain % of their production to the US, they can have special treatment (believe it or not, China kinda did it years ago), im talking like 15 years paying like 3 or 5% tax, and the first 3 like 0, tell them that a huge amount of regulation than they have in Asia are not in the US, and also residency to the top scientists, like the 1% of the best people they have, so the know how can be literally copied (yes, lmao, China did similar with trains but without residency), Trump can go crazy promising stuff but...
-The second point is confidence and trust, markets need trust, havin HUGE investments knowing that some day some
raw materials that are not in the US can have tariffs and then no tariffs and then new tariffs can fuck investments, and also sales.

Subsidies didnt work for Biden because well... there is a big hole in budget, that just grow and grow.
Incentives are the reason manufacturing left the west, incentives are the way to bring them back (it takes time, obviously)
 
The children and the trees are a metaphor for improving the world for the next generation. In this scenario "moving out" would entail leaving the planet and I don't think they're gonna do that.
No, it's not a metaphor. I'm talking about my literal home and giant trees in my yard that gives me grief because I haven't figured out how to get grass to stay alive there. If our culture encourages gypsy mindsets of flowing from one town to another without ever laying down roots you will NEVER be able to recreate the chain of inheritance that creates great civilizations.

On a very real level, children (and retiring parents) need to be encouraged to STAY where their home is instead of fucking off because it's more convenient or what they've inherited will be left to rot instead of being maintained and built upon.
 
Converse have sucked since they went from the soft rubber sole to the one that was like skateboard wheel material about 15 years ago. I haven't bought a pair since.
I mean, they've always kinda sucked, but the "Chuck '70" was "supposed" to be made like they were in the '70s when they were an athletic shoe, with thicker soles and more padding in the insole. And for that, Nike (who owns Converse USA) charges through the nose for them (along with the shitty "regular" chucks).

I lowkey hope that whatever bullshit tariff that Nike is ducking by putting felt on the bottom (a practice that Converse started LONG before Nike bought them, btw) gets adjusted so there is no "discount" for importing slippers over shoes, just to get the bullshit felt off the bottom of Chucks.
 
It depends on the country and the goods, China for example needed the tariffs, so I agree with that.
The japanese ones imo are not a good idea.

I see it this way.
The same way manufacturing moved out of the US because its cheaper to do it in Asia, then the uno card can be played and MUST BE PLAYED not only by the US but all the west.
Lowering taxes and deregulating are great, and it must be done, but there are also 2 other things:
-Talk to the big companies doing stuff in Asia, both americans and foreign, and tell them that if they move certain % of their production to the US, they can have special treatment (believe it or not, China kinda did it years ago), im talking like 15 years paying like 3 or 5% tax, and the first 3 like 0, tell them that a huge amount of regulation than they have in Asia are not in the US, and also residency to the top scientists, like the 1% of the best people they have, so the know how can be literally copied (yes, lmao, China did similar with trains but without residency), Trump can go crazy promising stuff but...
-The second point is confidence and trust, markets need trust, havin HUGE investments knowing that some day some
raw materials that are not in the US can have tariffs and then no tariffs and then new tariffs can fuck investments, and also sales.

Subsidies didnt work for Biden because well... there is a big hole in budget, that just grow and grow.
Incentives are the reason manufacturing left the west, incentives are the way to bring them back (it takes time, obviously)
Okay I'm started to get annoyed with your newfag mid takes. What the fuck can the American government give as an incentive? Tax credits. That's it. Why the fuck would a company move to the United States and subject itself not only to the IRS worldwide (because that's what the U.S. taxes: worldwide income), but also to far-reaching and invasive state tax reporting and state labor laws, something the Federal government has no control over?

'Hurr durr I don't like subsidies' wtf do you think tax credits are retard? They're effective subsidies. The American government can't pay for either, and they can't do anything about state laws because they don't have authority over how states regulate business or collect taxes.
 
A big part of poos shitty culture and values is the caste system which also interferes with morality.
Yeah, if you didn't deserve to be treated like shit, you wouldn't have been born a dalit. In the end, the systems the Aryans forced on them didn't save them from being absorbed through intermarriage, but it's like playing telephone. I also think it's funny, but if you look at pictures of Indian Christians, they all actually look like people with souls compared to the rest of India. Not sure if it's ethnic, since they're mostly in Kerala, or Hinduism just makes for soulless shit golems. The St. Thomas Christians have a weird fixation with taking the name George though, I mean, it's good name and all, but there's other saints.
 
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